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Can you collect short term disability and unemployment at the same time? California EDD question

So my situation is kind of complicated and I'm not sure which program even applies to me right now. Got laid off from my warehouse job about six weeks ago and filed for unemployment with California EDD right away. Got my DE 429Z showing my weekly benefit amount and started certifying. Here's the thing though — I threw out my back pretty badly about two weeks into collecting and my doctor has me on restricted activity, can't lift more than ten pounds, can't stand for more than 30 minutes at a time. My job was physically demanding so obviously I couldn't go back even if they called me. What I'm wondering is can you collect short term disability and unemployment at the same time? Because right now I have both situations going on — the job loss AND the injury. I tried calling EDD to ask but couldn't get through. UI Online shows my recent weeks as Pending and I don't know if that's because of the work search stuff or what. If anyone's been in a situation where they got hurt while already on unemployment I'd really like to know what happened with your claim.

DE 1101CZ is the form your former employer got when you filed, but that's not what matters here. What matters with your question is that EDD has a hard rule: the same days can't be paid by both unemployment insurance and State Disability Insurance. You can file for both programs, but EDD will only pay from one at a time. So once your doctor certified you as disabled, the right move is to stop certifying for unemployment and open a Disability Insurance claim instead — because unemployment requires you to be able and available for work every single week you certify, and if your back has you on restrictions, you likely can't honestly say that.

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Okay that makes a lot more sense now. So the pending weeks in UI Online — could those be flagged because I certified while already under the doctor's restrictions? I did certify for one week after my doctor told me to take it easy.

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Hard to say exactly what triggered the pending status since EDD doesn't detail that in UI Online — it just shows Pending. But certifying for a week when you couldn't truly be available for full-time physical work is the kind of thing that can cause a hold. Worth contacting EDD to clarify those weeks.

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the doctor restrictions thing is so important and people miss it all the time, glad someone spelled it out clearly here

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Filing for Disability Insurance while unemployment weeks are pending is actually how a lot of people handle this transition. You file for DI through SDI Online — that's a separate system from UI Online — and you can file as early as nine days after the disability starts, but no later than 49 days after. If you wait too long you lose those weeks entirely. The DI benefit also comes from a different fund — it's SDI, the deduction on your paycheck — so it's a completely different calculation than your unemployment weekly amount.

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Wait so SDI is the thing taken out of my paycheck every pay period? I always wondered what that was for. So I should have been filing for that instead of unemployment once I got hurt?

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Exactly, the CASDI line on your old pay stubs is what funded your DI eligibility. And yes, once the injury made you unable to do your normal work, DI becomes the right fit. Unemployment is for people able and looking for work; DI is for people who physically can't work right now.

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didnt know casdi covered disability I always thought it was just some random deduction lol

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Warehouse job on the books for a couple years before the layoff — that background actually matters here. EDD denied my DI claim initially because they said I hadn't filed in time, and I had no idea about the 49-day window. Getting that sorted out took forever because I couldn't get anyone on the phone at the main EDD line. Used Claimyr (claimyr.com) to get through to a live EDD agent — there's a video explaining how reaching a live person at EDD by phone actually works at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10. The agent pulled up my claim and told me my DI filing date had been recorded wrong in the system, which was why the denial went out. She corrected the date and told me to watch for a new Notice of Determination by mail. That was the actual fix — without talking to someone directly I'd have had to appeal blind.

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The 49-day deadline is something I did not know about at all. If my injury was two weeks ago I should be okay still, right? And I'm guessing SDI Online is where I go to start the DI claim?

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Two weeks in you're still inside the window, so file through SDI Online as soon as you can. Don't wait because every day matters when you're close to that outer limit.

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my DI claim also had a wrong date issue, took me calling three times before anyone fixed it

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People mix up the programs a lot and end up in a mess. The short version: unemployment = you lost your job AND you can work, you're just looking. Disability = you can't work right now due to health. When you're injured mid-claim like the original poster, you kind of fall out of unemployment eligibility because that able-and-available requirement isn't met. The fix is switching to DI, not trying to run both at once.

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Is there any crossover period though? Like the week the injury happened, can they split it somehow?

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EDD decides how to handle the transition week — it's not something anyone can calculate in advance. That's genuinely a question for EDD directly since it depends on the specific dates on the claim.

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The transition week is what I'm most worried about honestly because that's the week I certified even with the doctor's note in hand.

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Something worth knowing: when you stop certifying for unemployment to switch to DI, your unemployment claim doesn't disappear. The benefit year stays open. If you recover from your injury before your benefit year ends, you can reopen the existing unemployment claim — EDD has a process for that through UI Online. You don't have to start from scratch. The base period and weekly amount from the original DE 429Z would still apply to the remaining weeks.

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That's actually a huge relief to hear. So the UI claim just kind of sits there waiting while DI covers me?

