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Can you collect unemployment while on strike in California EDD?

So my union just voted to authorize a strike and I'm trying to figure out where I stand financially if we actually walk out. I work in manufacturing and we've been in contract negotiations for about four months now with zero movement from management. The strike vote passed overwhelmingly so I think this is actually happening. My question is whether I can collect unemployment while on strike in California. I know California EDD has specific rules about this stuff but I honestly can't find a straight answer anywhere. Some coworkers are saying yes you can file, others are saying absolutely not, and one guy insists it depends on whether the strike is 'labor-related' which sounds like circular logic to me. I've got maybe 6 weeks of savings which isn't going to cut it if this drags out. Our union does have a strike fund but I've heard it's pretty small — nowhere near what people's actual bills are. Has anyone navigated this specific situation before? What does California EDD actually say about collecting UI benefits during a labor dispute?

Short answer: no, you generally cannot collect California EDD unemployment benefits while you are on strike. The UI code in California has a specific labor dispute disqualification that kicks in when you're out of work because of a strike or lockout at your place of employment. Section 1262 of the California Unemployment Insurance Code is the relevant statute here. You're considered 'voluntarily unemployed' in the eyes of EDD during a strike because the labor dispute is the direct cause of your unemployment.

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So there's absolutely no path to benefits at all? Even if the strike goes on for months?

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There are some narrow exceptions I'll explain below, but as a general rule no, active strikers don't qualify. The disqualification lasts as long as the labor dispute continues at your workplace.

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This is correct. I work in HR and deal with these situations. The labor dispute disqualification is one of the stricter disqualifications in California UI law.

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I went through a strike two years ago in the warehouse sector and can confirm what the person above said. EDD denied my claim almost immediately when I listed 'labor dispute/strike' as the reason for unemployment. What I DIDN'T know at the time was that there are exceptions. If your employer hires permanent replacement workers and you're essentially locked out with no job to return to, the situation can change. Also if the strike ends and they refuse to reinstate you, THAT is when you can potentially claim UI. The during-strike period is the hard no.

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Wait so if they bring in scabs and essentially replace us permanently we might qualify?

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Exactly - once you've been permanently replaced you're no longer 'on strike' in the legal sense, you're unemployed through no fault of your own. That's a different calculation for EDD.

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this is really important info that most people on strike don't know about. the permanent replacement angle changes everything

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One thing worth knowing - even though you can't get UI while actively striking, you should still CONTACT EDD to understand your specific situation. The problem is reaching anyone there is a nightmare. When our plant had a work stoppage a while back I spent weeks trying to get through on the phone to ask questions and just kept hitting busy signals or getting disconnected. Someone in my Facebook group recommended Claimyr (claimyr.com) for getting through to an actual EDD agent. There's a video demo at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 that explains how it works. I was skeptical but I finally got a live person who walked me through exactly what my options were given my specific labor situation. Worth it just to get clarity.

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I didn't even think about calling EDD proactively before anything happens. Good idea to understand my situation before we actually walk out.

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does that claimyr thing actually work?? i've been trying to reach edd for something unrelated for like 3 weeks

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Yeah it genuinely worked for me. You basically stop trying to navigate the phone tree yourself and they handle the hold time. Got through in one try after weeks of failing on my own.

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WAIT. Everyone keeps saying you CAN'T collect but I collected during a strike in 2019??? I filed my weekly certifications and got paid for at least the first 3 weeks before EDD caught up and sent me a determination letter. So either the rules changed or something else was going on with my situation

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You likely received benefits initially because EDD doesn't always catch labor disputes immediately during the initial processing period. Once they investigate and identify the labor dispute disqualification, they issue that determination and then also potentially flag an overpayment for those weeks you were paid. Did you ever receive an overpayment notice after that?

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oh god. no i never did but now im scared. this was 5 years ago though

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EDD has 3 years typically to assess overpayments in most circumstances though there are exceptions. If it's been 5+ years you're probably fine but that's exactly why you don't want to file during an active strike.

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The exceptions to the labor dispute disqualification that actually matter in California: 1. You were LOCKED OUT by the employer (not striking voluntarily) - lockouts can qualify for UI 2. The strike ended but employer refuses to reinstate you 3. You are permanently replaced during the strike 4. You are not a member of the striking bargaining unit (like if you work in a totally different department that isn't part of the dispute) 5. The labor dispute ended but a separate condition prevents you from returning These are the main escape hatches. Your union's labor attorney should know all of these.

