Extending baby bonding time beyond 8 weeks PFL - what are my options?
I'm currently on PFL for baby bonding with my 2-month-old daughter and the 8 weeks is going by WAY too fast! I'll be hitting my 8-week mark next Friday and I'm honestly not ready to go back to work yet. Does anyone know if there's a way to extend beyond the standard 8 weeks of Paid Family Leave for more bonding time? My HR department wasn't super helpful - just said 'that's all California offers.' But I've heard some people take longer leaves? I work for a mid-size tech company (about 130 employees) if that matters. Any advice on how to get more time with my baby would be so appreciated!
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Marcus Marsh
The short answer is no, you can't extend the 8 weeks of PFL benefits for baby bonding specifically. California caps it at 8 weeks total. However, you do have a few options: 1. FMLA/CFRA - If you haven't used up all your FMLA/CFRA time (12 weeks total), you can take the remaining weeks unpaid but with job protection 2. Use accrued PTO/vacation time - Many employers allow this after PFL ends 3. Negotiate unpaid leave - Some companies offer additional unpaid leave beyond what's legally required 4. Check if your company offers any supplemental parental leave benefits beyond the state program Also worth noting: if you didn't use any pregnancy disability leave before birth, you've likely only used PFL for your 8 weeks of bonding. The 8 weeks is per 12-month period, so technically you could take 4 weeks now and save 4 weeks for later, though this isn't ideal for continuous bonding time.
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Katherine Shultz
•Thank you so much for the detailed response! I did use 4 weeks of PDL before birth and 4 weeks after, then started PFL. I'll check with HR again about using some vacation time and maybe negotiate some unpaid leave. The thought of leaving my baby with someone else right now is giving me so much anxiety.
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Hailey O'Leary
I was in the EXACT same boat last year!!! The 8 weeks goes by in a flash 😠What I did was take the full 8 weeks PFL then I used 3 weeks of vacation time. Then I negotiated with my boss to work part-time for another month (so I was only away from baby 4 hours a day). It wasn't ideal but better than nothing! Also check your employee handbook - my company actually had an extended parental leave policy that HR didn't even mention until I specifically asked about it!
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Katherine Shultz
•That's really helpful! I hadn't even thought about asking for part-time hours for a transition period. I'll definitely look into that, and I'm going to review our handbook tonight to see if there's anything about extended leave. Thank you!!
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Cedric Chung
The 8 weeks of PFL is the maximum for baby bonding PAID leave from CA. But your company has to give you up to 12 weeks of job-protected leave under FMLA/CFRA (if they have 50+ employees and you've worked there long enough). So you should at least be able to take 4 more weeks unpaid with job protection. I took the full 12 weeks even though only 8 were paid.
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Talia Klein
•Actually this isnt completely accurate, FMLA and PDL and PFL all overlap so if you already used 8 weeks of disability leave plus 8 weeks of PFL you've already used more than 12 weeks of FMLA/CFRA. The 12 weeks isn't in addition to the other leaves.
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Talia Klein
Hey so I just went thru this whole process and called EDD like 50 times with questions. You absolutely CANNOT extend beyond 8 weeks of PFL for bonding. Thats the CA max. Period. What you CAN do is use CFRA time (thats the state version of FMLA) which gives you 12 weeks total of protected leave, but only 8 weeks of that is paid thru PFL. Also your employr might have their own maternity policy on top of the state stuff. Mine gave me an extra 4 weeks paid! Worth asking about.
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Maxwell St. Laurent
•Calling EDD is basically impossible these days. I spent HOURS trying to get through last month with questions about my PFL claim. If you're still needing to contact them, I found a service called Claimyr that gets you through to an EDD agent quickly. Totally worth it when I was desperate for answers about my claim. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/DOLxZQb92wM?si=6N1iCQ3a8Cdb2Ay5 and their website is claimyr.com. Saved me from pulling my hair out on hold all day!
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PaulineW
idk why everyone's saying you can't extend, my cousin totally did! she got 8 weeks plus another 8 weeks somehow. maybe ask about SDI extension or something? or maybe her work just had a good policy. but def possible! don't give up!!
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Marcus Marsh
•Your cousin likely used PDL (pregnancy disability leave) first, which can provide up to 4 weeks before birth and 6-8 weeks after birth for recovery if there were no complications (more if there were), and THEN took 8 weeks of PFL for bonding. They're separate benefits and that's standard. Or her employer offered supplemental paid leave on top of state benefits. But the state PFL benefit itself is capped at 8 weeks total for bonding, no exceptions.
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Annabel Kimball
The California system is SO FRUSTRATING sometimes!! I had my baby last year and the whole leave process was a nightmare to figure out. I ended up having to go back to work after my PFL ran out because we couldn't afford for me to take unpaid time. It felt way too soon. One thing no one mentioned yet - if you have any health issues (including postpartum depression or anxiety), your doctor might be able to extend your disability leave. I know someone who got an additional 4 weeks that way before starting her PFL bonding time. Just a thought!
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Katherine Shultz
•That's interesting about the medical extension. I have been struggling with some postpartum anxiety (hence my panic about leaving her so soon). I have an appointment with my doctor next week and I'll bring this up. Thank you for the suggestion!
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Chris Elmeda
my company lets us take 6 months off for new babies but only 3 months is paid. maybe look for a new job lol
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Katherine Shultz
•Wow, 6 months sounds amazing right now! What industry are you in, if you don't mind me asking?
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Marcus Marsh
To summarize your options since there's been some confusion in the thread: 1. You cannot extend the 8 weeks of PFL benefits - that's the maximum California offers for bonding time per 12-month period 2. You may still have CFRA protection remaining (12 weeks total, minus what you've used) but it would be unpaid 3. Your company may offer additional benefits - worth checking your employee handbook or asking HR specifically about extended parental leave policies 4. You can use accrued vacation/PTO after PFL ends 5. You can negotiate reduced hours or a phased return One thing to note is that if you're experiencing postpartum anxiety/depression as you mentioned, your doctor might be able to extend your disability leave, which would be separate from your bonding leave. This would be covered under PDL/SDI rather than PFL.
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Katherine Shultz
•Thank you SO much for summarizing everything. I talked to my supervisor today and she said they're open to me using 3 weeks of vacation and then potentially working part-time for a month as a transition. And I'm definitely going to talk to my doctor about the anxiety I've been experiencing. This community has been so helpful!
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