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EDD benefits while receiving company pension - Am I eligible for unemployment?

So after 23 years at the same manufacturing company, I got laid off last week due to 'restructuring' (aka they're moving operations to Arizona). The severance package includes my pension that I can start collecting immediately - about $2,100 monthly. I'm only 58 and definitely NOT ready to retire yet. Does collecting this pension disqualify me from getting unemployment benefits in California? I heard somewhere that pension money affects UI eligibility, but I'm getting conflicting info from former coworkers. Some say I can get both, others say the pension will completely cancel out any EDD payments. Anyone dealt with this situation before? I've already applied for UI through the EDD website, but I'm worried about having to pay everything back if I wasn't supposed to apply in the first place. Thanks for any help!

Yes, you can collect unemployment while receiving a pension, BUT your weekly benefit amount will likely be reduced. California EDD uses something called "pension offset" - they deduct part of your pension payment from your weekly UI benefit. The formula depends on whether your employer contributed to your pension. If they paid 100% of it (which sounds like your case), EDD will reduce your weekly benefit by the prorated weekly amount of your pension. So your $2,100 monthly pension equals about $485 weekly, which would be subtracted from your UI benefit. For example, if you qualify for the maximum weekly benefit of $575, you'd receive about $90/week after the pension offset ($575 - $485 = $90). Make sure you accurately report your pension when you certify each period!

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Thank you so much for explaining this! I was so confused because some of my coworkers (who were also laid off) insisted that collecting pension automatically disqualified me. This makes a lot more sense now. So even though the amount will be reduced, I can still receive something from UI? That's better than nothing! Do I need to call EDD to explain my pension situation or will they ask about it during the certification process?

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I went through this EXACT thing in 2023!!! Got laid off from Pacific Gas after 19 years and started collecting my pension right away. EDD is a NIGHTMARE about this!!! They made me wait almost 9 WEEKS before I got ANY money because they had to "calculate the pension offset" or whatever. And then they had the nerve to BACKDATE the reduction to my first payment so I got a notice saying I was overpaid for the first month!!! Had to pay back like $1800!!! RIDICULOUS!! My advice - CALL THEM IMMEDIATLY to tell them about the pension before your first certification!!! Don't wait for them to ask!!!

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Oh no, that sounds awful! I definitely don't want to deal with an overpayment situation. I'll try calling them this week to explain my situation before I do my first certification. Thanks for the warning!

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same happened to my uncle but he never got through to anyone on phone. spent 3 days trying

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If you're having trouble getting through to EDD (who isn't lol), try using Claimyr. I was in a similar situation last year and couldn't get through to explain my pension situation. Used their service and got connected to an actual EDD rep in about 20 minutes instead of spending days calling. Their website is claimyr.com and they have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10?si=TSwYbu_GOwYzt9km Totally worth it to avoid the pension offset confusion. The rep I spoke with was able to note my account properly so I didn't have payment delays or overpayment issues.

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Thank you for suggesting this! I've been trying to call EDD for two days now with no luck. I'll check out that service - anything to avoid overpayment issues later.

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wait do u have to report 401k too? i just started getting UI and didnt tell them about my 401k from old job

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401k is different from a pension. If you're not withdrawing from your 401k yet, then there's nothing to report. The pension offset only applies to retirement income you're actively receiving during your claim period. Just leaving money in a 401k doesn't affect your UI benefits.

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o ok thx for explaining!!

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Here's what you need to know specifically for 2025 (rules updated this year): 1. Report your pension on question #2 during certification "Did you receive any other type of income?" 2. The current formula for company-funded pensions is: Weekly UI benefit - (Monthly pension ÷ 4.33) = Adjusted weekly benefit 3. You need to submit proof of your pension amount. Upload your pension award letter to UI Online under "Upload Documents" 4. You still need to meet all work search requirements despite getting a pension 5. If your adjusted benefit would be less than $40/week, you may be denied benefits entirely under the new minimum threshold rule The key is proactive reporting. If you wait for them to discover your pension later, you'll almost certainly face penalties and overpayment issues.

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This is incredibly helpful - thank you! I didn't realize I'd need to upload my pension documentation. I have the letter from my employer with all the details, so I'll make sure to upload that. Based on your formula, it looks like I'll get about $90/week after the offset, which is above the minimum threshold you mentioned. That's a relief. I appreciate you sharing the updated 2025 rules!

