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Is unemployment the same as disability in California EDD?

So I got laid off last month and filed for unemployment through myEDD, and my cousin is currently getting disability through EDD too. We were comparing notes and honestly the whole thing is confusing because they both come from EDD and you apply somewhat similarly. Are these actually the same program? Like if I somehow got hurt while I was already on unemployment, would I just keep collecting? Or is there some big difference I'm missing? My weekly amount on the DE 429Z was $390 and I just want to make sure I'm in the right program and not accidentally messing something up. Anyone who's dealt with both programs please help me understand.

DE 429Z showing $390 means you're on Unemployment Insurance, which is for people who lost their job through no fault of their own — laid off, in your case. Disability Insurance (DI) is a totally separate program, same agency but different rules, different money, different reason. DI is for when you physically or mentally can't work because of a health condition, illness, pregnancy, that kind of thing — nothing to do with losing a job. The big thing to understand is you can't get both at the same time for the same days. EDD's own rule is you can't collect unemployment and disability for the same days. So if you got hurt while you were on UI, you'd have to stop certifying for unemployment and file for Disability Insurance instead. You wouldn't just keep both running.

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That makes sense about not getting both at once, but what happens to my unemployment claim if I had to switch to disability? Does it just disappear?

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The UI claim doesn't disappear. The benefit year clock is still running (it's 52 weeks from when your claim started), and your maximum benefit amount doesn't change. You just stop certifying for UI while you're on DI. When you recover and are able and available for work again, you'd go back to certifying on the UI claim if there's still time and money left on it.

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Didn't know you could go back and forth like that. Good to know.

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Waiting week situation on UI is also different from DI, worth mentioning. UI has a one-week unpaid waiting period — the first eligible week you certify, you don't get paid for that week. DI has its own waiting period too (9 days), but they're separate things counted separately. Filed for both in the last couple of years so I've seen both sides. Claimyr (claimyr.com) is what I used when my UI claim had a question about some part-time work I'd reported — the hold times on 1-800-300-5616 were brutal, and I ended up talking to an EDD agent through it. The agent looked at my claim and confirmed the pending week was just the waiting week being processed, not an actual problem. Here's EDD's video on reaching a live person at EDD by phone if you want to see how it goes: https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10

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The waiting week thing is confusing me a little. So when I look at UI Online and see one week that just says Pending — that might just be the waiting week and not something wrong?

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Exactly. The first time you certify usually covers two weeks — the waiting week and then the first paid week. The waiting week shows as pending or not paid, and that's completely normal. It doesn't mean your claim has a problem.

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Yep, my first certification looked scary because one week had no payment but the second one did. Freaked me out for nothing.

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Just to get the funding question out of the way because people mix this up constantly: UI and DI are paid for in completely different ways. Your employer pays into unemployment insurance — nothing comes out of your paycheck for UI. The CASDI deduction you see on your paystub? That's what pays for State Disability Insurance and Paid Family Leave. So unemployment is employer-funded, disability is worker-funded through payroll deductions. Same agency (EDD), totally different buckets of money.

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wait so ive been paying into disability this whole time through my paychecks?? i never realized that

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Pretty much everyone misses it. That little CASDI line on your paystub is your contribution to SDI, which covers both Disability Insurance and Paid Family Leave. Your employer handles UI contributions separately and you never see that deduction at all.

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This is actually a super common misconception. I've heard so many people say they 'paid into' unemployment through their taxes — but it's the employer contribution, not the worker's.

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The other program that fits in here is Paid Family Leave, since people lump all three together sometimes. PFL is also under SDI (same CASDI deduction funds it), but it's for bonding with a new baby or caring for a seriously sick family member. Can't do PFL and UI at the same time either — you have to pick one for any given period. All three file through EDD but they're running on completely separate tracks.

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So to summarize what I'm learning: UI for job loss, DI for your own health problem, PFL for family care situations, and you can only be on one at a time?

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That's exactly it. And they all go through EDD so the accounts and some of the portal stuff overlaps, which is why people get confused. But the eligibility rules, the reasons you'd collect, and the funding behind each one are all different.

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Pretty clean summary honestly. Took me reading like four different pages on edd.ca.gov to piece that together when I was first dealing with this.

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Something that tripped me up: I got injured and thought maybe I could file for UI since I couldn't work. Nope. UI requires you to be ABLE to work and AVAILABLE for work every single week you certify. If you're physically unable to work because of an injury or illness, you don't meet UI's requirements for those weeks, so you'd file DI instead. This isn't a technicality — EDD actually asks on the certification whether you were able and available for work each day. If you say no, that week doesn't get paid as UI.

