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Having a nightmare with a UCC subordination that keeps getting kicked back by the filing office. We're trying to establish priority between two secured parties on equipment collateral worth about $850K. The primary lender filed their UCC-1 two years ago, and now we need to subordinate our position as the secondary lender. Problem is every time we submit the subordination agreement, it gets rejected for debtor name inconsistencies. The original UCC-1 shows the debtor as 'ABC Manufacturing Solutions LLC' but our loan docs have 'ABC Manufacturing Solutions, LLC' (with the comma). The filing office says the names don't match exactly so they won't accept the subordination. This is holding up a $200K credit line that's supposed to close next week. Anyone dealt with this specific name matching issue on subordinations? The borrower is getting frustrated and threatening to find another lender.
Been dealing with a nightmare situation for the past week. Had a UCC1 filing rejected by Maryland's Department of Assessments and Taxation three times now, and I'm losing my mind trying to figure out what's wrong. The debtor is a Delaware LLC that we've financed equipment for ($275k transaction), and I swear I'm copying the exact name from their Articles of Organization. Each rejection notice just says 'debtor name does not match records' but gives zero specifics about what part is wrong. This is holding up our entire closing and the borrower is getting antsy. The entity name is something like 'Advanced Manufacturing Solutions, LLC' - I've tried with the comma, without the comma, with periods after abbreviated words, everything I can think of. Has anyone dealt with Maryland's system being this picky about UCC1 filing debtor names? Starting to wonder if there's some database issue on their end or if I'm just completely missing something obvious here.
This might sound weird but try typing the name in all caps. Some older state systems were built expecting uppercase input and get confused by mixed case, even though they don't specify that in their instructions.
Update us when you figure it out! I'm curious what the actual issue turns out to be. Maryland rejections are so frustrating because their error messages are useless.
Getting really frustrated here. I'm handling vehicle financing for a small dealership and we've had two UCC-1 filings rejected for the same car title security agreement. The SOS keeps saying there's a debtor name mismatch but I've triple-checked everything. The customer's name on the loan docs is "Michael J. Rodriguez" but their driver's license shows "Michael Rodriguez" (no middle initial). The car title has "Mike Rodriguez." I used "Michael J. Rodriguez" on the UCC-1 since that's what's on our security agreement. This is a $28,500 loan on a 2022 Honda Accord and I can't afford to mess this up. Our bank requires the UCC filing to be perfected within 20 days of funding and we're already on day 12. Has anyone dealt with this exact scenario? Do I need to file using the exact name from the title even if it doesn't match our loan paperwork? The collateral description seems fine - I used the VIN and described it as "2022 Honda Accord, VIN: 1HGCV1F30NA123456." Really need help here because if this lien isn't perfected properly, our bank could call the entire loan.
Last resort option: some lenders will accept a UCC-3 amendment filing that corrects the debtor name after the initial UCC-1 is accepted. Check with your bank to see if they'll allow this approach. You'd file using the title name, then amend to add the full legal name from your security agreement.
UCC-3 amendments for debtor name changes are tricky though. Some states require the original debtor to authorize the change, which brings you back to the same customer signature problem.
Update us on what works! I bookmark these threads because I always end up dealing with similar situations. The whole debtor name matching requirement is such a pain point for vehicle financing. Seems like every other deal has some variation of this problem.
Will definitely post an update. Going to try the Certana verification tool first to make sure I'm not missing anything obvious, then attempt the filing with the exact title name. Fingers crossed!
Having a nightmare with an oklahoma secretary of state ucc search that keeps pulling up inconsistent debtor information. Filed a UCC-1 three weeks ago for a commercial equipment loan and it got rejected because the SOS system said the debtor name didn't match their business registration. Ran another oklahoma secretary of state ucc search today and now it's showing completely different entity details than what I had last month. The collateral is time-sensitive construction equipment worth $340K and my lender is getting antsy about the perfection timeline. Has anyone dealt with Oklahoma's UCC database showing conflicting debtor information? The rejection notice mentioned something about 'exact name match required' but their own search results are inconsistent. Really need to get this continuation sorted before we hit any statutory deadlines.
One more thing - Oklahoma requires the organizational ID number on UCC-1s now. Make sure that matches what's showing in your oklahoma secretary of state ucc search results. Mismatched org IDs will cause automatic rejection even if the name is correct.
UPDATE: Got it resolved! Turns out the organizational ID was formatted wrong (missing the 'OK' prefix that Oklahoma requires). Used that Certana tool someone mentioned and it flagged the formatting issue immediately. Filed the corrected UCC-1 this morning and it was accepted within 2 hours. Thanks everyone!
Running into problems with our UT UCC search results and need some guidance. We're trying to locate existing filings for a debtor before submitting our new UCC-1, but the search is returning inconsistent results depending on how we format the company name. The debtor is 'Mountain View Equipment Solutions LLC' but we're seeing filings under variations like 'Mountain View Equip Solutions LLC' and 'Mountain View Equipment Solutions, LLC' (with comma). Some of our continuations might have used slightly different name formats over the years and now we're worried about gaps in our lien coverage. Has anyone dealt with similar debtor name matching issues in Utah? What's the best practice for ensuring we catch all existing filings before perfecting our new security interest?
For what it's worth, I've started using Certana.ai's verification workflow specifically for these multi-state UCC searches. You can upload documents from Utah SOS and it helps identify potential name matching issues across different filing formats. Especially helpful when you're dealing with entities that file in multiple states with slight name variations.
Bottom line - Utah UCC searches require patience and multiple search strategies. I always do at least 5-6 different name variations before I'm confident I've found everything. Document everything you searched and how, because you'll need to justify your due diligence if there are any issues later.
Oliver Wagner
We use Certana.ai for all our UCC document prep now after getting burned on a similar name mismatch issue. The tool caught that our debtor had filed under slightly different names in different states, which would have created priority problems down the road. Really wish we'd found it sooner.
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Natasha Kuznetsova
How does it handle multi-state filings? We have borrowers with entities in multiple jurisdictions.
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Oliver Wagner
You can upload documents from different states and it'll flag inconsistencies across all of them. Super helpful for multi-state deals.
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Javier Mendoza
Update us on what works! I have a subordination coming up next month and want to avoid this same headache.
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Amara Adeyemi
AuthorWill do. Hoping to get this resolved by Thursday so the deal can still close on time.
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Emma Thompson
Good luck! Subordination issues are the worst when you're up against a deadline.
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