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I know this doesn't directly answer your pension question, but since you mentioned you're only 58 and not ready to retire - make sure you're also registering with CalJOBS and checking out the EDD Workforce Services. They have special programs for 'older workers' (their term, not mine!) that can help with job placement. My husband was in a similar situation last year at 56, and they were surprisingly helpful with finding opportunities that valued his experience.

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That's great advice - I hadn't even thought about those resources! I'll definitely look into the EDD Workforce Services. At this point, I'm open to any help finding a new position. Do you know if they offer any retraining programs as well? My skills in manufacturing might need some updating.

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Yes! They absolutely have retraining programs. My husband got a partially funded certification program in supply chain management through them. When you register with CalJOBS, request an appointment with a career counselor and specifically ask about the Workforce Innovation and Opportunity Act (WIOA) funding for retraining. Manufacturing skills are actually in demand but sometimes need updated certifications.

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One more thing NO ONE told me - if you do get that partial UI payment after the pension deduction, you'll STILL qualify for the EDD UI Mastercard/Money Network card and you NEED to keep it even if the amount seems small!!! That card gives you access to your EDD account info and sometimes they send important notices ONLY to people with active cards!!

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this is true i got important mail thru money network app not email

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My situation wasnt exactly the same but kinda similar? I took early retirement from state job last year (im 62) and get pension but its small like $1500/month. Then i got part time job at Walmart but they cut my hours to nothing so i filed unemployment. EDD sent me SOOO many confusing questions about my pension! I had to have phone interview and everything. ended up getting benefits but took like 2 months. just be prepared for long wait and confusion!

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That sounds frustrating! I'm trying to brace myself for a wait, but bills don't stop coming just because EDD is processing things slowly. Did you have to do a phone interview specifically about the pension? I wonder if I should proactively request one.

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One additional tip regarding your pension and UI benefits: Make sure you're very clear about the exact date you started receiving pension payments. If there's any gap between your last day of work and your first pension payment, that period might qualify for full UI benefits without the offset. Also, if you're able to get through to EDD, ask them about the "reasonable assurance of employment" rule. In some cases, if you can demonstrate that you're actively seeking work in a different industry than your previous employer, you might qualify for different offset calculations. Keep in mind that UI benefits, even reduced ones, extend your overall financial runway while job hunting. And don't forget that receiving ANY UI amount (even $1/week) qualifies you for other assistance programs if needed.

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That's excellent advice about the gap between work and pension! There is actually a 2-week period between my last day and when my pension officially starts. I'll definitely mention that when I talk to EDD. I hadn't heard about the "reasonable assurance of employment" rule either. I am looking in different industries, so that might help my case. Thanks again for all your help. This community has been so informative - I feel much more prepared to navigate this situation now!

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Just wanted to add something important that I learned the hard way - when you report your pension during certification, make sure you report the GROSS amount, not the net amount after taxes. I made that mistake initially and it caused a whole mess with my calculations. Also, if your pension includes any cost-of-living adjustments (COLA) throughout the year, you'll need to report those changes to EDD immediately. Mine went up by $47/month in July and I didn't think to report it right away - ended up with another overpayment notice. One last thing - if you're planning to look for work in Arizona (since that's where your company moved), make sure you understand how that affects your California UI claim. There are interstate agreements but the rules can get complicated if you're job searching out of state. Good luck with everything! The manufacturing industry has been brutal lately with all these relocations and "restructuring" moves.

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This is really helpful information - thank you! I definitely would have made the mistake of reporting the net amount instead of gross. My pension paperwork shows both amounts, so I'll make sure to use the gross figure. The COLA adjustment tip is especially valuable. I'll need to keep an eye on that since my pension does include annual adjustments. I had no idea that even small increases needed to be reported immediately. As for Arizona - that's actually a great point I hadn't considered. I'm not planning to relocate there (cost of living is one thing, but the heat is another!), but some of my former coworkers are following the company. I'll stick to California job searching for now to keep things simpler. Thanks for the solidarity on the manufacturing situation too. It's been tough watching so many companies make these moves. Hopefully there are still opportunities here for those of us with experience!

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I'm dealing with almost the exact same situation right now! Got laid off from a tech company after 18 years and they're offering early pension at 55. I've been so worried about the UI eligibility issue. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful. The pension offset formula makes so much more sense now - I was completely confused about how it worked. One question though - has anyone had experience with how stock options or equity payouts are treated? My severance package includes some vested stock options that I can exercise, but I'm not sure if EDD considers that "income" that needs to be reported during certification. Don't want to make any mistakes that could cause problems later! Also want to echo what others said about calling EDD early. I've been putting it off because I know how hard it is to get through, but sounds like being proactive is way better than dealing with overpayment issues down the line.

