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Charlotte White

Can I collect NYS Department of Labor unemployment benefits if I receive a pension?

I'm 62 and was laid off from my job at a manufacturing company last month. I've been paying into a pension plan for the past 15 years and I'm eligible to start collecting it now. My question is - can I still file for unemployment benefits with NYS Department of Labor while receiving pension payments? I heard there might be some rules about this but I'm not sure what they are. The pension would only be about $800 a month and my unemployment would be around $450 a week, so I really need both to make ends meet. Has anyone dealt with this situation before?

Admin_Masters

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Yes, you can collect both in New York, but there are some important rules to know about. If your pension is from the same employer that laid you off, NYS Department of Labor will reduce your weekly unemployment benefit by the weekly amount of your pension. So if you get $800/month pension ($200/week), they'd subtract that from your $450 weekly benefit, leaving you with $250. However, if the pension is from a different employer than the one you were laid off from, it won't affect your unemployment at all.

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The pension is from the same company that laid me off, so it sounds like my benefits would be reduced. That's disappointing but at least I can still get something. Do I need to report the pension when I file my weekly claims?

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You definitely need to report the pension income when you file your weekly claims with NYS Department of Labor. They'll ask about any other income you're receiving. Be honest about it because they can find out anyway and you don't want to deal with an overpayment situation later. The reduction formula can be confusing so make sure you understand exactly how much your weekly benefit will be after the pension offset.

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Thanks for the warning about overpayments. I'll make sure to report everything correctly when I file my weekly claims.

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Ella Thompson

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ugh this is so confusing!! i'm in a similar situation but my pension is from a previous job not the one i got laid off from. does that mean i can keep my full unemployment benefits?? the NYS Department of Labor website is impossible to understand

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Admin_Masters

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If your pension is from a different employer than the one you were laid off from, then yes, you should be able to keep your full unemployment benefits without any reduction. The offset only applies when it's the same employer.

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JacksonHarris

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Never heard of that service but anything is better than sitting on hold for hours with NYS Department of Labor just to get disconnected!

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Royal_GM_Mark

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The whole pension offset thing is just another way for them to screw us over. You work your whole life, pay into both systems, then they penalize you for having a pension. Makes no sense.

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I get the frustration but at least NY allows you to collect both, even with the reduction. Some states don't allow it at all.

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Just wanted to add that the timing of when you start collecting your pension can also matter. If you haven't started collecting the pension yet, you might want to talk to someone at NYS Department of Labor about whether delaying it could help maximize your unemployment benefits in the short term. Sometimes the math works out better to delay the pension for a few months while you're collecting unemployment, then start it later. But definitely get official guidance on this since everyone's situation is different.

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Dananyl Lear

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That's a really good point about timing! I hadn't thought about delaying the pension to maximize unemployment benefits. Since I'm already eligible for the pension, I should probably call and ask about this before I start collecting it. Do you know if there are any penalties for delaying a pension once you're eligible, or does it just mean I'd get a higher monthly amount later?

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Yuki Tanaka

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I went through this same situation last year when I was laid off at 60. One thing to keep in mind is that the pension offset calculation can get tricky if your pension payments aren't consistent month to month. NYS Department of Labor calculates it based on the weekly equivalent, so if your pension varies, you'll need to report the actual amount each week. Also, make sure you understand whether your pension is considered "contributory" (you paid into it) or "non-contributory" (employer fully funded) because the rules can be slightly different. I'd recommend getting everything in writing from NYS Department of Labor about exactly how they'll calculate your offset so there are no surprises later.

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Omar Hassan

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This is really helpful info about contributory vs non-contributory pensions - I had no idea that could make a difference! My pension is contributory since I've been paying into it for 15 years. Do you happen to know if contributory pensions have any advantages when it comes to the offset calculation with NYS Department of Labor? And getting everything in writing is great advice - I definitely don't want any surprises down the road.

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Omar Farouk

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I'm dealing with a similar situation right now and wanted to share what I learned from my experience. When I called NYS Department of Labor to ask about the contributory vs non-contributory pension question, they told me that for contributory pensions (where you paid into it), they may reduce the offset amount by the portion you contributed. So if you paid 50% of the contributions and your employer paid 50%, they might only offset your unemployment by half of the weekly pension amount. But this varies case by case and you really need to get the specific calculation from them in writing. Also, keep all your pension documentation handy when you file your claim - they'll want to see the details about your contribution history. The whole process is definitely confusing but it's worth getting the exact numbers from them rather than guessing.

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Sofia Ramirez

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This is exactly the kind of detailed information I was looking for! The fact that they might only offset by the employer's contribution portion for contributory pensions could make a big difference in my case. Since I've been contributing to my pension for 15 years, I should definitely find out what percentage I contributed versus my employer. Do you remember how long it took NYS Department of Labor to give you the official calculation in writing? I want to make sure I have all this sorted out before I start filing my weekly claims.

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