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Mei Chen

Can I collect unemployment and retirement at the same time in New York?

I'm 64 and just got laid off from my job at a manufacturing plant where I worked for 18 years. I'm eligible to start drawing my pension next month, but I also want to file for unemployment benefits since I'm actively looking for work. Can I collect both unemployment and retirement benefits at the same time in New York? I'm worried the NYS Department of Labor will deny my claim if they see I'm getting pension payments. Has anyone been in this situation?

CosmicCadet

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Yes, you can generally collect both unemployment and retirement benefits in New York, but there are some important considerations. The NYS Department of Labor will reduce your weekly unemployment benefit by the amount of any pension you receive if your employer contributed to that pension. If it's entirely your own contributions, it shouldn't affect your UI benefits. You'll need to report the pension income when you file your weekly claims.

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Mei Chen

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Thank you! My employer did contribute to the pension fund, so I guess that means my unemployment will be reduced. Do you know how much they typically reduce it by?

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Liam O'Connor

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my dad went through this exact thing last year. he was getting like $180 a week in pension and they reduced his unemployment by that same amount so he basically got nothing from NYS Department of Labor

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Mei Chen

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Oh no, that's exactly what I was afraid of. So if my pension is more than my unemployment benefit, I won't get anything?

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Amara Adeyemi

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The reduction depends on how much your employer contributed versus your own contributions. When you file your initial claim, the NYS Department of Labor will ask for documentation about your pension. They'll calculate the weekly reduction based on the employer contribution portion only. If you can't reach them by phone to clarify (their lines are always busy), I used a service called Claimyr that actually got me through to an agent. Check out claimyr.com - they have a video demo at https://youtu.be/qyftW-mnTNI showing how it works.

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Never heard of that service before but honestly anything that can get you through to NYS Department of Labor sounds worth trying. I've been calling for weeks about my adjudication issue.

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This whole system is so confusing! Why should it matter if you worked your whole life and earned both benefits? The government takes enough in taxes already and then they want to penalize you for having a pension too. Makes no sense.

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CosmicCadet

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I understand the frustration, but the logic is that unemployment is meant to replace lost wages, and if you're receiving pension income, you're not entirely without income. It's not perfect, but that's the reasoning behind the offset rules.

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Dylan Wright

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Just make sure you're honest about the pension when you file your weekly claims. Don't try to hide it because NYS Department of Labor will find out eventually and then you'll have an overpayment issue to deal with. That's way worse than just having your benefits reduced.

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Mei Chen

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Definitely planning to be completely honest about everything. I don't want any problems down the road. Thanks for the warning!

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Yara Sabbagh

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I went through this same situation about 3 years ago when I was 62 and got laid off from the hospital where I worked. You definitely can collect both, but like others mentioned, they will reduce your unemployment by the employer contribution portion of your pension. In my case, my pension was about $220/week and my unemployment would have been $350/week, so I ended up getting around $130/week from unemployment. It's not ideal, but every little bit helps when you're job hunting. The key thing is to have all your pension documentation ready when you file - they'll want to know the exact breakdown of employer vs employee contributions. Also, don't let the reduced amount discourage you from filing - you're still entitled to those benefits and you never know how long your job search might take.

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Maya Lewis

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Thank you so much for sharing your experience! This is really helpful to hear from someone who actually went through it. The $130/week you ended up with is still something, and you're right that I should have all my pension documentation ready. Do you remember how long it took NYS Department of Labor to process your claim once you submitted all the pension paperwork? I'm hoping to get this sorted out quickly since I really need to start my job search.

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Chloe Martin

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I'm in a similar situation right now - 63 and recently laid off after 22 years with the same company. I haven't started my pension yet but was planning to next month. Reading through everyone's experiences here is really eye-opening. It sounds like the key is getting all your pension documentation together before you file and being completely transparent about everything. Even if the unemployment gets reduced, it's still money coming in while you're looking for work. Has anyone had luck finding employment in their 60s after being laid off? I'm wondering if I should focus more on the job search or just plan on the reduced benefits until I can find something.