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Welcome to the "laid off with pension complications" club! It's not a club anyone wants to join, but at least we're all figuring this out together. Regarding stock options - from what I understand, EDD typically only cares about income you're actively receiving during your benefit period. If you exercise stock options and sell them, that would likely count as income that needs to be reported. But if you're just holding onto vested options without exercising them, it's probably similar to the 401k situation someone mentioned earlier - no impact on UI benefits. That said, I'd definitely recommend asking about this specifically when you call EDD. Stock compensation can be tricky and the rules might be different than regular pension income. You're absolutely right about calling early being better than dealing with overpayment issues later. I learned that lesson from reading everyone's horror stories here! Even if it takes multiple attempts to get through, it's worth the peace of mind. Good luck with your situation - sounds like we're both navigating similar waters with these corporate "restructuring" moves. Hope we both land on our feet soon!

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I'm in a similar boat but with a twist - got laid off from a union job after 20 years and my pension is through the union, not directly from my employer. Does anyone know if the pension offset rules work differently for union pensions vs company pensions? Also seeing all the advice about calling EDD early - has anyone had luck with the online chat feature? I know it's usually useless but wondering if pension questions might get better responses there than trying to get through on the phone. Really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences here. It's scary enough being laid off at this age without having to worry about accidentally messing up your UI benefits because of pension complications!

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I don't have direct experience with union pensions specifically, but from what I've read, the pension offset rules should work the same way regardless of whether it's a company pension or union pension. The key factor is whether your employer contributed to the pension (which they likely did even if it was administered through the union). You might want to check with your union rep too - they often have experience helping members navigate UI claims with pension complications. Sometimes they even have contacts at EDD who understand the union pension structure better. As for the online chat, I tried it a few times and never got helpful responses about pension questions. The chat agents seem to only handle basic stuff and always told me I needed to call for anything pension-related. But it might be worth a quick try since you're not spending hours on hold! You're so right about it being scary at this age. Between the job market challenges and all these bureaucratic hoops to jump through, it feels overwhelming. But this community has been a lifesaver for getting real advice from people who've actually been through it.

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Just want to add one more important consideration for everyone in similar situations - make sure you understand how your pension affects your taxes! I learned this the hard way last year. When you're receiving both pension income and UI benefits (even reduced ones), you might end up in a different tax bracket than expected. UI benefits are fully taxable, and pension income is usually taxable too. You can elect to have taxes withheld from your UI payments, but the default is no withholding. I ended up owing a lot more in taxes than I planned for because I didn't account for the combination of pension + UI income. Definitely recommend talking to a tax professional or at least using tax software that can handle multiple income sources. Also, don't forget that if you do find a new job later in the year, having received both pension and UI income earlier can make your tax situation pretty complicated. Just something to keep in mind for planning purposes! The silver lining is that job search expenses are sometimes deductible, so keep track of those receipts for networking events, resume services, etc.

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This is such an important point that I hadn't even considered! Thank you for bringing up the tax implications. I was so focused on figuring out the pension offset calculation that I completely overlooked how receiving both types of income would affect my tax situation. I definitely need to look into having taxes withheld from my UI payments if I end up getting approved. The last thing I want is a big tax bill next year when I'm potentially still looking for work. Do you know if there's a way to estimate the tax impact beforehand? I'd rather be prepared and maybe even set aside extra money now rather than be surprised later. I'm already dealing with enough financial uncertainty with this whole situation. The job search expense deduction tip is great too - I hadn't thought about keeping those receipts but it makes sense. Every little bit helps when you're managing on reduced income. Thanks for sharing your experience. It's these kinds of real-world details that you never think about until you're actually going through it!

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I'm just starting to navigate this pension + unemployment situation myself, and wow, this thread has been incredibly eye-opening! I had no idea about so many of these details. I'm 61 and got laid off from my engineering job last month. My company is offering an early pension option that would give me about $1,800/month. I was hesitant to take it because I wasn't sure how it would affect unemployment benefits, but reading everyone's experiences here makes me feel more confident about moving forward. The tax implications that @Savannah brought up are particularly concerning - I definitely need to factor that into my decision. And the advice about calling EDD proactively rather than waiting for them to discover the pension later seems crucial based on all the horror stories about overpayments and delays. One thing I'm still unclear on - if I haven't started collecting the pension yet, should I wait to apply for it until after I see what my UI benefit amount would be? Or does it not matter timing-wise as long as I report everything accurately? Thanks to everyone who has shared their experiences. This is exactly the kind of real-world advice you can't get from official websites or generic guides!

