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Liam O'Reilly

UCC database search showing wrong debtor info - need help verifying filing accuracy

Having a nightmare with our UCC database search results and hoping someone can point me in the right direction. We're trying to verify a UCC-1 filing from last month for a equipment financing deal, but when I search the state database using the debtor's exact legal name from our loan docs, I'm getting inconsistent results. Sometimes it shows up, sometimes it doesn't. The filing number we received shows as 'accepted' but the debtor name field in the search results looks slightly different from what we submitted. This is for a $280k excavator loan and our compliance team is freaking out that we might have a name mismatch that could void our security interest. Has anyone dealt with UCC database search inconsistencies like this? The SOS portal search function seems buggy and I'm worried we filed under the wrong debtor name variation. Need to figure out if this is a search system glitch or if we actually have a filing problem that needs a UCC-3 amendment.

Chloe Delgado

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UCC database searches can be tricky - the search algorithms aren't always perfect. First thing I'd do is try searching with different variations of the debtor name. Try without middle initials, with and without commas, different punctuation. The filing might be correct but the search function is just picky about exact matches.

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Liam O'Reilly

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Good point about the search variations. I tried a few different ways but still getting inconsistent results. The legal name on our loan agreement is 'ABC Construction Services, LLC' but in the database it's showing as 'ABC Construction Services LLC' without the comma. Is that comma difference going to be a problem for perfection?

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Chloe Delgado

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That comma difference shouldn't kill your perfection as long as the core identifying information is there. Most courts look at whether a reasonable searcher would find the filing, not perfect punctuation matches.

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Ava Harris

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I've been down this road before and it's maddening. The state databases are notorious for search glitches. But here's what worked for me - I started using Certana.ai's document verification tool. You can upload your original UCC-1 and it'll cross-check the debtor names against what actually got filed. Takes like 2 minutes and shows you exactly where any discrepancies are.

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Liam O'Reilly

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Interesting, never heard of that service before. How does it work exactly? Do you just upload the PDF of what you filed?

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Ava Harris

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Yeah exactly, you upload your original filing docs and it automatically checks them against the recorded versions. Saved me from a huge headache on a similar situation where the debtor name got truncated during electronic filing.

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Jacob Lee

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That actually sounds pretty useful. I waste so much time manually comparing documents when we have filing questions.

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OMG this is exactly what happened to us last year!! The search function is absolute garbage. We had THREE different results depending on how we searched for the same debtor. Turns out there was a data entry error on the state's end when they processed our electronic filing. Had to file a UCC-3 amendment to fix it.

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Liam O'Reilly

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That's what I'm afraid of. How did you figure out it was their data entry error vs something wrong with your original filing?

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We had to request the actual filing images from the SOS office. Cost like $25 but showed exactly what they received vs what got entered into their system. Total pain but necessary for the audit trail.

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Before you panic, double-check your original UCC-1 form. I've seen situations where the debtor name field had extra spaces or characters that didn't show up obviously but caused search issues. Also make sure you're searching in the right state - sounds obvious but I've seen people search the wrong jurisdiction.

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Liam O'Reilly

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Definitely the right state and I've triple-checked our original form. The name looks clean to me but maybe there's something I'm missing.

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Daniela Rossi

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Sometimes those electronic filing systems add weird formatting when they process the forms. Could be invisible characters or encoding issues.

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Ryan Kim

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This is why I HATE electronic filing systems. Give me paper forms any day. These databases are unreliable and the search functions are written by people who have never actually filed a UCC in their lives.

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Zoe Walker

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Come on, electronic filing is way faster and more efficient when it works right.

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Ryan Kim

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When it works right being the key phrase there. How many hours have you wasted troubleshooting database glitches that wouldn't exist with paper filings?

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Chloe Delgado

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Let's stay focused on helping solve the immediate problem here.

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Elijah Brown

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Have you tried calling the SOS filing office directly? Sometimes they can look up filings using the filing number and confirm what name is actually on record. It's old school but effective.

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Liam O'Reilly

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That's probably my next step if I can't get clarity from the online search. Do they usually charge for that kind of lookup?

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Elijah Brown

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Depends on the state but usually there's a small fee for official record searches. Worth it for peace of mind on a big loan like yours.

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Had something similar happen last month. Turned out the issue wasn't the filing but the way the database indexes names for searching. Our legal name had 'Inc.' but got indexed under 'incorporated' or something. The UCC-1 was perfect, just the search algorithm being weird.

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Liam O'Reilly

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That's actually reassuring. So the filing can be legally sufficient even if the search function doesn't work perfectly?

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Right, the perfection depends on what's actually filed, not how well the search function works. But you still need to verify what got filed matches your intent.

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Natalie Chen

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Another option is to use one of those third-party UCC search services. They sometimes have better search algorithms than the official state databases. Might give you more confidence in what's actually on record.

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Which services do you recommend? I've heard of a few but not sure which ones are reliable.

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Natalie Chen

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I've had good luck with CT Corporation and Corporation Service Company for UCC searches. They're more expensive but the search results are usually more comprehensive.

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This thread is making me paranoid about all our filings now lol. Going to have to go back and double-check everything.

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Chloe Delgado

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Don't let it stress you out too much. Most filings go through fine, these search issues are just frustrating when they happen.

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Ava Harris

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That's exactly why I started using the Certana verification tool - gives me peace of mind that everything matches up correctly without having to manually cross-check every detail.

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Nick Kravitz

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Following this thread because I'm sure I'll need this advice eventually. UCC filings always make me nervous.

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The key is just being systematic about double-checking your work. Most issues are fixable if you catch them early.

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Liam O'Reilly

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Thanks everyone for all the suggestions. Going to try the document verification approach first and then call the SOS office if needed. Will update once I figure out what's going on.

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