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Ravi Gupta

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I'm sorry to hear about your layoff after so many years with the same company - that's really tough. From what I've seen in my community, finding employment in your 60s can be challenging but definitely not impossible. I'd suggest doing both - apply for the unemployment benefits (even if reduced) to have some income coming in while you actively job search. Don't underestimate your experience and skills! Many employers value the reliability and expertise that comes with seasoned workers. You might also want to consider networking through professional associations, former colleagues, or even part-time or contract work to get your foot in the door. The unemployment benefits can provide a safety net while you explore all your options.

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Ella Thompson

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I was in almost the exact same situation two years ago - 65, laid off after 20 years, and eligible for my pension. The NYS Department of Labor process was actually pretty straightforward once I had all my paperwork together. They'll ask you to provide documentation showing the breakdown of employer vs employee contributions to your pension. In my case, about 60% was employer-funded, so they reduced my weekly unemployment benefit by 60% of my weekly pension amount. It took about 3-4 weeks to get the pension documentation reviewed and my benefits adjusted. One tip - when you call to follow up (and you will need to call), try early morning around 8 AM or late afternoon after 3 PM when the lines are less busy. Also keep copies of everything you submit because they sometimes "lose" documentation. The reduced benefit isn't great, but it's still something to help bridge the gap while you're job searching.

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Amara Nwosu

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This is incredibly helpful, thank you for sharing such detailed information! The 3-4 week timeline for reviewing pension documentation is good to know - I was worried it might take much longer. Your tip about calling early morning or late afternoon is great too, I'll definitely try those times. It sounds like having everything well-documented and keeping copies is crucial. Even though the reduced benefit isn't ideal, you're absolutely right that it's still something to help during the job search. Did you end up finding new employment, or did you decide to just retire with your pension?

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Thanks for all the detailed info! I'm actually the original poster (Mei Chen) and this has been so helpful. I'm feeling much more confident about moving forward with both my pension and unemployment claim now. The 3-4 week timeline you mentioned is really useful to know - I was expecting it might take longer given how backed up everything seems to be with NYS Department of Labor. I'll make sure to get all my pension documentation together before I file and keep multiple copies of everything. Your tip about calling times is gold - I've been trying to reach them during lunch hours which is probably the worst time. Even if my benefits get reduced significantly, at least I'll have something coming in while I figure out my next steps. At 64, I'm not quite ready to fully retire yet, so I'm hoping to find something even if it's part-time or contract work.

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I went through something very similar last year at age 63. One thing I want to add that hasn't been mentioned yet - when you file your initial unemployment claim online, there's a specific section where they ask about pensions and retirement benefits. Don't skip over it or put "none" if you're planning to start your pension soon, even if you haven't started receiving it yet. I made that mistake initially and had to go through a whole appeals process to get it sorted out. Also, if your pension has a lump sum option versus monthly payments, that can affect how NYS Department of Labor calculates the offset. Monthly payments are easier for them to work with. The whole process took me about 6 weeks total from filing to getting my first reduced benefit payment, but having all my HR paperwork from my former employer ready made a big difference. Don't let the reduction discourage you from filing - I ended up collecting for about 8 months while job searching and it really helped cover my basic expenses.

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Adaline Wong

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This is such valuable advice about being upfront on the initial claim form! I can see how putting "none" initially when you're planning to start your pension soon would create complications later. That appeals process sounds like a nightmare to deal with. Your point about the lump sum versus monthly payments is really interesting too - I hadn't thought about how that might affect the calculations. My pension is set up for monthly payments, so hopefully that will make things smoother with NYS Department of Labor. Six weeks from filing to first payment isn't too bad considering all the documentation they need to review. It's encouraging to hear you were able to collect for 8 months - that really can make a difference when you're covering basic expenses during a job search. Thanks for sharing your experience!

