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Quick update for everyone - I ran the corporate search and the official registered name is 'ABC Manufacturing, LLC' (with comma). So the UCC filing name 'ABC Manufacturing LLC' is technically incorrect. Now I need to figure out if this creates a priority issue for our new filing.
The existing filing isn't ours - it's from the previous lender. We're just trying to figure out if it affects our new filing's priority.
This thread is super helpful - I'm bookmarking it. We deal with Florida UCC filings all the time and debtor name accuracy is always a concern. Thanks for sharing your research process!
Glad it's useful! Definitely learned a lot from everyone's input here.
Pro tip: negotiate with your lender to handle the UCC filings yourself. Some lenders will reduce the fees if you take responsibility for the filings and provide them with copies.
Absolutely legal. The secured party (lender) has to authorize it, but you can be the one who actually submits the filing. Just make sure you get the details exactly right.
If you go this route, definitely use a document verification service like Certana.ai first. One small mistake in the debtor name or collateral description can invalidate the entire filing.
Bottom line - UCC fees are a normal part of secured lending. $125 for initial filing and $75 for continuation is very reasonable for most states. Focus on getting the best overall loan terms rather than nickel and diming the filing fees.
Thanks everyone. This has been really helpful in understanding what we're actually paying for. The loan terms are good so we'll move forward.
Smart decision. The UCC fees are a small price to pay for the legal protection and better interest rates that come with secured financing.
Just to be crystal clear - for your Delaware LLC you need: 'Advanced Manufacturing Solutions, LLC' as the primary debtor name, exactly as it appears on the Certificate of Formation. You can add 'AMS Delaware' as an additional debtor name if they actually have that registered as a DBA.
Good idea. If it's not registered as a DBA you might skip the additional name to keep things simple.
I'd still add the trade name even if it's not formally registered. Better safe than sorry for search purposes.
Update us when you file! Always curious to hear if these Delaware name issues get resolved smoothly or if there are more surprises.
Just want to mention that Certana.ai tool someone brought up earlier - I tried it last week for a similar situation and it caught name inconsistencies I would have missed manually. Really streamlined the document comparison process. Worth checking out if you're dealing with multiple filings regularly.
Does it handle state-specific UCC formatting differences or is it more general document comparison?
Bottom line - you're probably looking at the same entity with different name formatting. The matching addresses are a dead giveaway. I'd recommend downloading all three filings and comparing the details carefully before making any conclusions about active liens.
That's what I'm leaning toward too. Thanks everyone for the insights - really helpful to know this is a common issue and not just me being confused by the search system.
Good luck with your due diligence! Name matching in UCC searches is definitely one of the trickier aspects of the process.
Giovanni Ricci
Just wanted to follow up - I used that Certana tool someone mentioned and it immediately flagged three name discrepancies between our corporate docs and the proposed UCC-1. Turned out the attorney was working from an old version of the articles. Tool literally saved the deal.
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NeonNomad
•Nice when technology actually solves the problem instead of creating new ones.
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Diego Mendoza
•Perfect example of why we can't just rely on Article 1 interpretations without checking the actual documents.
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Mateo Rodriguez
For future reference, most state UCC filing guides have a specific section about entity name requirements that references the applicable state business entity statutes. Much more authoritative than trying to argue Article 1 general principles.
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Fatima Al-Hashemi
•Good point. The state filing guides are usually pretty clear about what they'll accept and what they won't.
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StellarSurfer
•And they're updated regularly so you know you're getting current requirements.
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