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Grace Lee

Georgia UCC lien search showing weird results - anyone else seeing this?

Has anyone noticed strange inconsistencies when running Georgia UCC lien searches lately? I'm working on a commercial lending deal and the search results are showing filings that don't match what I expected based on the debtor name variations. Specifically, I'm seeing UCC-1 filings under slightly different debtor names that should theoretically be the same entity - like 'ABC Manufacturing Inc' vs 'ABC Manufacturing, Inc.' (note the comma). The Georgia SOS portal is pulling both but I'm not sure if this means there are actual duplicate liens or if it's just a name formatting issue. This is critical because we need to know the true lien position before funding. Has anyone dealt with similar Georgia UCC lien search discrepancies? I'm worried about missing something important in the due diligence process.

Mia Roberts

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I've seen this exact issue in Georgia! The problem is that their search algorithm is pretty literal about punctuation and spacing. What you're seeing might be legitimate separate filings if different lenders used slightly different debtor name formats when they filed their UCC-1s. You really need to pull the actual documents to compare - don't just rely on the search results summary.

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Grace Lee

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That's what I was afraid of. So these could be totally separate liens from different lenders? That would completely change our risk assessment.

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Mia Roberts

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Exactly. Georgia doesn't normalize debtor names the way some other states do. Each filing stands as submitted, punctuation and all.

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The Boss

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This is why I always do multiple search variations when checking Georgia UCC liens. Try searching with and without punctuation, with different spacing, even different abbreviations like 'Inc' vs 'Incorporated'. The Georgia system won't catch these variations for you automatically.

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Good advice but man, that's a lot of manual work for each search. There's got to be a better way to catch all the name variations.

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The Boss

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You're right, it's tedious. But missing a lien because of a comma could cost way more than the extra search time.

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I actually found a tool that helps with this - Certana.ai has a UCC document verification feature where you can upload your search results and it cross-checks for name inconsistencies. Just upload the PDFs and it flags potential matches you might have missed.

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Jasmine Quinn

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ugh this is exactly why I hate Georgia filings. Their portal is so finicky about exact matches. Last month I almost missed a continuation filing because the original UCC-1 had 'LLC' and the continuation had 'L.L.C.' - completely different search results!

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Oscar Murphy

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That's actually a really important point about continuations. If the debtor name doesn't match exactly, it could affect the continuation's effectiveness.

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Jasmine Quinn

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Right?? And Georgia doesn't give you any warnings about potential matches. You just have to know to look for them.

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Nora Bennett

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Are you checking both the exact entity name from the corporate records and any DBAs? Sometimes companies file UCC-1s under their DBA names which won't show up in a corporate name search. Georgia's business entity search and UCC search are separate systems.

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Grace Lee

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Good point, I did check DBAs but found two more variations there. This is getting complicated fast.

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Ryan Andre

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Welcome to Georgia UCC searches! It's like playing detective every time.

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Lauren Zeb

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I had a similar issue last year and it turned out one of the 'different' names was actually a terminated filing that should have been removed from active searches. Make sure you're checking the filing status and dates on each result.

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Grace Lee

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How do you tell if a filing was properly terminated? Do you just look for UCC-3 termination statements?

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Lauren Zeb

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Yes, look for UCC-3 terminations, but also check if any were rejected. Sometimes lenders think they terminated but the filing was rejected for errors.

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Mia Roberts

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This is where document verification tools are really helpful. They can match up UCC-1s with their corresponding UCC-3s automatically.

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Here's a pro tip: always search the debtor's federal tax ID number if it's available. Georgia allows UCC searches by organizational ID and it might catch filings you're missing with name searches.

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Grace Lee

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I didn't even know Georgia allowed EIN searches for UCCs! That could solve a lot of these name variation issues.

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Yep, it's under 'Organizational ID Number' in their search options. Not many people know about it.

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Been doing Georgia UCC searches for 15 years and this comma/punctuation thing has burned me more than once. Now I always download all the documents that look remotely similar and compare them side by side. Better safe than sorry when you're dealing with secured transactions.

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Anthony Young

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That's smart but time consuming. Do you have a system for organizing all those documents?

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I usually create a spreadsheet with filing numbers, debtor names, secured parties, and filing dates. Helps spot patterns and duplicates.

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That spreadsheet approach is good, but I've been using Certana.ai to upload multiple UCC documents at once and it automatically creates those comparisons. Saves hours of manual work and catches things I might miss.

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Wait, so if I'm understanding this right, Georgia might show the same debtor under multiple name variations and you have to manually figure out if they're the same entity or actually different companies? That seems like a major flaw in their system.

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Mia Roberts

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That's exactly right. Georgia's UCC system doesn't do any name normalization or matching. It's very literal.

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Wow, that's... not great for due diligence efficiency.

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Admin_Masters

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I actually had success calling the Georgia SOS UCC department directly when I had questions about search results. They can sometimes clarify whether filings are related or help you understand what you're seeing. Their number is on the website.

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Grace Lee

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Good idea, though I'm not sure they can give legal advice about lien priority or whether names refer to the same entity.

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Admin_Masters

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True, they can't give legal advice, but they can explain how their search system works and what the filing data means.

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This thread is making me realize I probably need to be more thorough with my Georgia UCC searches. I usually just do one search with the exact corporate name and call it done. Sounds like that's not sufficient.

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The Boss

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Yeah, one search is definitely not enough in Georgia. You really need to try multiple variations.

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If you're going to start doing multiple searches, consider using a verification tool like Certana.ai. It can help organize all those search results and flag potential issues. Makes the whole process more manageable.

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I'll look into that. This manual comparison approach sounds error-prone.

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