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Ohh so the certification questions aren't just formalities, they actually determine if you get paid for that week?

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Completely. Each question on the certification matters. That's why if someone becomes disabled while collecting UI, they stop certifying for UI and file for DI — because they can no longer honestly answer yes to being able and available.

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i answered one of those wrong once by accident and had to contact edd to fix it. what a process that was

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Contacting EDD through a message in your UI Online account is usually the way to handle a certification correction — you can't fix a week already certified through Report Wages, that tool is only for checking before you certify.

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ok but practically how different are the weekly amounts? like does disability pay the same as unemployment

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Not the same formula. UI takes your highest-paid quarter in the base period and runs somewhere between $40 and $450 a week. DI is calculated differently and can be a higher percentage of your wages, but EDD decides the actual amount based on your earnings history — it's not the same calculation. So two people with identical work histories could get different weekly amounts from UI vs DI.

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interesting ok so disability isnt just a copy of unemployment with a different reason

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Totally separate systems. Even the base period calculations are different between the two programs.

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The 9-day waiting period for Disability Insurance trips people up — specifically, you can file as early as 9 days after your disability starts but no later than 49 days after. Miss that 49-day window and you've got a problem. UI has the one-week unpaid waiting week but no hard filing deadline like that (you just want to file as soon as you're out of work since the claim starts on the Sunday of the week you apply). Different clocks on both programs.

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49 days is not very long if you're dealing with a serious illness and paperwork is the last thing on your mind.

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Completely agree, it's a tight window. And Paid Family Leave has its own deadline — no later than 41 days after the leave starts. So you need to know which program applies to your situation before the clock runs out.

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The deadlines alone are reason enough to understand the difference between the programs before you need them. Finding out when you're already sick is rough.

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My layoff earlier this year had a little overlap with a surgery I'd already scheduled, and figuring out which program to be on during recovery was genuinely confusing. I ended up stopping UI certifications for the weeks I was post-surgery and unable to work, filed for DI for that stretch, and then went back to certifying for UI once I was recovered and actively job searching again. The claim balance on UI was still there waiting.

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That's exactly the scenario I was worried about. Good to know the UI balance doesn't just evaporate while you're on DI.

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As long as the benefit year (52 weeks from your start date) hasn't ended and you haven't used up the maximum benefit amount, the UI claim just picks back up. DI pauses it, doesn't erase it.

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Had a coworker go through something similar. The key was she stopped certifying for UI on time — there would've been an overpayment issue if she'd kept certifying for UI while also collecting DI for the same weeks.

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Workers comp is another one that gets thrown into this conversation. If you're hurt on the job, workers' comp (not DI) is the first thing that applies. EDD notes there's overlap sometimes with DI and workers' comp, but it's not common for both to be paid at the same time, and EDD decides how it affects things. UI and workers' comp together is a whole other question that EDD also sorts out. The short version: report all of it on your certifications and let EDD figure out the interaction.

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so you just report everything and they do the math? doesnt that feel risky

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That's genuinely the right approach. The certification asks what you earned or received; you report it accurately. EDD has the rules about what reduces what — getting that wrong by not reporting something is how overpayments happen, and those are a pain to deal with.

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Overpayments are the nightmare scenario. Way easier to just report and let EDD calculate than to under-report and get a notice asking for money back.

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i was laid off AND had a pregnancy come up at the same time and i was totally lost about which program was for me. ended up being DI for the pregnancy part (before birth) and PFL after. the UI claim i had filed just sat there while i was on DI and PFL. honestly EDD's website explains this if you dig but finding the right page took me forever

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How did you know to file DI for before birth vs PFL after? That distinction wasn't obvious to me.

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DI covers the period when you physically can't work because of the pregnancy itself — usually that's the time before and right after delivery. Once you've recovered and you're bonding with the baby, that shifts to PFL. Your doctor fills out part of the DI claim form so the timing gets sorted out through that process.

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EDD's SDI Online is where both DI and PFL claims are filed, same portal but different claim types. UI is in myEDD. The different portals are part of why it doesn't all feel connected even though it's the same agency.

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One important clarification on something I've seen stated wrong in a few places: Social Security benefits don't get deducted from your UI payments and you don't report Social Security on your UI certifications. That's specifically off the reporting list. Pensions are different — pension or retirement income based on your past work might reduce your UI weekly amount, and EDD decides how much. But Social Security is its own thing and doesn't interact with UI in that way.

