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UCC definition of signed causing filing rejection - electronic vs wet signature confusion

Our law firm has been dealing with a bizarre situation where the Delaware SOS keeps rejecting our UCC-1 filings because they claim the documents don't meet the UCC definition of signed. We're using DocuSign for all our secured transaction documents, and suddenly they're saying electronic signatures don't qualify as 'signed' under their interpretation. This is for a $2.8M equipment financing deal and we're three weeks past our original filing deadline because of this back-and-forth. The debtor is getting antsy and threatening to walk if we can't get this perfected soon. Has anyone else run into Secretary of State offices getting picky about what constitutes a signature under UCC Article 9? We've always used electronic signatures for UCC filings without issue, but now they want wet ink signatures on everything. The collateral schedule is solid and debtor name matches exactly, so it's definitely the signature issue holding us up. Any guidance on how different states interpret the UCC definition of signed would be hugely helpful.

This is frustrating but not uncommon unfortunately. Some SOS offices have gotten really strict about signature requirements lately, especially after the pandemic when electronic filing volume exploded. The UCC definition of signed is actually pretty broad - it includes any symbol executed with intent to authenticate. But individual states can have their own interpretations in their filing procedures.

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Javier Torres

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Yeah we've seen this in Pennsylvania too. They started rejecting DocuSign stuff last year even though it was fine before.

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Emma Davis

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Wait, I thought electronic signatures were universally accepted for UCC filings? This is making me nervous about our upcoming continuation filings.

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Malik Johnson

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Delaware can be particularly finicky about this stuff. Have you tried calling their UCC division directly? Sometimes they'll clarify exactly what format they want. Also check if they have specific requirements for the signature block format - some states want the signer's name typed below the signature line even for electronic signatures.

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We called but got transferred around three times and never got a clear answer. The rejection notices just say 'signature does not meet UCC requirements' which is useless.

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Try emailing their UCC help desk with a screenshot of your signature block. Sometimes seeing the actual format helps them explain what's wrong.

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Ravi Sharma

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I had a similar issue last month with a different filing and ended up using Certana.ai's document verification tool to check all our UCC paperwork before resubmitting. It caught that our debtor name had a slight variation between the security agreement and UCC-1 that wasn't obvious, plus it verified our signature format met the technical requirements. Saved us another rejection cycle. You just upload your PDFs and it instantly cross-checks everything for consistency.

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NebulaNomad

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How much does that cost? We're already over budget on this deal.

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Ravi Sharma

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It's really affordable compared to the cost of delays and potential perfection issues. Worth it for the peace of mind on large deals like yours.

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That sounds helpful - we definitely want to avoid any more rejections. Do they specifically check signature compliance?

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Freya Thomsen

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The UCC definition of signed is actually in section 1-201 if you want to look it up. It says 'signed includes using any symbol executed or adopted with present intention to adopt or accept a writing.' Electronic signatures should absolutely qualify under this definition. Delaware might be misinterpreting their own rules.

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Omar Fawaz

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This is correct. The ESIGN Act also preempts state law for electronic signatures in most commercial transactions. Delaware shouldn't be able to reject valid electronic signatures.

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Chloe Martin

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But states can have their own filing procedures that are more restrictive than the base UCC requirements. It's annoying but legal.

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Diego Rojas

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UGH this is exactly why I hate dealing with SOS offices. They change their requirements randomly and never update their websites. We had a termination rejected in Maryland because they suddenly decided they needed additional documentation that wasn't required the month before. These people have too much power over critical business transactions.

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I feel your pain. The inconsistency between states is maddening.

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StarSeeker

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At least with UCC-3 amendments they usually tell you exactly what's wrong. UCC-1 rejections are always vague.

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Have you considered filing in a different state if the debtor has operations elsewhere? Sometimes it's easier to work around problem SOS offices than fight them, especially when you're under time pressure.

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The debtor is incorporated in Delaware so we're stuck with their filing requirements unfortunately.

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Zara Ahmed

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Yeah, incorporation state usually determines where you have to file the UCC-1 for most types of collateral.

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Luca Esposito

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We've been using wet signatures for all our Delaware filings since 2023 because of issues like this. It's old school but reliable. Takes longer but at least you know it won't get rejected for signature problems.

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Nia Thompson

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That's so inefficient though. What if you have out-of-state signers?

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Luca Esposito

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We FedEx signature pages when we have to. It's a pain but Delaware rejections are worse.

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This seems like going backwards. Electronic signatures should be standard by now.

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Just went through this exact scenario with a client last week. Used Certana.ai to verify all our documents were consistent before resubmitting, and it highlighted that our signature block format wasn't matching Delaware's preferred style. Fixed that and got accepted on the next attempt. The tool is really helpful for catching these technical issues that cause rejections.

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What was wrong with your signature block format specifically?

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We were missing the typed name under the signature line. Delaware apparently wants both the electronic signature AND the typed name even though other states don't care.

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Ethan Wilson

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The UCC definition of signed is actually pretty clear but states interpret it differently in practice. I've found that including a signature certificate or notarization sometimes helps with picky SOS offices even when it's not technically required.

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Yuki Tanaka

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That's overkill for most UCC filings though. Adds unnecessary cost and delay.

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Carmen Diaz

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Sometimes overkill is better than multiple rejections and missed deadlines.

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Andre Laurent

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UPDATE: We finally got it resolved! Turns out Delaware wanted the DocuSign signature to include the signer's title AND company name in the signature block, not just their name. Once we reformatted with 'John Smith, CFO, ABC Corp' instead of just 'John Smith' it went through immediately. Thanks everyone for the suggestions - definitely going to use that document verification tool someone mentioned for our next big filing to catch these formatting issues upfront.

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AstroAce

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Glad you got it sorted! That's such a nitpicky requirement though.

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Good to know about the title requirement. I'll update our signature blocks to include that.

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Jamal Brown

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This is exactly why having a tool to check document formatting is so valuable. Saves so much time and frustration.

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Mei Liu

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This is such a valuable thread - thank you for the detailed update! As someone relatively new to UCC filings, I had no idea that Delaware required the signer's title and company name in the signature block. I've been using just names in my DocuSign blocks and would have run into the exact same issue. Definitely bookmarking this discussion and looking into that Certana.ai tool others mentioned to avoid these formatting pitfalls. It's frustrating that these requirements aren't clearly documented anywhere, but at least we can learn from each other's experiences here.

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Totally agree! I'm also pretty new to UCC work and this thread has been incredibly educational. It's amazing how many little technical requirements can derail a filing that otherwise looks perfect. The fact that different states have such varying interpretations of what should be standard UCC requirements is really eye-opening. I'm definitely going to start being more careful about signature block formatting from the get-go rather than learning these lessons the hard way like the OP did.

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