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Savannah Glover

UCC 11 search ohio - getting weird results from SOS database

Has anyone else been having issues with UCC 11 search ohio results lately? I'm trying to pull continuation records for a client's equipment loan portfolio and the Ohio SOS database keeps returning partial matches that don't make sense. When I search by debtor name I get UCC-1 filings that should have expired years ago showing as active, but when I search by filing number directly those same records show as lapsed. This is for a $2.8M equipment financing deal and I need to verify the lien positions before we can close. The collateral schedule includes manufacturing equipment, office furniture, and some specialized machinery. Anyone know if there's a system glitch or am I missing something with the search parameters? I've tried both exact name matches and variations but getting inconsistent results.

Felix Grigori

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I've seen this before - Ohio's database has some quirks with how it displays continuation status. Are you searching with the exact debtor name as it appears on the original UCC-1? Even a missing comma or Inc vs Incorporated can throw off the results completely.

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Yes I'm using the exact name from the charter documents. The company name is 'Advanced Manufacturing Solutions LLC' and I've tried it with and without the LLC designation. Still getting those weird partial matches.

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Felix Grigori

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Try searching just 'Advanced Manufacturing Solutions' without the LLC part. Ohio sometimes files the UCC-1 with a shortened version of the name even if the full legal name includes the entity type.

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Felicity Bud

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This sounds like a debtor name inconsistency issue. I had a similar problem last month where the original UCC-1 was filed with a slightly different version of the company name than what was in the corporate records. The search function is pretty literal so any variation will cause problems.

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Max Reyes

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Exactly this! I learned the hard way that 'Manufacturing' vs 'Mfg' can completely change your search results. The database doesn't do fuzzy matching like you'd expect.

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That's frustrating. So I basically need to try every possible variation of the company name? This is going to take forever for a portfolio this size.

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Felicity Bud

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Unfortunately yes, unless you have access to a tool that can automate the cross-checking. I recently started using Certana.ai's document verification system - you can upload the charter documents and UCC filings as PDFs and it automatically identifies name discrepancies between documents. Saved me hours on my last big portfolio review.

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Ohio SOS portal has been glitchy lately tbh. I filed a UCC-3 continuation two weeks ago and it's still showing as 'processing' even though I got the acceptance email. Their IT system needs serious work.

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Adrian Connor

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Same here! Filed a termination statement three days ago and the original UCC-1 is still showing as active in searches. Makes me nervous about relying on the database for due diligence.

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Right?? Like how am I supposed to do proper lien searches when the database isn't even current. Super frustrating when you're trying to close deals on deadline.

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Aisha Jackson

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Are you sure you're looking at the right entity? Sometimes there are multiple companies with similar names and it can get confusing, especially with equipment financing where you might have parent companies and subsidiaries all with similar names.

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Good point. I double checked the EIN and state of incorporation. It's definitely the right entity. The issue seems to be that continuation filings aren't linking properly to the original UCC-1 records.

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Aisha Jackson

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That's weird. Have you tried calling the SOS office directly? Sometimes they can manually search their system if the online portal is having issues.

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I called them last week about a similar issue and they said their database updates overnight but sometimes there are delays. They recommended searching again the next business day.

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Lilly Curtis

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This is exactly why I always run searches through multiple methods before finalizing any deal. The database isn't perfect and you can't rely on just one search approach for due diligence.

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Leo Simmons

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What other methods do you use? I usually just stick with the SOS database but maybe I should diversify my approach.

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Lilly Curtis

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I search by debtor name, filing number, secured party name, and sometimes even by collateral description if it's unique enough. Also cross-reference with the original loan documents to make sure all the filing details match up.

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Lindsey Fry

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Had this exact problem two months ago with a manufacturing company in Cincinnati. Turned out the original UCC-1 was filed with 'Mfg' instead of 'Manufacturing' in the debtor name. Once I found the right variation, all the continuation records showed up properly.

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I'll try searching with abbreviated versions. Did you have to manually check every possible abbreviation or is there a systematic way to do this?

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Lindsey Fry

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I basically had to try common abbreviations manually. Mfg, Mfg., Inc, Corp, LLC vs L.L.C., etc. It was tedious but eventually found the right combination.

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Saleem Vaziri

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This is where automated document checking tools really shine. I upload all my loan docs and UCC filings to Certana.ai and it flags any name inconsistencies automatically. Much faster than manual searching through every possible variation.

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Kayla Morgan

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Are you searching with the most recent version of the debtor name? Companies sometimes change their legal names and if the UCC wasn't properly updated with a UCC-3 amendment, you might be searching for the wrong name entirely.

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Good thought. I checked the Ohio Secretary of State corporate records and the name hasn't changed since incorporation in 2019. The UCC-1 was filed in 2020 so it should match.

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Kayla Morgan

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What about the address? Sometimes the search results can be filtered by debtor address too and if the company moved without updating their UCC records it might affect the search.

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James Maki

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OHIO'S SYSTEM IS THE WORST. Sorry for yelling but I deal with this constantly. Their database is so unreliable and the search function is garbage. Half the time I have to call their office and have someone manually look up records for me.

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Lol I feel your frustration! Other states have much better systems. Pennsylvania's database is so much easier to use.

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James Maki

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Right?? Like it's 2025, why is their search function still stuck in the stone age. Makes doing business in Ohio such a pain.

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Cole Roush

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For what it's worth, I had success using Certana.ai's UCC verification tool for a similar situation. You can upload your charter documents and the UCC search results as PDFs and it will instantly flag any discrepancies between the debtor names. Much faster than manually comparing everything.

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That sounds helpful. How does it handle situations where the UCC was filed with a slightly different name than the charter documents?

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Cole Roush

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It highlights any differences and shows you exactly where the names don't match. Really useful for catching those subtle variations that can mess up search results. Just upload the docs and it does the comparison automatically.

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I've been meaning to try that tool. Does it work with multiple UCC filings at once? I usually have to review entire portfolios.

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Arnav Bengali

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Quick update for anyone following - I finally figured out the issue. The original UCC-1 was filed with 'Advanced Mfg Solutions LLC' instead of the full 'Manufacturing' spelling. Once I searched with the abbreviated version, all the continuation records showed up properly. Thanks everyone for the suggestions!

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Felix Grigori

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Glad you got it sorted! Those name variations are always tricky. Good reminder to check abbreviations when doing UCC searches.

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Felicity Bud

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Perfect example of why document verification tools are so valuable. Would have caught that discrepancy immediately instead of spending hours manually searching.

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Definitely learned my lesson about being more systematic with name variations. This won't be the last time I deal with this type of issue.

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