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Dmitry Popov

Confused about PFL baby bonding eligibility - can I still get extra weeks after disability?

Just had my baby 2 weeks ago and trying to figure out this whole leave situation. My HR told me I don't qualify for baby bonding PFL because I've only been at my company for 9 months (not over a year). But I'm getting state disability right now for the recovery period (I think it's 6-8 weeks?). Is there any way I can still get those additional weeks of baby bonding time through EDD even if my company won't hold my job? I have savings to cover me financially for a while, I just want to maximize my time with the baby before going back. Can I apply for PFL baby bonding even though my employer says I'm not eligible? So confused about how this all works!

Ava Garcia

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There's a really important distinction here. Your employer is talking about job protection under FMLA/CFRA (which does require 12 months of employment), but that's completely separate from your eligibility for EDD PFL benefits! If you're currently receiving State Disability Insurance (SDI) for your pregnancy recovery, you absolutely CAN apply for the additional 8 weeks of baby bonding through EDD's Paid Family Leave program. The catch is that your job may not be protected during that time, but you'll still receive the benefit payments.

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Dmitry Popov

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Wait, so I CAN get the additional 8 weeks of money even though my job isn't protected? Do I need to file a separate application for that, or does it happen automatically after my disability ends?

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StarSailor}

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omg i had the EXACT same issue!! my job told me i wasnt eligible but i still got the money anyway. just apply online through the edd website. its separate from the disability thing

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Miguel Silva

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This is why everybody gets so confused with this stuff!!! Companies tell you one thing about "eligibility" but they're talking about job protection not the actual benefit money. It's so frustrating when HR departments don't explain this clearly. I went through the same thing last year and almost didn't apply because my HR made it sound like I wasn't allowed to get anything!!

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Zainab Ismail

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To clarify what others have said: PFL baby bonding eligibility through EDD is based on whether you've paid into SDI through your paychecks, not your length of employment. Since you're already receiving disability benefits, you definitely qualify financially for PFL. You'll need to file a separate claim for baby bonding using form DE2508 (or online through your EDD account) when your disability claim is getting ready to end. It doesn't transition automatically. Just be aware that without FMLA/CFRA job protection (which is what your employer was referring to with the 1-year requirement), they aren't obligated to hold your position. Some companies will still accommodate the additional time off, but others won't. I'd have a clear conversation with your HR about what happens if you take the additional 8 weeks.

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THIS!!! I wasted so much time being confused about this exact situation with my first baby in 2023! My employer kept saying I "didn't qualify" and I thought that meant I couldn't get ANY paid leave, but they were just talking about FMLA/CFRA. I ended up missing out on PFL money I could have had because I was so confused. The EDD and employers use the same words to mean totally different things!

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Yara Nassar

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i had my baby in January and had same issue!!! you DEF qualify for EDD benefits even if you dont get job protection. BUT you gotta call EDD to make sure it transitions right from disability to baby bonding. I waited 3 weeks with no money because the system messed up my application.

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Dmitry Popov

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Ugh, that's what I'm worried about - the transition getting messed up and being without income for weeks! How long did it take you to get through to EDD? I've heard horror stories about the phone lines.

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I had this EXACT issue last year but with my second baby. Here's what I did - I got the regular disability (6 weeks for vaginal birth, 8 weeks for c-section), and then SEPARATELY applied for the baby bonding PFL when my disability claim was about to end. My company wouldn't hold my job but I took the time anyway because I decided spending time with my baby was more important, and I just found a new job after. But every situation is different financially! Definitely apply - it's your money that you've been paying into the system!

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I tried calling EDD about 27 times last month when I was dealing with my transition from pregnancy disability to baby bonding. It's absolutely IMPOSSIBLE to get through! I finally used this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) and they got me connected to an actual EDD agent in about 20 minutes. They have a demo video so you can see how it works: https://youtu.be/DOLxZQb92wM?si=6N1iCQ3a8Cdb2Ay5 It made a huge difference because the EDD agent was able to fix my claim on the spot. I was so tired of trying to do everything online and getting nowhere for weeks.

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StarSailor}

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is that service legit?? i've been trying to call EDD for three days straight and keep getting disconnected

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Yeah it worked for me! Way better than spending hours redialing. The agent I got was super helpful and fixed my issue in like 10 minutes once I actually got through.

