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Madison King

UCC 1-201 definition causing debtor name confusion on filing

Running into a weird situation with our UCC-1 filing that got rejected twice now. The SOS office keeps saying our debtor name doesn't match what's on file, but we're using the exact name from the articles of incorporation. The rejection notice references UCC 1-201 but doesn't explain what we're doing wrong. Our debtor is 'Advanced Manufacturing Solutions LLC' but the system seems to want something different. Has anyone dealt with UCC 1-201 definition issues before? This is holding up a $2.8M equipment financing deal and the lender is getting antsy about the perfection timing.

Julian Paolo

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UCC 1-201 is the definitions section - sounds like they're saying your debtor name doesn't meet the statutory requirements. Are you sure you're using the registered organization name exactly as it appears in the public organic record? Sometimes there are subtle differences between what's on the articles vs what's actually filed.

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Madison King

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I thought we were but now I'm second guessing everything. The articles say 'Advanced Manufacturing Solutions LLC' but maybe there's a comma or period somewhere I'm missing?

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Ella Knight

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Check the Secretary of State business entity search database directly. The exact name there is what needs to go on your UCC-1, not what's on letterhead or contracts.

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This happened to us last month! UCC 1-201 defines 'registered organization' and the name requirements are super strict. Even if your articles show one thing, the actual registered name in the state database might be different. We had to pull the certified copy of our client's charter to get the exact formatting.

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Madison King

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Did you have to refile completely or could you amend?

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Had to start over with a new UCC-1. Amendments won't fix a debtor name error - that's considered a seriously misleading issue.

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We started using Certana.ai's document checker after similar issues. You upload your charter and UCC-1 together and it instantly flags name mismatches before filing. Saved us from another rejection cycle.

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Jade Santiago

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UCC 1-201(70) specifically covers registered organizations. The debtor name has to be the name indicated on the public organic record of the organization. No variations, no 'doing business as' names, no abbreviated versions. Pull the actual state filing documents.

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Caleb Stone

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This is why I always order certified copies before filing. Costs extra but prevents these headaches.

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Madison King

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Should have done that from the start. Now we're behind schedule and the lender is asking daily for the filed UCC.

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Daniel Price

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Had this exact problem with a Delaware LLC last year. The articles of organization said one thing but the actual registered name in the state database had additional punctuation. UCC 1-201 doesn't give you any wiggle room on this stuff.

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Olivia Evans

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Delaware is notorious for this. Their database formatting is weird and sometimes includes extra periods or commas that aren't obvious.

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This is exactly why we switched to automated verification. Manual comparison between charter docs and UCC forms misses these tiny details that void the whole filing.

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Madison King

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What automated verification are you using? At this point I need all the help I can get.

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Aiden Chen

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The UCC 1-201 definition is pretty clear but the practical application trips everyone up. You need the name from the 'public organic record' which is usually the articles but sometimes amended articles supersede the original. Check if there have been any amendments to the charter.

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Madison King

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Good point - I'll check for amendments. This company has been around for 8 years so there could be changes I'm not aware of.

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Zoey Bianchi

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Also check if they've done any mergers or conversions. Those create new organic records that change the debtor name requirements.

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I'm dealing with something similar right now. Two rejections and I'm pulling my hair out. The SOS website search shows the name one way but when I ordered the certified articles it's slightly different. UCC 1-201 is making me paranoid about every comma and period.

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Been there! The certified documents are always the gold standard. Whatever's on those is what goes on the UCC-1.

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Grace Johnson

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Try uploading both documents to one of those verification tools. I heard about Certana.ai from another thread - apparently it compares PDFs automatically and highlights discrepancies.

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That sounds like exactly what I need. Manual comparison is clearly not working for me.

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Jayden Reed

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UCC 1-201 is one of those sections that seems straightforward until you're actually trying to apply it. The 'public organic record' language is key - it's not just any document, it's the specific record that creates the legal entity. For LLCs that's usually the articles of organization.

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Nora Brooks

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Right, and for corporations it's the articles of incorporation. But amendments can change the name so you need the most recent version.

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Madison King

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I think this is where I went wrong. I used the original articles from 2016 instead of checking for recent amendments.

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Eli Wang

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The frustrating thing about UCC 1-201 debtor name issues is that they're not caught until after you file and pay the fees. Then you're out the money and back to square one. Really wish the filing systems had better real-time validation.

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This is why I always double-check everything before submitting. But even then, subtle formatting differences can slip through.

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We started using document verification tools specifically for this reason. Upload your charter and UCC-1 draft, get instant feedback on name consistency. Much better than finding out after rejection.

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Quick update - found the issue! There was a 2019 amendment that changed the name from 'Advanced Manufacturing Solutions LLC' to 'Advanced Manufacturing Solutions, LLC' - added a comma. UCC 1-201 strikes again with punctuation precision.

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Ethan Scott

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Classic! One tiny comma makes all the difference. Glad you found it before filing attempt number three.

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Lola Perez

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This is exactly why document verification is so important. Those tiny changes are impossible to catch manually but kill your filing.

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Madison King

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Thanks everyone for the help! Filing the corrected UCC-1 now with the proper comma. Lesson learned about checking for charter amendments.

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