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Amara Okafor

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I'm 61 and facing a similar situation - my company just announced layoffs for next month and I've been there 15 years. Reading through everyone's experiences here has been incredibly helpful and honestly a bit of a relief to know this is possible, even if the benefits get reduced. One question I haven't seen addressed yet - does it matter what type of pension you have? Mine is a 401k with employer matching rather than a traditional pension plan. I'm wondering if NYS Department of Labor treats those differently when calculating the offset. Also, for those who went through this process, did you find it better to start the pension first and then file for unemployment, or file for unemployment first? I'm trying to figure out the best timing to avoid any gaps in income. Thanks to everyone who's shared their stories - it's really helping me prepare for what's ahead.

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Eve Freeman

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Great question about the 401k versus traditional pension! From my understanding, NYS Department of Labor typically treats 401k withdrawals differently than traditional pension payments. Since a 401k is primarily funded by your own contributions (even with employer matching), the offset rules might be more favorable for you. However, they will still want to see documentation showing the employer match portion versus your contributions. As for timing, I'd suggest filing for unemployment first to get that process started, then begin your 401k distributions. That way you avoid any gaps in income and can provide accurate information about your retirement income when you file your weekly claims. The key is being transparent about everything from the start. You might want to contact NYS Department of Labor directly or check their website for specific guidance on 401k distributions versus traditional pensions - the rules can be quite different.

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I'm actually going through this exact situation right now at 65 - just filed for unemployment last week after being laid off and I'm starting my pension next month. The whole process has been pretty overwhelming, but reading everyone's experiences here is giving me hope that it's manageable. One thing I wanted to add is that when you gather your pension documentation, make sure to get a letter from your HR department that specifically breaks down the employer versus employee contribution percentages. NYS Department of Labor told me this would speed up the review process significantly. I'm still waiting for my initial determination, but my former HR manager was really helpful in getting me all the right paperwork. For anyone else in this boat - don't be afraid to ask your former employer's HR department for help with the documentation. Most of them have dealt with this before and know exactly what NYS Department of Labor needs. It's stressful being unemployed at our age, but at least we have these benefits available to help bridge the gap.

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Ellie Simpson

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Thank you for sharing this tip about getting a specific letter from HR breaking down the contribution percentages! That's really smart advice that I hadn't thought of. I'm sorry you're going through this stressful situation at 65 - being laid off at any age is tough, but especially when you're closer to retirement. It sounds like you're being really proactive about getting all the right documentation together upfront, which will hopefully make the NYS Department of Labor review process smoother. Your point about not being afraid to ask HR for help is spot on - they've probably helped other employees navigate this exact situation before. I hope your initial determination comes through quickly and that you're able to get some financial relief while you figure out your next steps. Keep us posted on how it goes!

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Monique Byrd

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I'm 58 and while I'm not in this exact situation yet, I'm trying to plan ahead since my company has been talking about potential restructuring. This thread has been incredibly informative - thank you to everyone who shared their real experiences! One thing I'm curious about that I haven't seen mentioned: if you're collecting both unemployment and pension, does that affect your ability to contribute to an IRA or does it count as earned income for tax purposes? I know unemployment is taxable, but I'm not sure how the combination works. Also, for those who successfully found new jobs while collecting both benefits, did you have to immediately stop the unemployment when you started working, or is there a grace period? I want to make sure I understand all the implications before I potentially face this situation myself.

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Avery Flores

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Great questions about the tax and IRA implications! From what I understand, unemployment benefits are definitely taxable income, but pension income tax treatment depends on whether it comes from pre-tax or post-tax contributions. For IRA contributions, you typically need "earned income" which unemployment and pensions usually don't qualify as - but you should definitely check with a tax professional since the rules can be complex when you have multiple income sources. As for stopping unemployment when you find work - yes, you must report any work immediately when you file your weekly claim. There's no grace period, and you have to stop claiming benefits as soon as you start working, even part-time. NYS Department of Labor is pretty strict about this, and failing to report work can result in overpayment issues. It's smart that you're planning ahead - having all this information before you need it will definitely help if you face this situation!

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Jake Sinclair

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I'm 62 and currently employed but watching this discussion closely since my industry has been going through layoffs. This has been such an educational thread! One thing I wanted to ask - for those who went through the process, did NYS Department of Labor require you to actively job search while collecting both unemployment and pension benefits? I know there are usually work search requirements for unemployment, but I'm wondering if having pension income affects those requirements at all. Also, did anyone run into issues with potential employers during interviews when they knew you were collecting pension? I'm concerned that some employers might assume you're not serious about working long-term if you're already receiving retirement benefits. It's great to see so many people sharing their real experiences here - it's making me feel much more prepared for what could be ahead.