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Ava Garcia

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Just to wrap things up: yes, you can and should apply for PFL baby bonding even though your employer isn't required to hold your job. Here's what you need to do: 1. Continue your disability claim until it ends (typically 6-8 weeks postpartum depending on delivery type) 2. About 1-2 weeks before your disability ends, submit your claim for PFL baby bonding (form DE2508 or online) 3. Make sure you clearly understand from your employer whether they'll allow you to return after the additional 8 weeks of PFL (get this in writing if possible) 4. If they won't hold your position, decide if you still want to take the time (and benefits) knowing you'll need to find new employment after Don't miss out on benefits you're entitled to! Many new parents make this mistake because of confusing information from employers.

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Dmitry Popov

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Thank you all SO MUCH for the advice! I'm definitely going to apply for the baby bonding benefits. I'll talk to my employer again to see if they'd be willing to hold my position even without being legally required to, but at least I know I can get the benefit money either way. I'll start the application process about a week before my disability is scheduled to end. This has been incredibly helpful!

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Ethan Clark

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Just wanted to add my experience as someone who went through this exact situation! I was also confused about the difference between job protection and benefit eligibility. What really helped me was keeping detailed records of all my conversations with HR and getting everything in writing. When I asked my employer about taking the additional 8 weeks of PFL without job protection, they actually agreed to let me come back as long as I gave them 2 weeks notice before my planned return date. It never hurts to ask - some companies are more flexible than they initially let on, especially if you're a good employee. Also, make sure to check if your company has any supplemental leave policies beyond what's legally required. Mine had a "personal leave" option that could bridge the gap. Good luck with your new baby!

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This is such great advice about getting everything in writing! I'm definitely going to document all my conversations with HR. It's encouraging to hear that some companies are more flexible than they initially seem - I was pretty discouraged when my HR first told me I "wasn't eligible" but now I realize they might just be talking about the legal requirements, not what they're actually willing to do. I'll definitely ask about any supplemental leave policies too. Thanks for sharing your experience!

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I went through this exact same confusion when I had my daughter last year! Your HR is mixing up two completely different things - job protection (FMLA/CFRA) and benefit eligibility (EDD PFL). Since you're already getting SDI, you've definitely been paying into the system and qualify for the 8 weeks of baby bonding benefits. I didn't have job protection either but still got all my PFL payments. The key is to file your PFL claim about 1-2 weeks before your disability ends so there's no gap in payments. I used the online portal and it was pretty straightforward. Just make sure you have a clear conversation with your employer about whether they'll let you return after the additional 8 weeks - some are more flexible than others even without being legally required. Don't let confusing HR info stop you from getting benefits you've earned!

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This is exactly what I needed to hear! I was getting so stressed thinking I might not qualify for anything beyond my disability payments. It's really frustrating how HR departments don't explain the difference clearly - I bet so many new parents miss out on benefits because of this confusion. I'm going to start preparing my PFL application now so I can submit it right before my disability ends. Did you find the online portal easy to navigate? I'm hoping it's more user-friendly than trying to call their phone lines!

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I'm going through this exact situation right now too! Just had my baby 3 weeks ago and was so confused when my HR told me I "wasn't eligible" for bonding leave. Reading all these responses has been such a relief - I had no idea there was a difference between job protection and the actual benefit payments! I've been paying into SDI through my paychecks for over a year, so it sounds like I definitely qualify for the PFL bonding benefits even though my company won't hold my job. Does anyone know if there's a specific deadline for applying? I'm currently 3 weeks into my disability claim and want to make sure I don't miss any important timing windows. Also, has anyone had success negotiating with their employer for unpaid leave after the PFL ends? I'm wondering if I could potentially extend my time off even further if needed.

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Layla Sanders

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Hey Ryder! I'm actually in a very similar boat - new to this whole system and trying to figure it all out. From what I've been reading in this thread, it sounds like you want to apply for the PFL bonding leave about 1-2 weeks before your disability claim ends (so around week 4-6 of your disability depending on your delivery type). The good news is that since you've been paying into SDI for over a year, you should definitely qualify for the benefit payments! As for negotiating unpaid leave after PFL ends, I haven't gotten that far yet but I'm planning to have that conversation with my HR once I know for sure what my PFL timeline will look like. It seems like some employers are more flexible than others. Good luck to both of us navigating this confusing system!

