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3 yes/no questions on Form 1120-F Corporate AMT section that I'm struggling to answer

I'm completely lost on how to fill out some yes/no questions on Form 1120-F regarding the Corporate Alternative Minimum Tax. I've been staring at these questions for hours and have no idea what they mean: 1. Corporate Alternative Minimum Tax: Was the corporation an applicable corporation under section 59(k)(1) in any prior tax year? I don't understand what "applicable corporation" means in this context or what section 59(k)(1) is referring to. 2. Is the corporation an applicable corporation under section 59(k)(1) in the current tax year because the corporation was an applicable corporation in the prior tax year? 3. Does the corporation meet the requirements of the safe harbor method as provided under section 59(k)(3)(A) for the current tax year? We're a mid-sized foreign company with US operations filing 1120-F for the first time. Can anyone help explain what these questions are asking in plain English? My background is in operations, not tax, and our accountant is on medical leave.

Jamal Edwards

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These questions relate to the Corporate Alternative Minimum Tax (CAMT) that was introduced in the Inflation Reduction Act. It applies to large corporations with over $1 billion in average annual adjusted financial statement income. Question 1 is asking if your corporation was considered an "applicable corporation" (meaning a very large corporation subject to CAMT) in any previous tax year. Question 2 is asking if your corporation is an applicable corporation this year simply because it was one last year (there's a rule that once you're in, you typically stay in). Question 3 is asking if your corporation qualifies for a safe harbor exception that would exempt it from being an applicable corporation. If you're a mid-sized company filing 1120-F for the first time, and you don't have over $1 billion in average annual adjusted financial statement income, your answers are likely all "No." But it would be best to confirm with a tax professional familiar with your specific situation.

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ThunderBolt7

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Thanks for explaining! We definitely don't have anywhere near $1 billion in income, so I'm guessing all answers should be "No." Just to confirm, this minimum tax only applies to massive corporations, right? I was worried it might be something all foreign corporations have to pay.

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Jamal Edwards

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Yes, the Corporate Alternative Minimum Tax only applies to very large corporations with over $1 billion in average annual adjusted financial statement income. It's not something that applies to all foreign corporations filing Form 1120-F. The CAMT was designed specifically to ensure that the largest corporations pay at least some minimum amount of tax. For a mid-sized company like yours, you should be able to confidently answer "No" to these questions.

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NightOwl42

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Just to add some clarity - I work for a company that files 1120-F regularly. The "applicable corporation" term in section 59(k)(1) specifically refers to corporations that have average annual adjusted financial statement income exceeding $1 billion over a 3-year period. If you've never had income anywhere near that level, you can confidently answer "No" to all three questions. The Corporate AMT is really only targeting the largest multinational corporations. For most foreign companies with operations in the US, these questions aren't relevant, but unfortunately everyone filing 1120-F has to answer them.

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Does this billion-dollar threshold apply differently to foreign companies? Like if our global revenue is over $1B but US operations are small?

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NightOwl42

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Good question - there's a different threshold for foreign companies. If your corporation is a foreign-parented multinational group, the global revenue threshold is still $1 billion, but you also need at least $100 million in US income for the CAMT to apply. So if your global operations exceed $1 billion but your US income is under $100 million, you would still answer "No" to these questions on Form 1120-F. This two-part test was designed specifically to focus on large foreign companies with substantial US operations.

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Dmitry Ivanov

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Has anyone found a good source that explains the "safe harbor method" mentioned in question 3? What exactly does section 59(k)(3)(A) require?

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Ava Thompson

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The safe harbor provision basically lets a corporation avoid being classified as an "applicable corporation" even if it was previously over the threshold. If your adjusted financial statement income falls below the $1 billion threshold for a specified period (usually 2 consecutive years with some exceptions), you can exit applicable corporation status. For most small to mid-sized businesses, this is irrelevant since you never met the threshold in the first place.

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Dmitry Ivanov

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Thanks for explaining! That makes sense - it's like an escape hatch for companies that dip below the threshold after previously qualifying. Since we've never approached anywhere near $1 billion, sounds like this safe harbor provision doesn't apply to us.

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Mateo Sanchez

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I went through this exact same confusion last month when filing our 1120-F! As others have mentioned, these Corporate AMT questions are really only relevant for massive corporations. Since you mentioned you're a mid-sized foreign company filing for the first time, you can almost certainly answer "No" to all three questions. Just to break it down simply: - Question 1: Were you ever a billion-dollar+ company before? (Probably no) - Question 2: Are you a billion-dollar+ company now because you were before? (Probably no) - Question 3: Do you qualify to stop being considered a billion-dollar+ company? (Not applicable if you never were one) The IRS unfortunately makes everyone answer these questions even though they only apply to a tiny fraction of filers. It's like asking everyone if they own a yacht - most people can confidently say no! Just make sure to document your reasoning in case you're ever questioned about it.

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Olivia Garcia

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This is such a helpful way to think about it! The yacht analogy really puts it in perspective. I was getting so overwhelmed by all the technical tax language, but when you break it down like that, it's much clearer. Since we're nowhere near that billion-dollar threshold, I feel much more confident about answering "No" to all three questions. Thanks for the simple breakdown - sometimes the obvious answer really is the right one!

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Jessica Suarez

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I'm dealing with the exact same issue on our 1120-F filing! Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful. It sounds like for most of us mid-sized companies, the answer is a straightforward "No" to all three questions since we're nowhere near the $1 billion threshold. What's really frustrating is that the IRS makes everyone answer these questions even when they clearly don't apply to 99% of filers. It would save so much confusion if they just added a simple explanation like "If your company has never had income over $1 billion, answer No to questions 1-3." Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - it's reassuring to know other people were just as confused by the wording of these questions!

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