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Number 4 is interesting - we have some office workers who aren't in the union. Would THEY be able to claim if they're laid off because of the strike disrupting operations?

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Potentially yes! Employees not participating in or financing the labor dispute who are laid off as a collateral result might be able to claim. It gets complicated fast. EDD makes individual determinations in these cases.

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this is why you need a union lawyer not random internet advice lol no offense to anyone here

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my whole department is freaking out about this exact question. nobody has real savings and the strike fund is like $300 a week which wont even cover rent for most people. its genuinely scary. i feel for you OP

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Yeah $300/week from the strike fund is the number I've heard too. That's rough when rent alone is $1800+

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exactly and then theres car payments utilities food. people are going to have to make some really hard choices if this goes long

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Something people overlook: even if YOU can't collect UI during a strike, your SPOUSE or partner who becomes unemployed for an unrelated reason during this period absolutely can. Also, if you have a second job that you lose or have hours cut, you might be able to claim partial UI based on that separate employment. California EDD looks at each employment relationship somewhat separately in mixed situations.

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I actually do have a part-time weekend gig at a home improvement store. If they cut my hours am I saying my primary job is the strike situation and claiming on the part-time loss separately?

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You'd want to be very transparent with EDD about the full picture but yes, hours lost from an entirely separate employer due to reasons unrelated to your labor dispute could potentially be claimed. The strike disqualification applies to work at the struck employer.

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this is the most useful thing i've read in this whole thread honestly

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Has anyone actually READ the EDD strike FAQ? They have some info on their website. I found it when my brother's workplace had a dispute. It basically confirms everything being said here - labor dispute disqualification is real and lasts for the duration. The key phrase EDD uses is 'directly interested in the labor dispute' which determines who falls under the disqualification.

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I did look at the EDD site but it's honestly confusing to parse. Do you have a direct link to that FAQ?

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I don't have it bookmarked anymore but if you go to EDD.ca.gov and search 'labor dispute' it should come up. It's not super long but it does explain the directly interested standard.

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Former EDD employee here (left in 2023). The labor dispute disqualification is one of those areas that EDD adjudicators actually have to do real investigation on rather than just automated processing. When a strike happens, EDD typically gets notice from the employer AND sometimes from the union. They then make individual determinations. Here's the practical reality: most claims filed during active strikes get disqualified, but the investigation takes weeks sometimes. During that time you might see 'pending' status.

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So there would be an adjudication period before the formal denial comes through?

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Usually yes. You'd see something like 'adjudication in progress' similar to other disqualification investigations. EDD would likely send you a questionnaire asking about the circumstances of your unemployment. Answer it honestly. Lying or omitting the strike information could be considered fraud.

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this explains what happened with my 2019 situation that i mentioned above. i genuinely didn't realize the initial payments were pending investigation

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quick question does disability insurance (SDI) count separately from UI here? like if someone on strike got injured on a picket line could they file SDI??

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SDI is a completely different program administered through EDD and is based on whether you have a medical condition preventing work - it's not affected by the labor dispute disqualification which only applies to UI benefits. If someone was legitimately injured and their doctor certified disability, SDI could potentially apply regardless of strike status.

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oh wow ok that's actually really good to know

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Worth noting that picket line injuries and workers comp questions get complicated too. Union should have guidance on that.

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To add to what I said earlier about my experience - when our strike finally ended and we went back to work, a few coworkers who had been passed over for reinstatement (management claimed 'restructuring') filed UI immediately. Those claims went into adjudication, the former-employee type, and several of them were ultimately approved. The labor dispute disqualification ends when the dispute ends. After that point EDD evaluates your unemployment under normal criteria.

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This is actually reassuring to know. So even if we can't collect DURING the strike, if the company tries to screw people on reinstatement afterward there's a potential path.

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Exactly. And document everything - every communication about reinstatement, any offers or non-offers, dates, names. That documentation becomes critical if you end up filing after the strike and the company tries to claim you quit or refused suitable work.

