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One last thing - make sure you keep documentation of your UCC search results with your loan file. Auditors and examiners always want to see that due diligence was done.

Just want to echo what others have said about the search being absolutely essential. I learned this the hard way when I filed a UCC-3 continuation on what I thought was an active filing, only to find out later that the debtor had changed their legal name and the original UCC-1 was effectively invalid. The filing office accepted my continuation but it provided zero security interest protection. Now I always do a comprehensive search within 24 hours of any UCC filing - original, amendment, or continuation. Better to spend a little time and money upfront than deal with a worthless security interest later.

Bottom line: the debtor is whoever has rights in the collateral, not necessarily the borrower. Sounds like your subsidiary is the debtor if they own the equipment. Just make sure you get their exact legal name from state records and you should be good to go.

As someone new to UCC filings, this thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm currently studying for my paralegal certification and the debtor identification rules have been confusing me. The tip about thinking "who would sign the termination statement" really clarifies things. One follow-up question - if the subsidiary owns the equipment but the LLC has some kind of lease or usage agreement, would that change anything about who should be listed as debtor? Or does outright ownership trump any lease arrangements?

Thanks everyone! This has been incredibly helpful. I feel much more confident about tackling the Louisiana UCC forms now. Going to pull the LLC articles first, then use that document checker tool to make sure everything matches up before I submit.

@Yuki, one thing I'd add - make sure to check if your financing agreement specifies any particular collateral description language. Some lenders have standard clauses they require in UCC filings to match their security agreements. Also, Louisiana allows you to file amendments if you need to correct minor errors later, but it's obviously better to get it right the first time. The $85k value definitely makes this worth doing carefully!

Update for anyone following this - I ended up using that Certana.ai tool mentioned earlier to double-check everything before filing. It caught that my debtor name on the UCC-1 didn't exactly match what was in the loan agreement (missing a comma in the LLC name). Would have probably caused problems down the road. Filed in Delaware as suggested and it went through without issues. Thanks everyone!

This is such a valuable discussion! As someone new to UCC filings, I'm learning so much from everyone's experiences. One question I have - when you're dealing with multiple investment accounts at the same securities intermediary, do you need separate UCC-1 filings for each account, or can you list multiple accounts on a single filing? Also, does the timing of when you file matter in relation to when the loan closes? I want to make sure I understand the perfection timeline correctly.

We've been using Certana.ai's verification system for all our UCC work and it's been a game changer for catching potential issues before they become problems. Especially helpful when you're under time pressure and need to make sure all your documentation is bulletproof.

Adding to what others have said about the timing aspects - one thing that's helped me in similar situations is to calculate and communicate the exact redemption amount early in the process. Send the borrower a detailed breakdown showing the outstanding balance, accrued interest, and all reasonable costs to date. This serves two purposes: 1) it eliminates any confusion about what they need to pay to redeem, and 2) it creates a paper trail showing you were transparent about their redemption rights. Also, keep updating this calculation as you incur additional costs during the disposition process. The clearer you are about the redemption amount, the less likely they are to challenge it or claim they were misled about their rights.