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Essentially yes. The 52-week benefit year on your unemployment claim keeps running whether or not you're certifying. When you're medically cleared and looking for work again, you reopen it rather than filing a whole new claim.

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I wish I had known this last year. I let my benefit year lapse because I thought I had to file all over again when I got better.

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BOTH PENDING AND NOW INJURED is basically the worst combo for a UI claimant and I feel this post in my soul. EDD's phone lines are absolutely brutal when you have an urgent situation and need actual answers. Had a similar crossover issue — hurt myself two months into collecting — and spent three weeks trying to get a human being on the line. The hold music alone probably cost me brain cells.

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How did yours end up getting resolved? Did EDD eventually fix the pending weeks or did they just deny them?

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Mine got paid eventually after I sent a message through UI Online explaining the medical situation. Took about three weeks after that message. Not fast but it did work.

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three weeks for a message response is somehow better than what most people report lol

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Filing the DI claim right — the doctor's statement is the most important part. Your physician has to complete their section of the DI claim confirming your diagnosis, the start date of the disability, and when they expect you to be able to return to work. If the doctor's section is incomplete or vague, EDD can delay or deny the DI claim. Make sure your doctor is specific about functional limitations, not just 'patient has back pain.

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My doctor gave me a pretty detailed note but I don't know if that translates to what SDI Online actually needs. Is it a specific form the doctor fills out?

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There's a physician section built into the SDI Online claim — your doctor fills it out electronically or gets a paper form depending on how their office handles it. When you file your part of the claim online, EDD sends the doctor their section. So make sure your doctor knows to expect it and actually completes it promptly.

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my doctor's office forgot to submit their section and my claim sat for weeks, definitely remind them

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CalJOBS registration — did you get the notice about that when you first filed unemployment? Because if you're on DI now you don't need to worry about work search, but if those pending unemployment weeks ever do get paid you want to make sure you weren't out of compliance on the work search and CalJOBS requirements during the weeks you were actively on UI.

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I did register in CalJOBS right after I got the DE 8405 notice, within the first couple weeks. But honestly I hadn't been doing much active job searching once my back went out. Does that affect those pending weeks?

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Whether you were able and available and genuinely looking for work during those pending weeks is exactly what EDD could ask about in a phone interview if one gets scheduled. Being honest about your physical limitations during those weeks is the right call even if it means some of them don't get paid.

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This is accurate — availability for work isn't something you can sort of meet. You either could work that week or you couldn't, and certifying that you could when a doctor had restricted you is the kind of thing that creates problems later.

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Okay I want to make sure I understand because I might be in a similar situation soon. If someone files for DI while UI weeks are still pending, does EDD automatically pause the UI claim or does the claimant have to do something specific to stop it?

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You stop certifying for unemployment when you switch to DI. You don't certify for UI during weeks you're on DI. EDD's systems eventually reconcile it, but the claimant's action is to simply not submit UI certifications for the weeks covered by DI.

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Got it, so I'd stop certifying through Tele-Cert or UI Online and just focus on the DI process. Makes sense.

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Exactly that. And keep whatever documentation your doctor gives you because EDD may ask for more information about the transition period.

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There's one thing that tripped up my DI claim that I haven't seen mentioned: the waiting period. DI has a seven-day waiting period from when the disability starts before benefits kick in. So even if your claim is approved, the first week isn't paid. It's similar to the waiting week on a UI claim. Your first DI payment would cover the second week of disability and onward.

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So basically both programs have an unpaid first week? That's rough. Does that mean I'll have a gap with no payment at all during the transition?

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Potentially yes, there's usually a gap during the switchover. That's just the reality of moving between the two programs. It's not forever but it's something to plan around financially.

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the double waiting week situation is brutal and I don't think EDD explains this clearly anywhere upfront

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been lurking this thread and learned more here than in like 45 minutes on EDD's website tbh. one thing I'm unclear on still — when the OP reopens their unemployment claim after recovering, do they have to re-register in CalJOBS or is the original registration still good?

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CalJOBS registration doesn't expire the same way a claim does. Your account stays there. When you reopen the UI claim you'd just need to make sure your profile and resume are still current in the system.

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okay good, I was worried I'd have to do that whole process again from scratch

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EDD's website has an Unemployment Benefit Calculator if you want to compare what your UI weekly amount might have been versus what DI might pay. They're calculated differently — UI comes from your highest paid quarter in the base period, DI is calculated as a percentage of your wages from your base period. For some people DI pays more, for others less. Worth looking at before you fully commit to the switch mentally.

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I hadn't even thought about comparing the amounts. My DE 429Z shows my UI weekly amount but I have no idea what DI would come out to.

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EDD has a DI benefit calculator on its site too. Put in your quarterly wages and it'll give you an estimate. The actual amount comes in your DI claim determination but the calculator gives you a ballpark.

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This is the kind of practical info that should be in EDD's FAQ and somehow isn't. I had no idea the two programs used different calculations until I was already on DI and confused about why the amount was different.