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Good catch. The reporting list for UI certifications includes wages, workers' comp, vacation pay, severance, pensions, self-employment income, and a few others — but Social Security is explicitly not on it.

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my grandpa was asking about this literally yesterday, he got laid off from a part time job and was worried his social security would mess up a UI claim

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He can file. Social Security doesn't get deducted from UI benefits, and he doesn't report it on certifications. The UI amount is based on wages from the base period — typically the first four of the last five completed calendar quarters before the claim starts.

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The CalJOBS requirement is UI-specific — no equivalent for DI or PFL. When you're on UI, most people have to register on caljobs.ca.gov and post a resume within 21 days of the date on the Notice of Requirement to Register for Work (DE 8405). Missing that deadline can stop your payments. DI and PFL claimants aren't job searching, obviously, so there's no CalJOBS requirement for them.

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I did register on CalJOBS after I got the DE 8405, but I wasn't totally sure why it was required. This explains it.

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The job registration piece is easy to overlook because it doesn't come up during the actual UI application — it arrives separately by mail after. A lot of people miss the 21-day window because they don't realize the DE 8405 is a deadline notice.

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Missed my own CalJOBS deadline years ago and payments stopped without any obvious reason on UI Online. Had to call EDD to figure out what happened. Register early and do it as soon as the form arrives.

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Severance pay question for OP since they mentioned just getting laid off: severance doesn't disqualify you from UI or delay when you can start. EDD's rules say severance paid under a company plan or policy isn't counted as wages for UI purposes, so getting a severance package doesn't push your start date back. You still report it when the certification asks — EDD handles the calculation — but you can file your claim right away without waiting for the severance to run out.

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My company paid me two weeks severance and I was nervous I had to wait two weeks before filing. So I should have filed immediately?

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File immediately. The claim starts on the Sunday of the week you apply, and waiting costs you those weeks. Severance from a company plan doesn't delay your eligibility start date the way some people assume it does.

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Vacation payout and in-lieu-of-notice pay are on the list of things you do report, and EDD decides how they affect your payments — those two are treated differently from severance. Worth double-checking which kind of payout you got.

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The Form 1099G issue is worth bringing up: at the end of the year you get a 1099G from EDD for the UI benefits you collected. UI benefits are federal taxable income. DI benefits are generally not federally taxable. PFL benefits — taxable. So all three programs handle taxes differently, another reason they're not the same thing even though they all come from EDD.

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Wait DI isn't taxed federally? That's a meaningful difference.

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EDD has the specifics, but the general rule is UI shows up on your 1099G as taxable income and you can opt to have 10 percent withheld during each certification. DI is different. Worth understanding before year-end so the tax bill isn't a surprise.

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The 1099G for UI is available in UI Online under Payments — the Form 1099G option — by January 31 of the following year, or EDD mails it if you're not set up for paperless.

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EDD PHONES ARE A NIGHTMARE don't even get me started. I've been trying to sort out a UI question for three weeks and every time I call 1-800-300-5616 i get the message about high call volume and then nothing. tried the live chat in UI Online too but i can only do that between 9 and 2 on weekdays and i work during those hours now (part time, still certifying). at my wit's end

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Part-time work while on UI — make sure you're reporting those wages through UI Online's Report Wages section before certifying, and that you're reporting for the week the work was performed, not the week you get paid. The earnings formula EDD uses is the first $25 or 25 percent of gross weekly wages (whichever is bigger) doesn't count, and anything above that reduces the weekly benefit dollar for dollar.

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i know about reporting, that part i have down. its a question about my base period — my highest-earning quarter was the most recent one before my claim started and my weekly amount seems lower than i'd expect

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The standard base period is the first four of the last five completed calendar quarters before the claim start date — so your most recent completed quarter might not be in it. The alternate base period uses the last four completed quarters, but EDD only uses it automatically if the standard base period doesn't produce a valid claim at all. It doesn't bump up the weekly amount on a claim that's already valid. That's probably what you're running into.

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The base period explanation above is correct and that exact thing happened on my claim. Last quarter wages were the highest I'd ever earned and they fell right outside the standard base period window. Spent a long time confused about why my DE 429Z showed a lower weekly amount than I calculated. Used Claimyr to get an EDD agent on the phone — the pending question on my Claim History was about an identity verification step that had cleared, the agent confirmed my DE 429Z amount was calculated correctly from the standard base period quarters, and that the alternate base period wouldn't apply since my claim was valid under the standard one.

