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Will EDD disqualify my entire claim if I take a lump sum pension hardship withdrawal?

I'm in a tough spot financially right now while on unemployment. My car just died (needs $3100 for a new transmission) and I'm considering taking a hardship withdrawal from my retirement pension account. The pension company said they could distribute about $15,000 as a one-time lump sum payment due to my financial hardship. My big worry is how this will affect my EDD benefits. I currently get $450/week in UI benefits and desperately need to keep receiving this while I job hunt. Will this lump sum pension withdrawal disqualify me from my ENTIRE unemployment claim going forward? Or will it just affect the ONE WEEK when I receive the money? I really need both the pension money AND to keep my weekly benefits continuing after that week. Has anyone dealt with pension withdrawals while on California unemployment? What happened with your claim?

According to EDD regulations, pension payments can reduce or eliminate your weekly UI benefit amount, but it depends on how the pension is structured. Since this is a one-time hardship withdrawal (not regular pension income), it would most likely only affect the week in which you receive it. You'll need to report it on your bi-weekly certification for the week you receive it. EDD considers this income for that specific week. The important distinction is that you're not taking regular pension payments, but rather a one-time hardship withdrawal. I strongly recommend calling EDD directly to verify this before taking the withdrawal, as different pension plans might be categorized differently.

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Thank you so much for the detailed info! I've been trying to call EDD for 3 days now to double-check, but I keep getting the "we're experiencing high call volume" message and then it hangs up. Do you know if there's a better time of day to call or some trick to actually get through to a rep?

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I took a 401k hardship withdrawal last year while on UI. It only affected the week I received it - I reported it as "other income" on my certification for that week. I didn't get UI payment for JUST that week, but my claim continued normally after. Make sure you understand the tax implications though... I got hit with a big tax bill because the 401k company only withheld 20% but I ended up owing more than that since the withdrawal pushed me into a higher tax bracket plus the early withdrawal penalty. Hope you get your car fixed soon. The job hunt is hard enough without transportation issues!

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NOT TRUE!! My brother got his entire claim cancelled when he took money from his pension!!! They said he was "double dipping" and made him pay back ALL THE MONEY from UI. Be very careful!!!

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I think everyone here is missing something important - the EDD rules about pensions depend on whether the pension is from an employer that's part of your BASE PERIOD (the 18 months they used to calculate your benefit amount). If the pension is from an employer in your base period, it could affect your entire claim. If it's from an older job that's not in your base period, then it usually only affects the week you report it. Also, important distinction between 401k hardship withdrawals (which are generally treated as one-time income) and actual pension disbursements (which can be more complicated). You NEED to clarify which type of retirement account this is before proceeding.

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This is from my job at Meridian Manufacturing where I worked for 8 years before being laid off 7 months ago. So yes, they are definitely in my base period since they were my most recent employer. Does that mean I'm completely screwed if I take this money out?? I really need to fix my car to keep going to interviews.

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In that case, you need to be extremely careful. Since it's from an employer in your base period, there's a risk it could affect your entire claim, not just one week. The EDD might view this as effectively receiving pension income, which can reduce your weekly benefit amount (WBA) going forward or potentially disqualify you. Before you take any action, you absolutely need to speak with an EDD representative to get a definitive answer for your specific situation. Document the call (date, time, rep name) and what they tell you for your records.

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dude just dont report it lol. how would edd even know if you took money out of your 401k? its not like regular income that gets reported to the irs until tax time next year.

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This is absolutely terrible advice that could result in an overpayment determination, penalties, and potentially fraud charges. The EDD cross-references with IRS data, and financial institutions report distributions. They may not catch it immediately, but during audits (which they regularly conduct), they will discover unreported income. Fraud penalties can include a 30% penalty on all benefits received, a 15-week disqualification period for future benefits, and potentially criminal prosecution for larger cases. ALWAYS report all income to EDD as required on your certification.

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i had a similar situation last summer when my roof started leaking and i needed $$$ fast. took out 8500 from my retirement. EDD did stop my payment for that ONE week but then everything went back to normal after. make sure u mark it as a ONE TIME withdrawal on ur certification and maybe even call and explain. good luck with ur car!!!! :

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Thanks for sharing your experience! Was your pension from an employer that was part of your base period (like in the last 18 months before your claim)?

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hmm not sure what base period means exactly?? the retirement account was from my current employer (the one that reduced my hours which is why i'm on partial unemployment

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After reading all the responses, I think you have two options: 1. Try contacting EDD directly for a definitive answer before taking any action. Given that this pension is from an employer in your base period, you need official guidance. 2. Consider alternative solutions for your car repair needs: - Credit union hardship loans often have better terms than retirement withdrawals - Some nonprofit organizations offer emergency grants/loans for transportation needs specifically for job seekers - See if your local workforce development center has transportation assistance programs The tax implications of early retirement withdrawals can be severe (10% federal penalty + ordinary income tax + state penalties). Plus, you're depleting your retirement savings during a vulnerable time. If you do proceed with the withdrawal, be 100% transparent with EDD and keep documentation of everything.

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Thank you for these suggestions. I've actually already tried the credit union route (denied), and I don't qualify for any of the nonprofits in my area because I'm single with no kids. I think I really need to talk to an EDD rep directly like you suggested. At this point I'm desperate to fix my car so I can keep going to interviews.

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THE EDD SYSTEM IS DESIGNED TO CONFUSE YOU AND TRAP YOU!!! I had a similar situation and ended up with a "false statement penalty" that added 6 PENALTY WEEKS to my claim where I didn't get paid at all!! They said I should have known that my pension withdrawal counted as income even though the EDD website is completely unclear about this!! THIS SYSTEM IS RIGGED AGAINST WORKERS!!

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did u appeal? my cousin got penalty weeks for something similar and appealed and won

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I tried to appeal but they said I filed too late because I didn't understand the confusing paperwork they sent. The whole system is designed to deny benefits that WE PAID INTO through our work!!

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After reading all this, I think your best bet really is to talk directly with an EDD representative before taking any action. Since this is from an employer in your base period, it's complicated and getting the wrong advice could create a huge mess. If you're still having trouble getting through on the phone, I seriously recommend trying Claimyr. It saved me days of frustration, and for something this important, it's worth getting a definitive answer from EDD directly.

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You're right - I need to talk to EDD directly before I do anything. The stakes are too high to guess. I'll check out that service and see if it helps me get through. Thanks everyone for all the advice and sharing your experiences!

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