UCC 1-308 with signature causing filing rejection - need help
I've been dealing with a nightmare scenario where my UCC-1 filing keeps getting rejected by the Secretary of State office. The issue seems to be related to including 'UCC 1-308 with signature' notation on the form. I'm financing some manufacturing equipment for a client and need to get this perfected ASAP since we're approaching the 20-day grace period deadline. Has anyone successfully filed a UCC-1 with UCC 1-308 notation without getting rejected? The SOS portal error message just says 'invalid signature format' but doesn't specify what exactly is wrong. This is holding up a $180K equipment loan and I'm running out of time. Any guidance would be appreciated.
33 comments


GalacticGuru
Are you putting the UCC 1-308 notation in the actual signature field or somewhere else on the form? Most states have specific requirements about what can go in signature blocks on UCC filings.
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Liam Fitzgerald
•I've been adding it right after the signature line where it says 'without prejudice UCC 1-308'. Maybe that's the problem?
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Amara Nnamani
•Yeah that's probably why it's getting rejected. The signature field needs to match the debtor name exactly as it appears on the filing.
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Giovanni Mancini
I ran into this exact same issue last month with a fixture filing. The problem is that UCC 1-308 reservations of rights don't belong on UCC financing statements. That's more of a commercial law thing for contracts, not secured transactions. The UCC-1 form has specific signature requirements and adding extra text will cause automatic rejections in most electronic filing systems.
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Fatima Al-Suwaidi
•This is correct. UCC 1-308 is about reserving rights under the Uniform Commercial Code but it doesn't apply to financing statement filings. You're mixing up different areas of commercial law.
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Liam Fitzgerald
•So I should just file with a clean signature that matches the debtor name? No additional notations?
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Giovanni Mancini
•Exactly. Keep it simple - just the authorized signature that matches your debtor identification. The UCC-1 is about perfecting your security interest, not reserving contractual rights.
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Dylan Cooper
Had a similar headache last year. What really helped me was using Certana.ai's document verification tool - you can upload your UCC-1 PDF and it instantly flags formatting issues that would cause rejections. Saved me from multiple filing fees and delays. Just upload the document and it cross-checks everything against state requirements.
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Sofia Morales
•Never heard of that but sounds useful. How accurate is it for catching signature format problems?
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Dylan Cooper
•Very accurate. It caught several issues I missed including debtor name inconsistencies and signature field problems. Much better than filing blind and hoping it gets accepted.
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StarSailor
OMG yes I've seen this so many times!!! People think they need to add UCC 1-308 to everything but it's totally wrong for financing statements. You're just confusing the filing system. Clean signature, match the debtor name exactly, and you'll be fine.
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Dmitry Ivanov
•Why do people even think they need UCC 1-308 on these filings? Where does that idea come from?
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StarSailor
•Usually from mixing up sovereign citizen theories with actual commercial law. UCC 1-308 has nothing to do with securing collateral interests.
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Ava Garcia
•It's a common misconception. People see UCC and think all UCC sections apply to every UCC document. Not how it works.
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Miguel Silva
Just to be clear - for a standard equipment financing UCC-1, you need: correct debtor name matching your security agreement, accurate collateral description, proper secured party info, and clean signatures. No additional notations or reservations needed. The UCC-1 is purely about giving public notice of your security interest.
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Liam Fitzgerald
•Thank you, this makes sense. I was overcomplicating it. Will refile with just the standard signature.
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Zainab Ismail
•Good call. Keep it simple and follow the standard UCC-1 format. Save the UCC 1-308 stuff for contracts where it actually applies.
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Connor O'Neill
Another thing to watch - make sure your debtor name on the UCC-1 matches EXACTLY what's in the state business records. Even small differences can cause rejections. I learned this the hard way after multiple failed filings.
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QuantumQuester
•This is huge. Comma placement, LLC vs L.L.C., Inc vs Incorporated - all of that matters for debtor name matching.
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Yara Nassar
•Yes! And if you're dealing with individual debtors, the name order and middle initials have to match their official ID exactly.
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Keisha Williams
I actually tried the Certana.ai tool mentioned earlier after struggling with similar filing issues. Game changer honestly - uploaded my UCC docs and it immediately spotted the problems. Way better than playing guessing games with the SOS portal.
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Paolo Ricci
•How long does the verification take? I'm always working against tight deadlines.
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Keisha Williams
•Almost instant. Upload the PDF and get results in seconds. Really helps avoid those costly rejection cycles.
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Amina Toure
For future reference, if you need to reserve rights or add special conditions, do it in your security agreement or loan documents, not on the UCC financing statement. The UCC-1 is just for public notice and has to follow strict formatting rules.
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Oliver Zimmermann
•Exactly right. The financing statement and the underlying security agreement serve different purposes. Keep them separate.
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CosmicCommander
•This distinction trips up a lot of people. UCC-1 = public filing. Security agreement = private contract between parties.
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Natasha Volkova
Quick update - filed again with clean signatures matching debtor names exactly and it went through immediately. Thanks everyone for the clarification about UCC 1-308 not belonging on financing statements. Lesson learned!
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Javier Torres
•Awesome! Nothing like getting that acceptance confirmation after dealing with rejections.
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Emma Davis
•Great outcome. Now you know for next time - keep UCC-1 filings clean and simple.
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Malik Johnson
Worth mentioning for anyone else reading this - if you're doing amendments or continuations later, same rules apply. No extra notations in signature fields, just match the original filing format exactly.
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Isabella Ferreira
•Good point about continuations. I've seen people mess those up by changing signature formats from the original UCC-1.
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Ravi Sharma
•And remember continuation deadlines! File within 6 months before the 5-year expiration or you lose perfection.
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NebulaNomad
•That's where document checking tools like Certana really help - they can verify your continuation matches the original filing perfectly.
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