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Has any had success locating DE 4365DI - Request for Eligibility? Its not in the "Publications and Forms".  The only form available is the Unemployment version DE 4365 (REAS). Any tips?

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Hi John, it's possible that's the wrong form name. There is this form to file a claim, not to explicitly request for eligibility here: https://edd.ca.gov/siteassets/files/pdf_pub_ctr/de2501.pdf

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Here's the dialing shortcut to get a live person at SDI (EDD State Disability office) -- there's also a tool at the end of the video that guarantees you speak with an agent without any hold time: https://youtu.be/1X-mEsLtbmQ

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I thought so but it is the form number CASDI Requested in a recent request for information. I’ve already filed a claim.

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Was it mailed to you?

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No - CASDI requested via online notification DE 2517-24 Notice of Determination but provided no link to 4365. Form

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:/ Very curious why I cannot find it either. Did you place a call with Claimyr? I am eager to know this too.

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My call got through. Form 4365 DI was requested but unnecessary b/c I use and they used that instead of sending me a form to verify information. Thanks

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Ahh, that's the reason. Makes sense.

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To all those having trouble reaching a human at the EDD Disability office phone number. I just ran across this video that gave me a shortcut to reach a human. Hope it helps! https://youtu.be/IG7MNAHOtnU

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Thanks for sharing this John! I was actually looking for this same form recently and had the exact same issue - couldn't find the DI version anywhere on the EDD site. It's frustrating when they reference forms that aren't publicly available. Glad to hear from the thread that you were able to resolve it through verification instead. For anyone else running into this, it seems like calling directly might be the only way to get clarity on whether you actually need this specific form or if there's an alternative verification method available.

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This is such a helpful thread! I'm dealing with a similar situation right now where I received a notice referencing form DE 4365DI but can't locate it anywhere on the EDD website. It's reassuring to know that John was able to resolve this through verification instead of needing the actual form. I'm curious - for those who don't have set up, would you recommend calling EDD directly first, or should we try to set up verification as an alternative? It seems like there might be multiple pathways to complete the eligibility verification process that aren't clearly documented on their site.

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Hi Alicia! Based on what I've seen in this thread, I'd recommend trying to set up first if you haven't already - it seems like that's becoming EDD's preferred verification method and could save you from needing the elusive DE 4365DI form altogether. However, if you're not comfortable with or run into issues setting it up, calling EDD directly would be your next best bet. From John's experience, it sounds like the representatives can clarify whether you actually need that specific form or if there are alternative verification options available. The key seems to be that EDD has multiple verification pathways that aren't well-documented on their website, so a direct conversation might be the most efficient way to figure out exactly what they need from you.

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This is exactly the kind of issue that highlights how confusing EDD's documentation can be! I've been helping family members navigate disability claims recently and have run into similar problems with form references that lead nowhere. It's great that John was able to get through and confirm that verification worked as an alternative - that's really valuable information for the community. For anyone else facing this, it might be worth checking if you already have an account from other government services (like IRS or VA) since that could streamline the process. Has anyone else noticed other "phantom" forms referenced in EDD notices that aren't actually available for download?

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Yes, I've definitely encountered other "phantom" forms! I recently dealt with a notice that referenced form DE 2520-A for additional documentation, but when I searched the EDD site, I could only find DE 2520 (without the -A suffix). It seems like EDD's internal form numbering system doesn't always align with what's publicly available on their website. This thread has been really helpful - I'm going to try the route first based on John's success, and it's good to know that calling directly can help clarify these form discrepancies. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences!

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I'm running into this exact same issue right now! Got a notice referencing DE 4365DI but it's nowhere to be found on the EDD site. Really appreciate John sharing his experience - it's so frustrating when they reference forms that don't seem to exist publicly. I'm going to try setting up first based on what worked for him, but it's concerning how many of these "phantom" forms seem to be floating around in EDD's system. Has anyone else noticed if there's a pattern to when they use verification versus requiring these mystery forms? It would be helpful to know what triggers one path versus the other.

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Hi Nathaniel! I'm new to this community but dealing with a similar situation. From what I've gathered reading through this thread, it seems like verification might be triggered when you already have an established account or when EDD's system can verify your identity through that pathway. The mystery forms like DE 4365DI appear to be fallback options when digital verification isn't possible or available. I'd definitely recommend trying the route first - it sounds like it's becoming their preferred method and could save you a lot of headache. If that doesn't work, the calling shortcuts that Tom shared earlier in the thread might be your best bet to get direct clarification from an agent.

