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Federal employee needing more baby bonding time - PFL options with FMLA already used?

I'm so confused about my baby bonding options as a federal employee! I've been on unpaid maternity leave for 12 weeks through FMLA, but I'm not ready to send my 3-month-old to daycare yet. My supervisor said I might be eligible for additional bonding time through California, but I'm pretty sure my federal job doesn't pay into CA SDI so I won't qualify for any paid benefits (which I'm fine with). I just desperately need more TIME with my baby before returning to work. Is there any way to get additional protected baby bonding leave beyond FMLA in California if I don't qualify for PFL? I keep hearing about 8 weeks of bonding time through PFL, but I don't think that applies to me as a federal worker. Has anyone navigated this successfully? I'd take more unpaid time if I could just get it approved and protected!

Monique Byrd

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You're correct that federal employees typically don't qualify for CA PFL since your employer doesn't pay into the state system. Baby bonding time under California law is primarily offered through PFL for qualifying employees. Your options might include: 1. Annual leave/vacation time 2. Requesting additional unpaid personal leave from your federal agency 3. Check your federal employee union contract if applicable - some have supplemental family leave benefits 4. Look into the Federal Employee Paid Leave Act if you're eligible Federal agencies have their own policies about extending leave beyond FMLA. Have you checked with your HR department specifically about their policies for extended parental leave?

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Thank you for confirming what I feared. I have checked with HR but they gave me such a vague answer about it being "at supervisor discretion." I've used all my annual leave already during these 12 weeks (combining it with LWOP). I'll look into the Federal Employee Paid Leave Act - though I'm not sure if that's retroactive or only applies to the initial leave period?

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Jackie Martinez

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i work for usps and went thru something similar last year... federal jobs def dont qualify for CA pfl but my supervisor let me take another 8 weeks unpaid after fmla was done. just had to sign something saying it was a personal leave of absence. dpeneds on ur boss tho some r jerks about it

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That's really helpful to know! Did you have to provide any specific reason or documentation for the personal leave of absence? My supervisor isn't the most flexible person but maybe if I knew the exact form or process to request this it would help.

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Lia Quinn

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As a federal employee myself who went through this last year, I can tell you that you're in a tough spot! The CA PFL doesn't apply to us, and it's INFURIATING! Federal agencies operate under their own rules and most don't participate in state disability programs. When I needed more time (and I REALLY needed it), my only option was to beg my supervisor for Leave Without Pay. Some agencies are more generous than others. Mine gave me an extra 4 weeks and acted like they were doing me the biggest favor in the universe. 🙄 The system is BROKEN when it comes to federal workers and parental leave. We fall through all the cracks in state programs!

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Haley Stokes

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Same experience here with DOD... had to literally plead for 4 extra weeks unpaid and my supervisor made me feel like I was asking for the moon. Ridiculous that we're so far behind on family leave policies.

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Asher Levin

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I work as an HR specialist who handles leave policies. Since you're a federal employee, you're right that you don't qualify for California PFL. However, there are a few potential avenues: 1. Federal Employee Paid Leave Act (FEPLA) provides 12 weeks of paid parental leave for eligible federal employees - but this replaces FMLA leave, not extends it, so it likely doesn't help in your current situation. 2. Request additional Leave Without Pay (LWOP) as an accommodation. While not legally required to grant this, many agencies have policies allowing additional unpaid time. 3. If you have a medical condition related to childbirth, you might qualify for Reasonable Accommodation under ADA. 4. Check your specific agency's policies - some have more generous leave sharing or leave bank programs. Your best path forward is to make a formal written request for additional LWOP specifically for baby bonding purposes. Reference any agency-specific work-life policies in your request.

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Thank you for the detailed response! This is really helpful. I don't have any medical issues that would qualify under ADA, just a strong desire to bond longer with my baby before returning to work. I'll check if my agency has a leave sharing program - I hadn't thought of that. And I'll definitely put my LWOP request in writing with specific reference to baby bonding.

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Serene Snow

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I had this EXACT problem last year with my federal job! I was so frustrated trying to get through to HR about extending my leave. They kept transferring me around and nobody could give me a straight answer about my options beyond FMLA. After wasting HOURS on hold and getting disconnected repeatedly, I finally used Claimyr to reach someone who could actually help. Even though I didn't qualify for PFL, they helped me reach the right department to discuss my federal leave options. I watched their demo (https://youtu.be/DOLxZQb92wM?si=6N1iCQ3a8Cdb2Ay5) and it was super easy. Within 30 minutes I was talking to a real person who helped me navigate my agency's extended leave policies. Saved me so much frustration!

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Does Claimyr actually work for federal employee stuff? I thought it was just for getting through to EDD for state benefits. Not sure how they'd help with federal HR departments? Was there an additional cost for this?

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Serene Snow

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They primarily help with EDD, but the person I spoke with had knowledge about how federal employees can navigate leave options too and directed me to the right resources. It's not specifically for federal HR, but helped me get actual answers after weeks of getting nowhere.

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Update: I had a meeting with my supervisor yesterday and she said they can approve an additional 6 weeks of unpaid leave as a personal leave of absence! Not as much time as I was hoping for, but definitely better than nothing. She said they're not obligated to hold my exact position, but they will guarantee a position at the same grade level when I return. I'm going to take it! Thank you all for your advice and sharing your experiences!

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Monique Byrd

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That's great news! Make sure to get all the details in writing, especially the part about guaranteeing a position at the same grade level. Congrats on the extra bonding time with your little one!

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Jackie Martinez

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congrats!! thats awesome news. def get it in writing tho, my friend got burned when her boss changed mind later

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I know this doesn't help your immediate situation, but I want to mention that there's currently legislation being considered to expand parental leave benefits for federal workers. If you're passionate about this issue (as it sounds like you are), consider contacting your representatives. The more federal employees who speak up about these gaps in coverage, the more likely we are to see meaningful change in the future. There's a Federal Employee Family Leave caucus that's specifically working on these issues.

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Thank you for mentioning this! I'm definitely going to look into advocacy around this issue. It's really opened my eyes to how complicated navigating parental leave can be, especially as a federal employee caught between different systems. I'll check out the Federal Employee Family Leave caucus.

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