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Liam O'Connor

Am I eligible for unemployment if I get fired in California?

So I just got let go from my job yesterday and I'm in full panic mode trying to figure out what my options are. I worked at the same company for about 4 years in logistics and my manager called me in and basically said they were 'restructuring' but then my paperwork says I was terminated for 'performance issues.' I'm honestly confused about which one is true and whether it even matters for my California EDD claim. I've heard that if you get fired you might not qualify for unemployment but I really don't know if that's accurate. The thing is I never got any written warnings, no performance improvement plan, nothing like that before this. I have a mortgage and two kids so I really need to figure out if am i eligible for unemployment if i get fired or if I'm just completely out of luck here. Anyone been through something like this? What happened with your claim?

First thing you need to understand is that in California, being fired does NOT automatically disqualify you from unemployment benefits. The key question California EDD asks is WHY you were fired. If you were laid off for restructuring or lack of work, you're almost certainly going to be approved. Even if they call it a termination for performance, California EDD will investigate and look at whether your employer can prove you did something called 'misconduct' under California unemployment law. Simple poor performance, mistakes, or not meeting expectations is usually NOT considered misconduct. You have to have done something willful and deliberate that violated your employer's interests. So the fact that you got no warnings and no PIP actually works strongly in your favor.

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This is really helpful, I didn't realize there was a legal definition of misconduct that's different from what my employer wrote on the paperwork. So I should still file even with the termination for performance reason listed?

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Yes absolutely file immediately. Don't wait. California EDD will send a questionnaire to both you and your employer. Just be honest about what happened and let them make the determination. The worst they can say is no, and then you can appeal.

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this is right, my cousin got fired for attendance issues and still got unemployment approved because the employer couldn't show it was intentional misconduct

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I went through almost the exact same situation two years ago. Fired for 'performance' with zero documentation from my employer. I filed right away and California EDD did put my claim in adjudication for about 5 weeks while they investigated. It was stressful but I was eventually approved. The adjudication process basically means California EDD is investigating your eligibility and getting statements from your former employer. Just make sure when you fill out your initial claim you explain your side clearly and honestly. Don't embellish but don't undersell what happened either.

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5 weeks in adjudication sounds terrifying honestly. Were you able to get anyone at California EDD on the phone during that time or were you just waiting and hoping?

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I tried calling probably 30 times. Got through twice. It was brutal. Eventually someone on a forum like this told me about Claimyr which I wish I had known about from the start. It's a service at claimyr.com that basically gets you connected to a live California EDD agent without you sitting on hold for hours. There's even a demo video at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 that shows how it works. I used it to actually get a straight answer on where my adjudication stood instead of just watching my online status and guessing.

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wait so you actually got through to someone?? I've been trying to reach california edd for 2 weeks about my claim and can't get anyone. looking up claimyr right now

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OK so here's the actual breakdown of California unemployment eligibility when you're fired: 1. You need to meet BASE PERIOD earnings requirements (earned enough wages in your base period quarters) 2. The termination reason matters - California EDD looks at whether there was 'misconduct connected with work' 3. Misconduct has a LEGAL definition in California - it has to be willful, substantial disregard of employer's interests 4. Poor performance alone, honest mistakes, inability to do the job = NOT misconduct = likely eligible 5. Theft, deliberate insubordination, harassment, intentional policy violations = misconduct = likely disqualified Based on what you described (conflicting reasons, no documentation, no warnings) I'd say your chances of being approved are pretty decent. File your claim at edd.ca.gov and be thorough in your explanation.

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This is exactly the kind of breakdown I needed. The base period earnings thing - I've been working full time for 4 years so I should definitely meet that threshold right?

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Almost certainly yes. The base period is typically the first 4 of the last 5 completed calendar quarters before you file. With 4 years of full time employment you should have no problem meeting the wage requirements. The minimum is actually pretty low in California, just a few hundred dollars earned in the base period.

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also make sure you file ASAP because your benefit year starts from when you file not when you were fired. every week you wait is potentially money you can't get back

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am i eligible for unemployment if i get fired - yes generally in california but it depends on misconduct like others said. i got fired last year and was scared to even apply but glad i did

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Did your claim go through adjudication too? That seems to be the scary part for fired workers.