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I'm new here but dealing with this exact same frustrating situation! Just received a DE 2517-24 notice that references the mysterious DE 4365DI form, and like everyone else, I can't find it anywhere on the EDD website. This thread has been incredibly helpful - John, thank you so much for sharing that verification worked as an alternative! I'm definitely going to try that route first before attempting to call. It's really concerning how many people are running into these "phantom" forms that EDD references but doesn't actually make available to the public. Has anyone compiled a list of these missing forms? It might be useful for the community to have a resource that tracks which forms are referenced but unavailable, along with the workarounds that actually work.

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Hey Connor! Welcome to the community - you're definitely not alone in dealing with this frustrating DE 4365DI form issue. I'm also new here and just went through something similar last month. Based on what I've learned from this thread and my own experience, I'd strongly recommend starting with if you haven't already set it up. It really does seem to be EDD's preferred verification method now, and it saved me from having to track down phantom forms. If you do create that missing forms resource you mentioned, I'd be happy to contribute - I've encountered at least three other form references that led to dead ends on the EDD site. It's amazing how common this problem seems to be, yet there's no official acknowledgment of it anywhere!

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I just joined this community after running into the exact same DE 4365DI form issue! Got my DE 2517-24 notice yesterday and spent hours searching the EDD website with no luck. This thread is a goldmine - thank you John for sharing that verification worked as your alternative! I already have set up from filing taxes, so I'm hoping that will streamline things. It's really eye-opening to see how many people are dealing with these phantom forms. Tom, those calling shortcuts you shared earlier are also super helpful as a backup plan. Has anyone noticed if the shift toward verification is related to EDD trying to reduce fraud, or is it just their way of modernizing the process? Either way, it seems like having ready is becoming essential for any EDD interactions.

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Hi Brooklyn! Welcome to the community - you're absolutely right that this thread has been incredibly valuable for those of us dealing with this DE 4365DI mystery. Since you already have set up from tax filing, you should be in great shape! From what I've observed in other government services, the shift toward does seem to be driven by both fraud reduction efforts and process modernization - it creates a more secure, standardized verification system across multiple agencies. It's interesting how EDD is essentially moving toward this digital-first approach but hasn't updated their documentation to reflect it clearly. Your experience with already having established should make this much smoother than those of us starting from scratch!

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I'm new to this community and just encountered this same frustrating DE 4365DI form issue! Received my DE 2517-24 notice last week referencing this form, but like everyone else here, I couldn't find it anywhere on the EDD website. This thread has been incredibly helpful - John, thank you for confirming that verification worked as an alternative! I don't have set up yet, but based on everyone's experiences here, it sounds like that should be my first step before trying to call. It's really concerning how widespread this phantom form problem seems to be. Has anyone who successfully used verification noticed if it speeds up the overall processing time compared to traditional paper forms? I'm hoping the digital route might be more efficient overall, despite the initial confusion about the missing form.

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Hey Caleb! Welcome to the community - you're definitely dealing with the same frustrating situation many of us have faced with this elusive DE 4365DI form. Based on what I've seen in this thread, setting up first is absolutely the right approach. From the experiences shared here, it does seem like the digital verification route through can be faster than waiting for paper forms or trying to track down these phantom forms that EDD references but doesn't actually provide. John's success story really shows that EDD is moving toward this digital-first approach, even if their documentation hasn't caught up yet. I'd definitely recommend getting your account set up sooner rather than later - it seems like it's becoming essential for most EDD interactions, and having it ready could save you a lot of headache down the road!

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I'm new to this community and just ran into this exact same DE 4365DI form issue! Got my notice referencing this phantom form and spent way too much time searching the EDD website before finding this thread. John, thank you so much for sharing your experience with verification working as an alternative - that's incredibly valuable information! I'm going to try setting up first based on everyone's recommendations here. It's really frustrating how EDD references these forms that don't seem to exist publicly, but it's reassuring to see that there are workarounds. Tom, those calling shortcuts you shared are also really helpful as a backup option. Has anyone noticed if there are specific circumstances that determine whether EDD pushes you toward verification versus these mystery paper forms? It would be great to understand the pattern better to help future community members navigate this more efficiently.

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Hey Miguel! Welcome to the community - you're definitely not alone in this DE 4365DI form mystery! As someone who just joined and went through a similar experience recently, I'd suggest definitely trying the route first like everyone's recommended. From what I've gathered reading through this thread, it seems like EDD might default to these phantom paper forms when their system can't immediately verify your identity digitally, but once you have set up, they prefer to use that instead. John's experience really shows that the digital verification path is much smoother when it's available. I'm curious too about the specific triggers - it might be related to whether you've used with other government services before, or how complete your existing EDD profile information is. Either way, having ready seems to be becoming essential for any EDD interactions these days!

