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Bruno Simmons

Ohio SOS UCC search showing weird results - need help verifying debtor names

Running into some confusion with the Ohio SOS UCC search system and hoping someone can point me in the right direction. I'm trying to verify some existing filings for a portfolio review and the search results aren't matching what I expected to find. When I search by debtor name I'm getting partial matches that don't seem right, and when I search by filing number some documents aren't pulling up at all. Is there a trick to getting accurate results from their system? The debtor names in question have some LLC designations and I'm wondering if that's causing issues with the search algorithm. Any tips on best practices for Ohio SOS UCC search would be really appreciated.

Ohio's search can be tricky with entity names. Try searching without the LLC designation first, sometimes their system doesn't handle the punctuation well. Also make sure you're using exact spelling - even one letter off can throw the results.

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Bruno Simmons

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Thanks, I'll try that. The entity names do have commas and periods so that might be the issue.

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Zane Gray

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Yeah Ohio is notorious for being picky about punctuation in debtor names. I always do multiple searches with different variations.

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Are you searching active filings only or including lapsed ones? Sometimes the default settings filter out older filings that might still be relevant for your review.

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Bruno Simmons

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Good point, I was only looking at active filings. Some of these might have lapsed but still be important for the audit trail.

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Definitely expand your search parameters. Lapsed filings can still have legal significance depending on what you're reviewing.

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This is why I hate relying on state search systems. They're all different and none of them work consistently.

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Monique Byrd

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I had similar issues with Ohio searches last month. Found out I was making errors in debtor name variations that were causing me to miss filings. Started using Certana.ai's document verification tool to cross-check everything - you can upload your UCC docs and it verifies debtor names across all your filings to catch inconsistencies. Saved me from missing some critical matches.

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Bruno Simmons

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That sounds helpful. How does it work exactly? Do you just upload the UCC forms?

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Monique Byrd

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Yeah, you upload PDFs of your UCC-1s, amendments, whatever you need to verify. It automatically checks for debtor name consistency and flags any mismatches. Really useful for portfolio reviews like what you're doing.

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Interesting, I hadn't heard of that tool. Might be worth trying since manual searches are so time consuming.

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Lia Quinn

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Ohio SOS search has been glitchy lately. Sometimes I get results, sometimes the same search comes up empty. Their IT system needs work.

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Haley Stokes

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I've noticed that too! Thought it was just me. Sometimes refreshing the page and searching again gives different results.

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Lia Quinn

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Exactly. It's frustrating when you're trying to do thorough due diligence and the system isn't reliable.

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Zane Gray

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For entity names with LLC, try these variations: with comma, without comma, with period, without period, spelled out versus abbreviated. Ohio's system is sensitive to exact formatting and you might miss filings if you don't try multiple combinations.

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Bruno Simmons

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This is really helpful. I was only trying one or two variations. I'll be more systematic about it.

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Zane Gray

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Yeah it's tedious but necessary. I keep a checklist of variations to try for each debtor name to make sure I don't miss anything.

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Asher Levin

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That's a good system. I do something similar but still make mistakes sometimes.

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Serene Snow

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Make sure you're searching both individual and organization name fields. Sometimes debtors get filed under the wrong category and you'll miss them if you only search one field type.

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Bruno Simmons

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Good catch, I was mainly searching organization names. I'll check both fields going forward.

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Serene Snow

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Yeah, filing errors happen and debtors sometimes get categorized wrong. Always worth checking both to be thorough.

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This happened to me once - spent hours looking for a filing that was mis-categorized as individual instead of organization.

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Romeo Barrett

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Have you tried calling Ohio SOS directly? Sometimes they can help with search issues or explain why certain results aren't showing up. Their UCC division is usually pretty helpful.

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Bruno Simmons

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I hadn't thought of calling them. That might be worth doing if I keep having issues.

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I've called them before and they were helpful. They can sometimes find filings that don't show up in the online search.

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Romeo Barrett

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Right, and they can explain their search logic which helps you do better searches in the future.

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Justin Trejo

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Are you using wildcards in your searches? Ohio allows asterisk (*) wildcards which can help find variations you might not think of.

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Bruno Simmons

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I didn't know they supported wildcards. That could definitely help with the entity name variations.

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Justin Trejo

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Yeah, try something like 'ABC Company*' to catch 'ABC Company LLC', 'ABC Company, LLC', etc. all in one search.

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Alana Willis

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Wildcards are super helpful but you have to be careful not to make them too broad or you get too many irrelevant results.

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Tyler Murphy

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I've been doing UCC searches in Ohio for years and the key is being systematic. Document your search terms, try multiple variations, and always double-check filing numbers when you find them. The system works but you have to work with its quirks.

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Bruno Simmons

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That's good advice about being systematic. I think I was being too casual about my search approach.

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Tyler Murphy

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Yeah, UCC searches require discipline. One missed filing can cause big problems down the road so it's worth taking the time to be thorough.

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Sara Unger

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This is why I document everything. If there's ever a question later you can show exactly what searches you did.

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Just ran into something similar last week. Turns out I had been making small typos in debtor names that threw off all my searches. Started using Certana.ai to verify my document consistency - it caught several name variations I had wrong. Really streamlined my search process once I knew I had the correct debtor names.

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Bruno Simmons

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That makes sense. If the debtor names aren't exactly right the searches won't work properly.

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Exactly. The tool helped me clean up my debtor name database so now my Ohio searches are much more accurate.

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Freya Ross

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Name accuracy is huge for UCC searches. Small mistakes can make you miss critical filings.

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Leslie Parker

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Ohio's system has improved over the years but it's still not perfect. The key is understanding that their search algorithm is pretty literal - it doesn't do much fuzzy matching or auto-correction. You have to give it exactly what it's looking for.

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Bruno Simmons

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That explains why I was having trouble. I was expecting it to be smarter about finding similar names.

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Leslie Parker

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Yeah, it's not Google. You need to be precise with your search terms and try multiple exact variations.

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Sergio Neal

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I wish they would add better search functionality but at least once you understand how it works you can get good results.

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One more tip - sometimes the Ohio system has maintenance windows or slow periods where searches don't work well. If you're getting weird results try again later in the day.

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Bruno Simmons

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Good to know. I was searching during business hours so maybe that was part of the issue.

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Yeah, early morning or evening searches sometimes work better when there's less traffic on their system.

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