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yeah mine was in adjudication like 3 weeks but got approved. just gotta be patient

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I want to flag something important here because I see a lot of people get tripped up on this. When California EDD sends you their questionnaire about your separation from work, DO NOT just write a few sentences. Be detailed. Explain the timeline, what was said to you, what documentation exists or doesn't exist. The more context you give them the better. California EDD agents reviewing these cases often have hundreds of files and you want yours to be clear and complete so they don't have to guess.

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That's a great point - I was going to keep it brief because I figured shorter was less likely to raise red flags but you're saying the opposite?

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Exactly the opposite. You want to tell your story. If there were no warnings, say that explicitly. If the stated reason contradicts what your manager told you verbally, mention that. If you were never given a performance improvement plan or any formal documentation, state that clearly. These things matter in the adjudication process.

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agreed 100%. my first claim i was super vague and got denied. appealed with way more detail and won. lesson learned the hard way

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this is really good advice. i think people are scared to say too much but being thorough is definitely better

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Honestly the fact that your paperwork says performance issues but your manager said restructuring is actually really significant. That kind of inconsistency usually benefits the claimant. California EDD is looking at what the REAL reason was. If the employer can't keep their story straight that undermines their ability to prove misconduct. Document what your manager said to you verbally if you can. Write it down now while it's fresh.

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I actually have a text from my manager the day before saying they were doing departmental changes. Is that something I should mention in my claim?

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Yes absolutely keep that text. You may need it if your claim goes to an appeal hearing. California EDD appeals can feel very formal but they're not full court proceedings. Having documentation that contradicts the stated termination reason is valuable evidence.

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This is spot on. Inconsistent employer statements are huge. Save every communication you have from your employer around the time of termination.

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I need to jump in here because I work in HR (not for California EDD obviously) and one thing that trips people up is this: even if your employer CALLS it a performance termination, California EDD makes their OWN determination. They will contact your employer and ask specific questions. If the employer says you were fired for being late 3 times, California EDD looks at - was there a written attendance policy, were you warned, were others treated the same way. The whole process is actually more thorough than people think. Don't assume your employer's characterization automatically wins.

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That's actually really reassuring to hear from someone in HR. I was worried my employer could just say whatever and California EDD would take their word for it.

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Employers have to substantiate their claims of misconduct. Vague statements about performance rarely hold up in adjudication. California EDD has heard every excuse in the book from employers trying to avoid their UI tax rates going up.

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wait employers taxes go up when people claim unemployment off them?? that explains why some companies fight claims so hard

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Yes, it's called UI experience rating. Employers pay higher unemployment insurance tax rates if their former employees successfully claim benefits. That's why some employers contest claims aggressively even when they know they won't win.

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Just want to share my experience since it sounds similar to yours. I was fired 8 months ago from a tech company, they said it was a 'performance separation' but I had consistently good reviews for 3 years and then suddenly after a new manager came in I was out the door within 2 months. California EDD approved my claim after adjudication. The whole time I was in adjudication I was a nervous wreck trying to get updates and couldn't reach anyone by phone. A coworker recommended Claimyr and I finally got through to an actual California EDD agent who confirmed my claim was under review and told me approximately what to expect. Just having that information made the waiting so much easier. You can find it at claimyr.com, definitely worth it when you're stuck in adjudication limbo.

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How long were you in adjudication and did California EDD ask you for additional documentation or anything after you filed?

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About 6 weeks for me. They did send me a notice asking for more information about the circumstances of my separation. Just answered honestly and thoroughly. That plus the agent call I got through Claimyr helped me understand where things stood.

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6 weeks is so long. I would be losing my mind. At least having some way to get actual information from california edd would help

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okay wait I have a question that might be dumb but - when you're in adjudication do you still have to file your weekly certifications? Like do you keep doing those even when you don't know if you're approved or not?