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that's exactly what i suspect is happening to me. so theres really no way to get the higher amount even if the most recent quarter would have made a big difference?

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The alternate base period only comes in if the standard one doesn't produce a valid claim. If your claim is already valid under the standard base period, the alternate doesn't get applied to raise the amount — that's just how the system works, not a mistake that can be corrected.

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I've been reading this whole thread and the base period thing is genuinely counterintuitive. Makes sense why people get confused and think something went wrong.

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Appeals are another thing that's different between UI and DI. If your UI claim gets denied — you get a Notice of Determination (DE 1080CZ) with an Appeal Form (DE 1000M) — you have 30 calendar days from the mailing date on that notice to appeal in writing. File the DE 1000M or write a letter and mail it to the address on the notice. The appeal goes to the California Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board, and an administrative law judge handles the hearing. Keep certifying during the appeal or EDD can't pay back any weeks you didn't certify.

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Important note about certifying during the appeal — I would not have known to keep doing that.

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A lot of people stop certifying when they get denied because it feels pointless. But those uncertified weeks can't be paid even if you win the appeal. Keep certifying regardless.

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30 days goes fast especially if the notice sits in a stack of mail for a week before you open it

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Flagging something I saw stated a little loosely earlier in the thread: when someone said 'you can file for both UI and DI at the same time' — technically you can file, but EDD will only pay one for any given day. You can't collect both simultaneously. The comment was well-intentioned but someone reading it fast might think double-dipping is okay. It isn't — EDD's rule is clear that you can't receive unemployment and disability for the same days.

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Worth clarifying. The practical scenario where you'd file both is if there's uncertainty about timing — like if someone becomes disabled and there's a question about which weeks get covered by which program. But payment-wise, it's one or the other for any given day.

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Exactly. File appropriately for your situation, but understand that EDD will sort out the overlap and you won't be getting two checks for the same period.

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The overpayment that would result from collecting both for the same days would be really bad to deal with — EDD would eventually catch it and want the money back, possibly with penalties.

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Claimyr worked for me when my DI claim and old UI claim had some overlap that was creating a pending status. Got through to an EDD agent who pulled up both claims and confirmed the pending weeks were from the crossover period between the two programs — my DI start date and my last certified UI week had a one-day gap the system flagged. The agent said to expect the payment on the UI side to process once that was reviewed.

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So you had actual crossover between programs on your account and it got resolved? That's reassuring for anyone worried about switching back and forth.

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Got sorted out within a few days of the call. The key was knowing exactly what to ask — which weeks were pending, what triggered the flag, and what was needed to clear it.

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Knowing what to ask matters a lot on those calls. The more specific you can be about dates, weekly amounts, and which claim you're asking about, the faster the agent can actually help.

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America's Job Centers of California (AJCCs) have free workshops on resume writing, job fairs, job search strategies — that stuff is worth using if you're on UI and actively looking. CalJOBS registration links to the AJCC network too. They don't process or decide claims, that's all EDD, but the job search resources are genuinely useful. Find one near you through EDD's Office Locator.

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I had no idea AJCCs were connected to this whole system. I'll look one up — been struggling with updating my resume anyway.

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They're completely free and you don't need an appointment at most locations. The resume workshops especially are helpful if it's been a while since you've looked for work.

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CalJOBS also has job listings beyond just the registration requirement. Worth actually using it for the job search, not just checking the registration box.

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Final thing worth adding for OP: the phone interview question. If you filed UI after a layoff with no dispute, you likely won't get scheduled for one. But if there's any question about your eligibility — say EDD needs to verify the reason you stopped working — they'll schedule a phone interview and send you a DE 4800 notice with the date and time. The time is also on your UI Online homepage. The interviewer phones you at that scheduled time, so keep your phone available. Missing it means EDD decides from whatever information they already have, which could mean delays or denial. Phone EDD the same day if you miss it.

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My layoff was pretty clean — company downsizing, no disputes — so hopefully no interview needed. But good to know the DE 4800 is what to look for if it does come up.

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Clean layoffs usually go through without an interview. The interview tends to get scheduled when there's a quit or termination for cause, or some other eligibility question EDD needs to resolve with both sides.

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Keep checking your mail and your UI Online homepage regardless. The DE 4800 can come without much warning and missing that scheduled interview time creates a bigger headache than the interview itself.

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Agreed — my DE 4800 gave me less than a week's notice. Had to rearrange a few things to have my phone free at that time. Worth it, the interview itself was pretty quick.

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