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I'm new to this community and just encountered this exact same DE 4365DI form issue! Received a DE 2517-24 notice this morning that references this mysterious form, but like everyone else here, I can't find it anywhere on the EDD website. This thread has been a lifesaver - John, thank you for sharing that verification worked as your solution! I don't have set up yet, but based on all the positive experiences shared here, that's clearly my next step. It's really eye-opening to see how many people are dealing with these phantom forms that EDD references but doesn't actually make available. Tom, those calling shortcuts you posted are also super helpful to have as a backup. Has anyone who went the route noticed approximately how long the verification process takes once you get it set up? I'm hoping to avoid the call-in route if possible, but it's good to know there are multiple pathways to resolve this frustrating documentation gap.

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Hi Ravi! Welcome to the community - you're definitely dealing with the same frustrating situation many of us have faced. From my experience and what I've seen others share here, the verification process is usually pretty quick once you get it set up - typically takes just a few minutes to complete the identity verification steps online, though it can take up to 24-48 hours for EDD to process and accept the verification on their end. The great thing is that once you have established, it tends to work seamlessly with EDD's system and you won't have to deal with these phantom form issues again. John's success story really shows this is the way to go, and having it ready will probably help with any future EDD interactions too. Definitely worth trying before going the phone route!

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I'm new to this community and just encountered this same DE 4365DI form issue! Got my notice yesterday and like everyone else, couldn't find the form anywhere on EDD's site. This thread has been incredibly helpful - John, thank you for sharing that verification worked instead of needing the actual form! I already have from other government services, so I'm hoping that will make this process smoother. It's really concerning how many "phantom" forms EDD references that aren't publicly available. Based on everyone's experiences here, it seems like EDD is quietly shifting toward digital verification but hasn't updated their documentation to reflect this change. For newcomers like me, it sounds like having set up should be the first priority for any EDD interactions. Tom, those calling shortcuts are also great to have as backup options. Has anyone noticed if this digital-first approach is being implemented across other state agencies too, or is this mainly an EDD thing?

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Hey Maxwell! Welcome to the community - you're in a great position having already set up from other government services! That should definitely streamline your process based on John's experience and what others have shared here. To answer your question about the digital-first approach, I've noticed this trend across several state agencies, not just EDD. The IRS, VA, and Social Security Administration have all been moving toward verification over the past couple years, especially after the pandemic pushed more services online. It seems like California is trying to standardize this approach across multiple departments to reduce fraud and improve efficiency, but you're absolutely right that their documentation hasn't caught up with the reality of how they're actually processing things. The disconnect between what their notices reference and what's actually available on their website is pretty widespread. Since you already have ID.me, you should be able to bypass this whole DE 4365DI mystery entirely!

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I'm new to this community and just ran into this exact same DE 4365DI form issue! Received my DE 2517-24 notice earlier this week referencing this elusive form, and like everyone else here, I've had zero luck finding it on the EDD website. This thread has been absolutely invaluable - John, huge thanks for sharing that verification worked as your solution! I don't have set up yet, but based on all the success stories shared here, that's clearly my first step. It's really frustrating how EDD references these phantom forms that don't actually exist publicly, but it's reassuring to know there are digital workarounds available. Tom, those calling shortcuts you posted are also super helpful to have as backup options. What strikes me most is how this seems to be part of a broader shift toward digital verification that EDD hasn't properly communicated to claimants. For anyone else just discovering this thread, it seems like getting set up proactively could save a lot of future headaches with EDD interactions beyond just this specific form issue.

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Hi Yuki! Welcome to the community - you're absolutely right about this being part of a broader digital shift that EDD hasn't communicated well. As someone new here who just went through this same frustrating experience, I can confirm that setting up proactively is definitely the way to go. What's particularly helpful about this thread is seeing how John's success with verification has become a roadmap for so many of us dealing with these phantom forms. It really does seem like EDD is quietly transitioning to digital-first verification across the board, but their notices and documentation are still referencing these old paper forms that may not even exist anymore. Your point about this helping with future EDD interactions is spot on - once you have established, it seems to smooth out a lot of these bureaucratic hiccups that come up with various government services. Thanks for highlighting that broader pattern - it's really helpful for newcomers to understand this isn't just a one-off issue but part of a larger systemic change!

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I'm new to this community and just encountered this exact same DE 4365DI form mystery! Got my DE 2517-24 notice today and spent hours searching the EDD website with no success, just like everyone else here. This thread has been incredibly helpful - John, thank you so much for sharing that verification worked as your alternative solution! I don't have set up yet, but based on all the positive experiences shared here, that's clearly my next step before attempting to call. It's really eye-opening to see how widespread this phantom form issue is across the community. Tom, those calling shortcuts you shared are also great to have as backup options. What's particularly striking is how this seems to reflect a broader digital transformation at EDD that they haven't properly communicated to claimants. The disconnect between their notices referencing these mystery forms and what's actually available on their website is pretty significant. For other newcomers dealing with this, it seems like proactively setting up verification could prevent a lot of these documentation headaches not just for this specific issue, but for future EDD interactions as well.

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