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Not a dumb question at all and YES this is super important. You MUST continue filing your weekly certifications even while in adjudication. If your claim is eventually approved, you'll receive back pay for all the weeks you certified. If you stop certifying during adjudication you could lose those weeks permanently.

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oh wow okay I did NOT know that. I'm in adjudication right now and I have been certifying but I wasn't sure if it was pointless. good to know it actually matters

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This is one of the most common mistakes people make. They go into adjudication and assume there's no point in certifying until they hear back. Always keep certifying every week. It's non-negotiable.

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something nobody mentioned yet - make sure when you answer the job search questions in your weekly certifications you're actually doing the required job search activities. in california you need to do 3 job search activities per week. a lot of people who get approved for their initial claim then get into trouble because they're not meeting the ongoing requirements

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Oh I didn't even think about ongoing requirements. So once I'm approved I need to be actively job searching every week?

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Yes, 3 job search activities per week. This can include submitting applications, attending a networking event, registering on CalJOBS, doing an interview, etc. Keep a log of all of them with dates and employer info. California EDD can audit your job search records.

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CalJOBS registration is also sometimes a requirement depending on your claim situation. Worth doing early just to have it done.

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I've seen a lot of posts like this and want to address the fear people have about applying when fired. I completely understand the fear because I had it too. But here's the reality: NOT filing is definitely losing. Filing gives you a chance. The system is designed with protections for workers, not just employers. California has some of the more worker-friendly unemployment laws in the country. If you were let go under circumstances where you had no intent to harm your employer and just couldn't meet expectations or the reasons were murky, the system will likely work in your favor.

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This is genuinely reassuring. I keep going back and forth between 'just file' and 'don't bother, you got fired, you won't get it

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File. Today if possible. The mental clarity of knowing you're in the process beats sitting on the sideline wondering. And if you do get denied you can appeal. The appeal process exists specifically so that initial errors can be corrected.

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agreed just file. worst case denied then you appeal. best case approved and you have income while job hunting

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Random question for the thread - if someone is in adjudication and they find a new job before the claim is resolved, do they still get back benefits for the weeks they were unemployed before the new job? Like does getting a new job void the whole claim?

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Great question and the answer is no - getting a new job doesn't void your previous claim. If your claim is approved, you would receive benefits for the weeks between your termination and when you started your new job (assuming you were certifying those weeks). Once you start working again you just stop certifying and report your new employment.

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Oh that's good to know. So the weeks I was unemployed I'd still get paid for even if I'm employed by the time they approve it?

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Correct. California EDD pays for weeks of actual unemployment. If you certify weekly and report zero earnings during those weeks, and the claim is eventually approved, you receive benefits for those specific weeks regardless of your current employment status when the approval comes through.

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this thread is super helpful im in a similar situation. fired last week, no warnings, they just said my position was eliminated but my termination letter says resignation which is NOT what happened and i absolutely did not resign. is that fraud on their part??

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That's a serious issue actually. If your employer coded a termination as a resignation that's potentially unemployment insurance fraud on their part and can affect your eligibility since 'quitting' usually does disqualify you. You need to be very clear in your claim that you did NOT resign, you were terminated. California EDD will investigate the discrepancy.

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okay yeah im going to be very clear about that. I have emails from the day of where they told me my last day was being set, nothing about me resigning. so i have proof thank god

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Document everything. Employers who miscategorize terminations as resignations to avoid UI claims are playing a risky game. Report it accurately and let California EDD sort it out. The documentation you have sounds solid.

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I got denied my first time filing after being fired. Went to the appeal hearing and WON. Just want people to know the appeal process is real and it works. The hearing is over the phone, a neutral administrative law judge listens to both sides. My employer didn't even have documentation for the misconduct they claimed so the judge ruled in my favor pretty quickly. Don't give up if you get denied.

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How long did the whole appeal process take from denial to hearing?

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About 8 weeks from when I filed the appeal to when I had the hearing. Then the decision came about 2 weeks after that. So roughly 10 weeks total but I received back benefits for all the weeks I had certified during that time once I won.