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What happens if EDD decides those pending UI weeks shouldn't be paid because of the availability issue — does the OP get a Notice of Determination for each week, or just one notice covering all the pending weeks?

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Usually one Notice of Determination covers the issue, not individual week-by-week notices. The notice explains the reason and comes with the Appeal Form DE 1000M. If it goes that route, there's a 30-day window from the mailing date to appeal in writing.

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Okay that's helpful, so it would be one notice with an appeal option rather than a pile of separate denials.

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I really hope it doesn't get to that point but it's good to know there's an appeal path if EDD denies those weeks. I'd want to explain the medical situation on record somewhere.

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The appeal process for denied UI weeks — it's worth knowing that you can still certify during an appeal even while EDD has denied the weeks. EDD can only pay back those weeks if they were certified. So don't stop certifying just because a denial comes in, until you're actually on DI full time.

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Wait so I should keep certifying UI even if I get a denial notice, as long as I'm still appealing? Or does that conflict with switching to DI?

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Once you're on DI you stop certifying UI. But if the denial is for the past pending weeks and you're appealing those specific weeks, those are already certified. The keep-certifying-during-appeal advice applies to future weeks on a live UI claim, not past ones already certified.

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This distinction matters a lot — past certified weeks that are denied can be appealed without additional certifications needed. You're appealing what was already submitted.

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Two months into my own DI claim right now, actually used Claimyr to reach EDD when my DI payments suddenly stopped showing up in UI Online after three weeks of normal payment. The agent looked at the claim and found that my doctor's recertification — my doctor was supposed to extend the disability period — hadn't been received yet. EDD was waiting on the medical update before releasing the next payment. I called my doctor's office the same day and they sent it in.

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Didn't know doctors have to recertify disability for DI. How often does that happen?

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It depends on what your doctor estimated for recovery time. If they said you'd be out four weeks and you're still disabled at four weeks, they have to submit a new medical certification extending it. EDD waits for that before continuing payments.

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The original question — can you collect short term disability and unemployment — I've seen people on other forums say yes you can run them simultaneously and that is completely wrong. EDD's own language is clear that the same days can't be paid by both. Anyone telling you otherwise is probably thinking of a different state's rules or confusing DI with something else entirely.

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yeah I've seen that bad info too, people assume that because they're different programs they can stack them. they can't.

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Correct. File for both if you're in a gray area situation, but EDD decides which one applies to each day and won't pay from both simultaneously. The programs are designed to cover different circumstances, not to double-pay the same period.

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Glad I asked here before I did something wrong assuming I could get both at once. Would have made the pending situation way worse.

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My pending weeks resolved after about five weeks total — from my experience the hold was because EDD needed to verify my identity even though I'd already done the ID.me step. Got a DE 1326C in the mail, did the ID.me process again through a link in the notice, and within about a week the pending weeks updated. Not saying that's what's going on with the original post but pending status can have more than one cause.

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I did get verified through ID.me when I first applied so I don't think that's my issue. But useful to know for other people reading this.

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Worth double-checking your Claim History in UI Online just in case. Sometimes the identity verification shows as an action needed there even if you thought you were already clear.

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After about three weeks on DI I tried calling the SDI line to ask when my next payment was coming, and I honestly cannot believe how many times I got disconnected. Ended up using Claimyr the third time around and an agent told me my bank had rejected the direct deposit because the account number on file was an old closed account. Fixed it in myEDD and the payment came through within a couple days after that.

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How do you update direct deposit for DI? Is that also in myEDD or is SDI a separate login?

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myEDD handles it — the same place you manage your UI Online access. Payment method settings are in there for both programs from what the agent told me.

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SDI Online and UI Online are separate systems but myEDD kind of sits above both of them. Worth logging in there to verify your payment method when you file the DI claim.

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For the original poster's specific situation — back injury, warehouse work, already on UI — the practical order of steps is probably: stop certifying for UI starting from the week you became unable to work, file for DI through SDI Online covering from the injury date, make sure your doctor completes their section promptly, and then contact EDD about those already-certified pending weeks to explain the medical situation. UI Online's message feature or the phone line at 1-800-300-5616 (weekdays 8 to 5) are your two main ways to do that.

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This is basically the action plan I needed. Thank you. I'm going to file the DI claim today and send a message through UI Online about those certified weeks where I was already on doctor's orders.

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Sounds right. Keep records of everything — the date your doctor restricted you, the DI filing date, any messages you send through UI Online. If EDD ever questions the transition period you'll want to show the timeline clearly.

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The timeline documentation point is really important. EDD's phone interview, if one gets scheduled about those pending weeks, goes a lot better when you have exact dates rather than 'around when I got hurt.

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Rooting for a smooth DI approval and a quick answer on those pending UI weeks. The back injury on top of a layoff is a rough hand to be dealt.

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