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Ryder Greene

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Yes, you still have to meet all the standard work search requirements even when collecting both unemployment and pension - NYS Department of Labor doesn't waive those just because you have retirement income. You'll need to log your job search activities each week when you certify. As for employer perceptions during interviews, I did encounter some assumptions about my commitment level, but I found that emphasizing my experience, reliability, and genuine interest in contributing helped overcome those concerns. Many employers actually value older workers for our work ethic and stability. The key is being upfront about your situation if asked directly, but focusing the conversation on what you bring to the role. Don't let age or pension status discourage you from pursuing opportunities - there are definitely employers out there who see the value in experienced workers!

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Caleb Stark

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I'm 66 and went through this exact situation 18 months ago after being laid off from my accounting job of 25 years. The process was definitely confusing at first, but it's absolutely doable. A few things I learned that might help others: First, when you file your initial claim, NYS Department of Labor will send you a pension questionnaire (form IA 12.3) that you'll need to complete and return with documentation. Don't delay on this - it held up my benefits for an extra two weeks because I waited too long to send it back. Second, they calculate the reduction based on a weekly amount, so if you receive your pension monthly, they'll divide it by 4.33 to get the weekly figure. Third, even though my unemployment got reduced from $380 to $125 per week due to my pension, I was still eligible for the maximum 26 weeks of benefits. The reduced amount still helped significantly with my mortgage and utilities while I job searched. I eventually found part-time consulting work that worked perfectly with my semi-retirement goals. Don't let the reduction discourage you from filing - every bit helps during a job transition at our age!

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Sean Flanagan

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This is incredibly detailed and helpful information - thank you so much for sharing your experience! The specific details about form IA 12.3 and the timing are exactly what I needed to know. I had no idea about the 4.33 calculation for monthly pensions or that there could be delays if you don't return the questionnaire promptly. It's really encouraging to hear that you were still eligible for the full 26 weeks even with the reduced benefit amount. Your point about every bit helping during a job transition at our age really resonates with me. The fact that you found part-time consulting work that fits your semi-retirement goals gives me hope that there are good options out there. I'm definitely going to file and not let the potential reduction discourage me - $125 a week is still meaningful when you're covering basic expenses. Thanks again for taking the time to share such practical advice!

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I'm 63 and just got notice that my position will be eliminated in 6 weeks after 19 years with my current employer. This entire discussion has been incredibly valuable - thank you to everyone who shared their experiences! I'm eligible for my pension immediately and was planning to file for unemployment as well. Based on what I've read here, it sounds like the key steps are: 1) Get detailed documentation from HR showing employer vs employee pension contributions before I leave, 2) Be completely transparent on the initial unemployment filing about my pension plans, 3) Expect a 3-4 week delay while they review pension documentation, and 4) Be prepared for my unemployment to be reduced by the employer-contributed portion of my pension. Even with the reduction, having some income while job searching seems worth it. Has anyone dealt with this situation when you have advance notice of the layoff? I'm wondering if I should start gathering pension paperwork now or wait until after my last day of work to begin the process.

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Rita Jacobs

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You've done a great job summarizing the key steps from everyone's experiences! Having 6 weeks advance notice is actually a huge advantage - definitely start gathering your pension documentation now while you still have easy access to HR and payroll systems. I'd recommend getting that detailed breakdown letter showing employer vs employee contributions that others mentioned, plus any other pension-related paperwork you might need. You can't file for unemployment until after your last day of work, but having all the documentation ready will make the process much smoother. Some people also mentioned keeping multiple copies of everything since NYS Department of Labor sometimes "loses" paperwork. The fact that you're being so proactive about this puts you in a much better position than most people who get caught off guard by layoffs. Even with the benefit reduction, you'll have something coming in while you figure out your next steps, which is really valuable at our stage in life.

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