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ugh this is depressing. California is supposed to be so worker friendly and yet striking workers get nothing? meanwhile the company keeps operating with scabs and suffers zero consequences. the system is broken

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The rationale from a policy standpoint is that UI is designed to help people who are unemployed through no fault of their own, and a strike is a 'voluntary' work stoppage even if compelled by terrible conditions. Whether you agree with that policy framing is another question. A few states have started changing this - New York modified their rules relatively recently.

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see and thats my point california should do the same. this is exactly why unions lose leverage

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this is a whole political debate that's probably above this forum's pay grade lol

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Coming back to the practical angle - OP said they have about 6 weeks savings. Here's what I'd do in your position: 1) Call EDD NOW before the strike starts to understand your specific situation (use Claimyr at claimyr.com to actually get through - it saved me hours of redial hell), 2) File any other claims you might legitimately qualify for like your part-time job situation, 3) Look into any emergency assistance programs your county has, 4) Check whether your health insurance has COBRA options lined up just in case. Getting clear information directly from EDD rather than guessing is the most valuable thing you can do right now.

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This is solid practical advice. Calling before the strike actually makes a lot of sense - get my baseline situation understood while I'm still employed.

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seconding the call EDD before idea. once a strike starts they're probably flooded with calls from your workplace anyway

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don't forget to check if your union has any partnership with local credit unions for emergency loans during strikes - some do

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I keep seeing people say 'call EDD' like that's easy lmao. I've been trying to reach them for a completely different issue for literally 6 weeks. You get the busy signal or the automated message that the office is experiencing high volume please try later. Try later never comes.

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This is exactly why I mentioned Claimyr earlier in the thread - claimyr.com with a demo video at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10. It's specifically built for the problem you're describing. I know it sounds like a weird solution but the EDD phone system is genuinely broken in a way that requires workarounds.

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ok fine I'll check it out. at this point I'd try anything

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yeah the EDD phone situation is notoriously bad. I've heard horror stories from coworkers who tried to resolve simple issues and gave up after weeks.

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One more thing that hasn't been mentioned: your union almost certainly has a legal defense fund or access to labor lawyers. Before the strike, get in front of one of those attorneys. They know California labor law and EDD rules specific to your industry. General internet advice (including mine) has limits - your specific union contract, your specific industry, and the specific nature of your labor dispute all matter for how EDD will evaluate claims. The labor dispute disqualification has nuances that an attorney who knows your situation can actually navigate.

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The union does have a legal team I think. I should probably reach out to them directly. This has been incredibly helpful but you're right that my specific situation has details that matter.

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And don't wait until you're out on the picket line to make that call. Union legal counsel can help you prepare NOW, understand your rights, and know what documentation to keep from day one.

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went through a 4 month strike in 2021. here's what actually got our family through: strike fund ($350/wk) + my wife's income + part time gig driving for a delivery app (gig income doesn't get reported the same way) + food bank twice a month. it was rough but we made it. the mental health toll was honestly the hardest part not even the money

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Thank you for sharing this. It's helpful to hear from someone who actually went through a long one. 4 months is really long.

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it tested everything. make sure your family is on board and has realistic expectations from day one. the solidarity is real but so is the financial grind

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the food bank mention is real - no shame in using those resources during a labor action. that's exactly what they're there for

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Wait I'm confused about something - if you're ON strike do you still have to do the weekly certifications and job search activities that EDD normally requires? Like are you expected to be applying to other jobs while on strike?

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Since you're disqualified from benefits during an active strike, the weekly certification question is somewhat moot - you wouldn't be receiving payments to certify for. However if you're filing based on some other qualifying reason (like the part-time job scenario mentioned above), then yes, normal ability and availability requirements apply and you'd need to be genuinely available for other work.

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ahhh ok so the whole certification system basically doesn't apply if you're disqualified at the base level. that makes sense

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Correct. The disqualification happens at the eligibility determination level, before weekly certification payments would be issued. You could still have a claim open in the system but it wouldn't pay out.

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OP come back and update us on what happens! These threads are always more useful when people report back on their actual experience. Good luck with the negotiations - hope it doesn't come to a strike at all and management gets realistic.

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Will do. Negotiations are resuming next week actually so fingers crossed we don't need any of this information. But I feel way more prepared now regardless of what happens. Thank you to everyone who responded - this thread was genuinely useful.

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Good luck. Document everything starting now regardless of outcome. Seriously - dates, what management says, every communication. You'll thank yourself later.

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solidarity. hope you get a fair contract without having to walk.

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