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Welcome to this pension + unemployment maze! I'm glad this thread has been helpful - I was just as confused when I first started dealing with this situation. Regarding your timing question, from what I've learned from everyone here, it probably doesn't matter much when you start the pension as long as you report it accurately to EDD. The pension offset will be calculated based on whatever pension income you're receiving during each certification period. However, one thing to consider is what @Juan mentioned earlier about potential gaps between your last day of work and when pension payments start. If there's a delay in starting your pension, you might qualify for full UI benefits during that gap period without any offset. You might want to run the numbers both ways - see what your estimated UI benefit would be, then calculate what it would be after the pension offset using the formula @Elin shared (Monthly pension ÷ 4.33 subtracted from weekly UI benefit). That could help you decide on timing. At 61 in engineering, you probably have good prospects for finding another position, so the reduced UI amount might still be worth having as a financial cushion while job hunting. Plus as others mentioned, even a small UI payment keeps you connected to other EDD resources and programs. Good luck with whatever you decide! This community has been a lifesaver for navigating all these complications.

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I'm 54 and just went through this exact situation 6 months ago! Got laid off from a logistics company after 16 years and started collecting my pension right away ($1,950/month). Here's what I wish someone had told me upfront: YES you can collect both, but the pension offset means your UI benefits will be significantly reduced. In my case, I went from a potential $520/week UI benefit down to about $70/week after the pension deduction. The most important thing - and I cannot stress this enough - is to be completely transparent with EDD from day one. During your first certification, when they ask about "other income," report your pension immediately. Don't wait for them to ask follow-up questions or try to figure out if it "counts." It counts. I spent 3 weeks calling EDD before my first certification just to make sure they had all my pension details on file. It was frustrating but SO worth it because I never had any overpayment issues or delays. Some of my former coworkers who didn't report upfront are still dealing with EDD debt collectors 8 months later. Also keep every single piece of pension documentation - award letters, payment stubs, everything. EDD may ask for proof multiple times throughout your claim period. The reduced UI amount might seem small, but it still helps bridge the gap while job hunting. Plus you stay eligible for job training programs and other workforce services. At our age, every bit of support helps!

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This is exactly what I needed to hear from someone who's been through it recently! Thank you for sharing the specific numbers - seeing that you went from $520/week to $70/week gives me a much clearer picture of what to expect with my $2,100 monthly pension. Your advice about being completely transparent from day one really reinforces what everyone else has been saying. I'm definitely going to call EDD before my first certification to make sure they have all my pension information properly documented. The stories about coworkers still dealing with debt collectors 8 months later are terrifying - that's exactly what I want to avoid! I'm also going to start organizing all my pension paperwork now so I have everything ready if they need additional documentation later. The award letter, payment schedules, everything. You're absolutely right about the reduced amount still being helpful. Even if it's only $90/week in my case, that's still something to help with expenses while I'm job searching. And staying connected to the job training programs could be really valuable at this stage of my career. Thanks for taking the time to share your experience - it's so reassuring to hear from someone who navigated this successfully!

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I'm currently dealing with a similar situation and this entire thread has been incredibly valuable! I'm 59, just got laid off from a telecommunications company after 21 years, and I'm facing the same pension + unemployment decision. What's been most helpful is seeing the actual numbers people have shared. The pension offset formula that @Elin provided (Monthly pension ÷ 4.33 subtracted from weekly UI benefit) finally makes sense of how this all works. I was getting so much conflicting information from HR and former colleagues. The unanimous advice about calling EDD proactively before the first certification is really striking - seems like every single person who waited or tried to figure it out later had major problems with overpayments and delays. That's definitely convinced me to spend whatever time it takes to get through to them first. I'm also really appreciating the practical tips about documentation, tax implications, and even things like keeping the EDD card for account access. These are the real-world details you just don't get from official sources. For anyone else just starting this process - this community discussion has been more informative than hours of searching EDD's website or calling their general help line. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences, especially the specific numbers and timelines. It really helps to know what to actually expect rather than just generic policy descriptions. Now I just need to work up the courage to start calling EDD! 😅

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You've got this! I know calling EDD can feel daunting, but honestly after reading everyone's experiences here, it's clear that being proactive is so much better than dealing with the alternative. What really helped me was writing down all my questions and pension details before calling, so I wouldn't forget anything important during the conversation. Having your pension award letter and exact monthly amount ready makes the call go much smoother. The wait times are brutal, but like @Esteban mentioned, there are services like Claimyr that can help you get through faster if you get really stuck. Sometimes it's worth paying a small fee to avoid weeks of frustration! One thing that gave me confidence was realizing that pension + UI situations are actually pretty common - the EDD reps deal with this all the time, so they know exactly what information they need from you. You're not asking them to figure out something unusual. Good luck with the calls, and definitely come back here to update us on how it goes! This community has been such a great resource for navigating all these complications.

