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Liam Fitzgerald

UCC 1-308 with signature causing filing rejection - need help

I've been dealing with a nightmare scenario where my UCC-1 filing keeps getting rejected by the Secretary of State office. The issue seems to be related to including 'UCC 1-308 with signature' notation on the form. I'm financing some manufacturing equipment for a client and need to get this perfected ASAP since we're approaching the 20-day grace period deadline. Has anyone successfully filed a UCC-1 with UCC 1-308 notation without getting rejected? The SOS portal error message just says 'invalid signature format' but doesn't specify what exactly is wrong. This is holding up a $180K equipment loan and I'm running out of time. Any guidance would be appreciated.

GalacticGuru

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Are you putting the UCC 1-308 notation in the actual signature field or somewhere else on the form? Most states have specific requirements about what can go in signature blocks on UCC filings.

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I've been adding it right after the signature line where it says 'without prejudice UCC 1-308'. Maybe that's the problem?

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Amara Nnamani

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Yeah that's probably why it's getting rejected. The signature field needs to match the debtor name exactly as it appears on the filing.

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I ran into this exact same issue last month with a fixture filing. The problem is that UCC 1-308 reservations of rights don't belong on UCC financing statements. That's more of a commercial law thing for contracts, not secured transactions. The UCC-1 form has specific signature requirements and adding extra text will cause automatic rejections in most electronic filing systems.

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This is correct. UCC 1-308 is about reserving rights under the Uniform Commercial Code but it doesn't apply to financing statement filings. You're mixing up different areas of commercial law.

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So I should just file with a clean signature that matches the debtor name? No additional notations?

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Exactly. Keep it simple - just the authorized signature that matches your debtor identification. The UCC-1 is about perfecting your security interest, not reserving contractual rights.

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Dylan Cooper

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Had a similar headache last year. What really helped me was using Certana.ai's document verification tool - you can upload your UCC-1 PDF and it instantly flags formatting issues that would cause rejections. Saved me from multiple filing fees and delays. Just upload the document and it cross-checks everything against state requirements.

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Sofia Morales

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Never heard of that but sounds useful. How accurate is it for catching signature format problems?

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Dylan Cooper

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Very accurate. It caught several issues I missed including debtor name inconsistencies and signature field problems. Much better than filing blind and hoping it gets accepted.

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StarSailor

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OMG yes I've seen this so many times!!! People think they need to add UCC 1-308 to everything but it's totally wrong for financing statements. You're just confusing the filing system. Clean signature, match the debtor name exactly, and you'll be fine.

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Dmitry Ivanov

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Why do people even think they need UCC 1-308 on these filings? Where does that idea come from?

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StarSailor

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Usually from mixing up sovereign citizen theories with actual commercial law. UCC 1-308 has nothing to do with securing collateral interests.

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Ava Garcia

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It's a common misconception. People see UCC and think all UCC sections apply to every UCC document. Not how it works.

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Miguel Silva

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Just to be clear - for a standard equipment financing UCC-1, you need: correct debtor name matching your security agreement, accurate collateral description, proper secured party info, and clean signatures. No additional notations or reservations needed. The UCC-1 is purely about giving public notice of your security interest.

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Thank you, this makes sense. I was overcomplicating it. Will refile with just the standard signature.

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Zainab Ismail

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Good call. Keep it simple and follow the standard UCC-1 format. Save the UCC 1-308 stuff for contracts where it actually applies.

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Another thing to watch - make sure your debtor name on the UCC-1 matches EXACTLY what's in the state business records. Even small differences can cause rejections. I learned this the hard way after multiple failed filings.

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This is huge. Comma placement, LLC vs L.L.C., Inc vs Incorporated - all of that matters for debtor name matching.

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Yara Nassar

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Yes! And if you're dealing with individual debtors, the name order and middle initials have to match their official ID exactly.

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I actually tried the Certana.ai tool mentioned earlier after struggling with similar filing issues. Game changer honestly - uploaded my UCC docs and it immediately spotted the problems. Way better than playing guessing games with the SOS portal.

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Paolo Ricci

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How long does the verification take? I'm always working against tight deadlines.

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Almost instant. Upload the PDF and get results in seconds. Really helps avoid those costly rejection cycles.

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Amina Toure

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For future reference, if you need to reserve rights or add special conditions, do it in your security agreement or loan documents, not on the UCC financing statement. The UCC-1 is just for public notice and has to follow strict formatting rules.

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Exactly right. The financing statement and the underlying security agreement serve different purposes. Keep them separate.

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This distinction trips up a lot of people. UCC-1 = public filing. Security agreement = private contract between parties.

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Quick update - filed again with clean signatures matching debtor names exactly and it went through immediately. Thanks everyone for the clarification about UCC 1-308 not belonging on financing statements. Lesson learned!

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Javier Torres

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Awesome! Nothing like getting that acceptance confirmation after dealing with rejections.

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Emma Davis

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Great outcome. Now you know for next time - keep UCC-1 filings clean and simple.

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Malik Johnson

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Worth mentioning for anyone else reading this - if you're doing amendments or continuations later, same rules apply. No extra notations in signature fields, just match the original filing format exactly.

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Good point about continuations. I've seen people mess those up by changing signature formats from the original UCC-1.

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Ravi Sharma

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And remember continuation deadlines! File within 6 months before the 5-year expiration or you lose perfection.

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NebulaNomad

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That's where document checking tools like Certana really help - they can verify your continuation matches the original filing perfectly.

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