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Zadie Patel

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I'm currently going through this same situation and wanted to share what I learned from speaking with an EDD representative yesterday. The key thing to understand is that PFL baby bonding is completely separate from your employer's leave policies - it's a state benefit you've earned by paying into SDI through your paychecks. Even if your company won't hold your job (due to not meeting FMLA requirements), you can still receive the 8 weeks of PFL payments as long as you've been paying into the system. One important tip I got: make sure to submit your PFL application while you're still on disability, ideally 2-3 weeks before it ends. This helps ensure there's no gap in payments. The representative also mentioned that many people don't realize they can take PFL even without job protection, so definitely don't let your employer's policy stop you from applying for benefits you've earned! I'd also suggest having a frank conversation with your HR about whether they'd be willing to work with you on an extended unpaid leave arrangement after PFL - you might be surprised at their flexibility.

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Nathan Dell

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This is incredibly helpful, thank you for sharing what you learned from actually talking to an EDD rep! I've been so worried about timing this wrong and ending up with a gap in payments. It's such a relief to know that I can definitely get the PFL benefits even though my job won't be protected. I'm about 2 weeks into my disability claim now, so I'll start preparing my PFL application to submit in the next week or so. Did the EDD rep mention anything about what documents you need for the baby bonding application, or is it pretty straightforward if you're already in the system for disability? I'm hoping it's not as complicated as the initial disability claim was!

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Connor Murphy

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I went through this exact same confusion last year with my first baby! Your HR is definitely mixing up job protection (FMLA/CFRA) with benefit eligibility (EDD PFL). Since you're already receiving state disability, you've been paying into SDI and absolutely qualify for the 8 weeks of baby bonding PFL - that's completely separate from what your employer offers. Here's what worked for me: I applied for PFL online about 10 days before my disability was set to end. The application was much simpler than the initial disability claim - since you're already in the system, most of your info carries over. You'll mainly just need to specify that it's for baby bonding and provide your baby's birth certificate. The tricky part is the job situation. My employer also couldn't guarantee my position, but when I explained that I was taking state benefits I'd already paid into (not asking for company leave), they were more understanding. Some companies will work with you on unpaid personal leave after PFL ends if you're upfront about your plans. It's worth having that honest conversation - the worst they can say is no, but you might be surprised at their flexibility, especially if you're a valued employee. Don't let the job protection issue stop you from claiming benefits you've earned! Congratulations on your new baby!

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Tyler Lefleur

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This is exactly the kind of detailed, step-by-step guidance I was hoping for! Thank you for breaking down the application process - it's so reassuring to hear that the PFL application is simpler than the initial disability claim since I'm already in the system. I was dreading having to go through all that paperwork again! The timing advice about applying 10 days before disability ends is really helpful too. I'm planning to have that honest conversation with my HR department this week about potential flexibility, and you're right that framing it as "state benefits I've already paid into" rather than "company leave" might make them more receptive. Even if they can't guarantee my exact position, maybe they'd be open to some kind of arrangement. It's so frustrating how many new parents probably miss out on these benefits because of confusing information from employers. I almost didn't apply because of what my HR initially told me! Thanks for the encouragement and congratulations - this whole thread has been a lifesaver for navigating this complicated system.

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I'm so glad I found this thread! I'm currently 5 weeks into my maternity leave and was told the same thing by my HR - that I don't qualify for bonding leave because I haven't been there a full year. Reading all these responses has been eye-opening! I had no idea there was such a clear distinction between job protection through FMLA and the actual EDD benefit payments. I've been paying into SDI for about 10 months now, so it sounds like I definitely qualify for the PFL bonding benefits. I'm going to start my application next week since my disability claim should end in about 2 weeks. My biggest concern now is the job situation - my company has been pretty rigid about their policies, but maybe if I frame it the way some of you suggested (as state benefits I've earned rather than company leave), they might be more understanding. Has anyone had experience with smaller companies being flexible about this? Mine only has about 15 employees, so they're not subject to FMLA requirements, but I'm hoping that also means they might be more willing to work with me on a case-by-case basis. Either way, I'm definitely not going to let confusion about job protection stop me from getting the benefits I've been paying for!

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Maggie Martinez

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Sofia, I'm so glad you found this thread helpful too! Smaller companies can actually be more flexible sometimes because they don't have rigid corporate policies to follow. Since you only have 15 employees, your HR probably has more discretion to make individual accommodations. When you talk to them, definitely emphasize that you're not asking the company to pay you - you're just asking if they can work with you on the timing since you'll be receiving state benefits you've already earned through your paycheck deductions. Some smaller employers are actually more understanding about this stuff because they can see the direct impact on their employees. Worst case scenario, you still get your 8 weeks of PFL payments even if they can't hold your exact position. But I'd bet they'll be more flexible than you think, especially if you've been a good employee! Good luck with your application - you're doing the right thing by not letting the job protection confusion stop you from getting benefits you deserve.

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