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As someone who works in HR and has helped many employees navigate this exact situation, I wanted to add a few procedural points that might help: 1. **Document Everything**: Keep a detailed log of every interaction with EDD - date, time, rep name/ID, and what was discussed. This becomes crucial if there are any discrepancies later. 2. **Weekly Certification Timing**: Your pension payment date vs. your UI certification week can affect calculations. If your pension comes mid-week, be prepared to explain the timing to avoid confusion. 3. **Appeal Process**: If EDD makes an error in your pension offset calculation (which happens more often than it should), you have 30 days to file an appeal. Don't assume their math is always correct - double-check using the formula others have shared. 4. **Work Search Requirements**: Even with reduced benefits due to pension offset, you still need to meet the same work search requirements. Keep detailed records of your job search activities. 5. **COBRA Considerations**: If you're on COBRA from your previous employer, budget for those premiums continuing even with reduced UI income. Many people forget this additional expense when calculating their monthly budget. The key takeaway from everyone's experiences is clear: proactive communication with EDD prevents 90% of the problems people encounter with pension offsets.

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This is incredibly thorough and helpful advice - thank you for sharing your HR perspective! The point about documenting every interaction with EDD is especially valuable. I hadn't thought about keeping a detailed log, but given all the stories about calculation errors and overpayment issues, that seems like essential protection. The timing issue with pension payments vs. certification weeks is something I definitely need to clarify when I call EDD. My pension is scheduled to start on the 15th of the month, so depending on how my certification weeks align, that could create confusion if I'm not clear about it upfront. Your reminder about COBRA premiums is also really important - I was so focused on the pension offset calculation that I forgot to factor in those ongoing healthcare costs. That's going to be a significant chunk of my reduced UI benefits. The 30-day appeal window for calculation errors is good to know too. Based on what others have shared, it sounds like double-checking EDD's math is definitely worth doing rather than just assuming they got it right. Thanks for bringing the professional HR perspective to this discussion. It's reassuring to know that someone who helps people navigate this regularly confirms that proactive communication really is the key to avoiding most problems!

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I'm 56 and went through this exact situation last year after being laid off from a defense contractor. Got my pension ($1,875/month) and was terrified about the UI implications after hearing conflicting advice from everyone. The pension offset is real, but manageable if you handle it right. My weekly UI benefit went from $485 to about $52/week after the offset. Not much, but it kept me connected to EDD services and helped with small expenses during my 4-month job search. Two critical things I learned: 1) Call EDD BEFORE your first certification - I spent 2 days calling but finally got through and had them note my pension details properly. This saved me from the overpayment nightmares others experienced. 2) Save every pension document in a dedicated folder. EDD asked for my pension verification letter THREE different times during my claim. Also want to mention - don't overlook CalJOBS registration even if your UI amount is small. The career counseling services were actually really helpful for someone in their 50s transitioning industries. They connected me with employers who valued experienced workers rather than just focusing on age. The whole process is stressful but definitely doable. Just be transparent, keep good records, and don't let the reduced benefit amount discourage you from applying. Every bit helps when you're job hunting at our age!

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Thank you so much for sharing your experience! It's really encouraging to hear from someone who successfully navigated this process and found a new job within 4 months. Your story gives me hope that this is all manageable with the right approach. The fact that you only got $52/week after the pension offset but still found it worthwhile is really helpful perspective. I was getting discouraged thinking about how small my benefit amount would be, but you're absolutely right that every bit helps, and staying connected to EDD services seems valuable. Your point about saving pension documents in a dedicated folder is great advice - I'm going to set that up right now. If they asked you for verification three different times, I definitely want to be prepared with organized documentation. I'm also really interested in what you said about CalJOBS and the career counseling services. I hadn't considered that they might have specific expertise helping older workers transition industries. That could be exactly what I need since manufacturing is getting so challenging with all these company relocations. Thanks for the encouragement about being transparent and keeping good records. Hearing from someone who went through the whole process successfully and came out the other side with a new job is exactly the motivation I needed to stop worrying and just get started with the process!

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