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10 weeks is a long time but knowing you can recover back benefits makes it worth pursuing if you're wrongly denied

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can we talk about something - I tried calling california edd literally every single day for three weeks when my claim was in adjudication and could not get through once. I would call redial redial for 3 hours and either busy signal or get disconnected after 45 minutes on hold. it was genuinely one of the most stressful experiences of my life and I felt completely abandoned by the system

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The phone situation at California EDD is genuinely terrible and has been for years. That's exactly why I started using Claimyr. It's specifically designed for getting through to California EDD when normal calling doesn't work. You just go to claimyr.com and they handle the hold time for you and call you when an agent is available. The demo video at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 shows the whole thing. I felt the same way you did before I found it.

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I'm checking that out right now. At this point I'd try anything to get an actual human being at California EDD on the phone. The uncertainty of not knowing anything about your claim is almost worse than the financial stress.

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The lack of accessible phone support from California EDD has been a chronic problem. Services that help bridge that gap are genuinely useful for claimants who need answers during adjudication.

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UPDATE: I went ahead and filed my initial claim today after reading through all of this. The online process was actually pretty straightforward. I explained the discrepancy between what my manager told me and what the paperwork says, noted there were no written warnings or PIPs in my employment history, and was thorough like everyone suggested. It's showing as pending now. They said to expect a notice within 10 business days. I'll keep certifying every week and document my job search. Thank you everyone for the help, this thread genuinely made a scary process feel manageable.

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Good luck! You did everything right by filing promptly and being thorough. Keep those weekly certifications coming and document your job search. Hopefully this moves through quickly without needing adjudication but even if it goes into adjudication you know what to expect now.

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Rooting for you. The fact that you had inconsistent employer documentation about the reason for separation is genuinely in your favor. Keep records of everything from here on out.

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Great move filing right away. That benefit year start date matters. Check your UI Online account regularly for any notices that need action and respond to anything California EDD sends you promptly. Fast responses = faster resolution.

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fingers crossed for a smooth process for you! and remember if anything goes sideways during adjudication you can always get someone on the phone through Claimyr instead of losing your mind trying to call california edd directly

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One more thing nobody mentioned - after you file your claim, California EDD will mail you a Notice of Computation showing your weekly benefit amount. Don't panic if the number seems lower than expected. It's calculated from your base period wages. Also check the address on your account is correct because mailed notices are important and you don't want them going to a wrong address.

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Oh good tip about the address. I moved about a year ago and need to double check what address is on file with California EDD.

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You can update it in your UI Online account under account settings. Do that before any notices go out so you don't miss anything important.

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Also set up email notifications if you haven't already. California EDD will email you when there are new notices in your inbox so you don't have to check the portal manually every day.

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Just want to throw in that the job search requirement (3 activities per week) has some nuance. Applying for jobs you're genuinely qualified for is the main thing. Don't just spam applications to hit the number - California EDD wants you to be making real efforts to find comparable work. Also the CalJOBS registration is separate from your job search log but I believe you need both depending on your situation.

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Correct. CalJOBS is California's job search platform and registering there is often required. You can actually use your CalJOBS registration AS one of your job search activities in the week you register. But after that you need to be doing actual applications, interviews, networking etc.

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Right, and keep the dates and employer names for every application because if California EDD audits your job search log and you can't produce documentation you could face disqualification even if you were genuinely looking.

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coming back to the original question because I think it gets lost in all the detail - yes you can absolutely get unemployment in california if you get fired, as long as you weren't fired for deliberate misconduct. most firings for performance, restructuring, personality conflicts, inability to do the job - these don't rise to legal misconduct. you have to do something like steal from your employer or intentionally violate a major policy to get denied on misconduct grounds. the bar is actually pretty high.

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This summary is super helpful. I think I was imagining the bar was much lower than it actually is.

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Most people do. The word 'misconduct' sounds scary but legally it has a very specific meaning that protects most fired workers. If you're honest in your claim and your circumstances are what you described, you have a very reasonable shot at approval.

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Well said. California's definition of misconduct is narrower than most people expect. The burden is also on the EMPLOYER to prove misconduct, not on you to prove you didn't commit it. That's an important distinction.

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