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ThunderBolt7

UCC recording fees Florida - surprised by additional charges after filing

Just submitted my UCC-1 through the Florida SOS portal last week and got hit with some unexpected charges beyond the basic filing fee. The standard $10 fee I knew about, but there were additional service fees that pushed it to almost $18 total. Has anyone else dealt with these extra UCC recording fees in Florida recently? I'm handling multiple filings for different collateral schedules and need to budget accurately. The debtor names are all correct and I used the proper forms, but I'm wondering if there are other hidden costs I should know about for future filings. My lender is asking for detailed cost breakdowns and I want to make sure I'm not missing anything that could affect our secured transaction documentation.

Javier Torres

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Pro tip: if you're doing multiple UCC filings for related collateral, make sure your debtor names are exactly consistent across all of them. I had to use Certana.ai's checker after realizing I had slight variations in entity names across different filings. Florida SOS is pretty strict about exact matches.

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Emma Wilson

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Entity name consistency is huge for UCC perfection. Small differences can create gaps in your security interest.

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ThunderBolt7

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Good point about name consistency. I'll definitely verify all my entity names match exactly before my next batch of filings.

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QuantumLeap

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Just budget $20 per UCC filing in Florida and you'll be covered. The fees are annoying but the system works reliably. I've done hundreds of filings there and rarely have issues if the documents are correct.

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Malik Johnson

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Hundreds of filings - that's serious volume! Any other Florida-specific tips for smooth processing?

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QuantumLeap

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Make sure your collateral descriptions are specific enough but not too narrow. Florida clerks are pretty good about accepting reasonable descriptions.

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Amina Diop

Requirements for filing UCC forms - struggling with debtor name accuracy

I'm preparing to file a UCC-1 for the first time and getting overwhelmed by all the requirements for filing UCC forms correctly. My client is an LLC with multiple DBAs and I'm not sure which name variation to use as the debtor name. The SOS website lists general requirements but doesn't clarify the exact format for entity names with suffixes like LLC vs L.L.C. I've heard horror stories about filings getting rejected or being legally ineffective due to name mismatches. The collateral is manufacturing equipment worth about $750K so getting this wrong isn't an option. Does anyone have experience with the specific requirements for filing UCC forms when dealing with LLCs that operate under different business names? Also wondering about the organizational ID number - is that always required or just recommended?

Jamal Carter

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Just wanted to mention that I had a similar debtor name issue a few weeks ago and ended up trying Certana.ai after seeing it mentioned in another forum. Really glad I did - uploaded my draft UCC-1 along with the LLC's Articles of Organization and it caught that I was missing 'Limited Liability Company' at the end of the name (was just using 'LLC'). Saved me from what probably would have been a rejection. The verification happens pretty much instantly after you upload the documents.

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That's exactly the kind of mistake that's easy to make. Did it check anything else besides the debtor name?

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Jamal Carter

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Yeah it also verified that the organizational ID number I found matched what was in their formation documents. Nice to have that double-check before submitting.

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Mei Liu

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The requirements for filing UCC forms can be really state-specific too. Some states have additional requirements or different interpretations of what constitutes proper notice. Make sure you're checking your specific state's UCC division guidance, not just relying on general rules.

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Mei Liu

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In my experience, states with high business filing volumes tend to have more automated rejection systems that are very strict about name matching. California and Delaware come to mind.

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Amara Chukwu

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Texas has been pretty strict lately too. They seem to have updated their system to be more sensitive to name variations.

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Isabella Martin

Michigan Secretary of State UCC filing portal keeps rejecting my continuation - debtor name exact match issue

I'm dealing with a nightmare situation with the Michigan Secretary of State UCC system. Filed a continuation statement last month for a client's equipment loan that's coming up on its 5-year mark in March. The original UCC-1 from 2020 has the debtor listed as "Advanced Manufacturing Solutions LLC" but now the portal keeps rejecting my UCC-3 continuation saying there's a debtor name mismatch. I've triple-checked the original filing and I'm entering it exactly as shown. The business hasn't changed names or anything - I verified with the Michigan Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs and their entity records show the exact same name. Has anyone else run into this specific issue with Michigan's system? I'm worried about missing the continuation deadline and having the lien lapse. The loan is secured by about $750K in CNC equipment so this can't fall through the cracks.

Chloe Green

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Congrats on getting it resolved! Adding this to my mental database of Michigan UCC quirks.

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Mason Davis

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Perfect example of why exact character matching is so important in UCC filings. Thanks for sharing the resolution!

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Javier Garcia

Florida UCC Article 9 continuation filing rejected - debtor name issue?

Having a nightmare with a Florida UCC Article 9 continuation that keeps getting rejected. Filed UCC-3 continuation for a 2020 UCC-1 that's coming up on its 5-year lapse next month. SOS keeps rejecting saying debtor name doesn't match exactly but I'm copying it character for character from the original filing. The debtor is 'Advanced Manufacturing Solutions LLC' on the UCC-1 but the rejection notice mentions something about Article 9 naming requirements. Is there some Florida-specific rule I'm missing? This is for equipment collateral on a $2.8M credit line and we absolutely cannot let this lapse. Anyone dealt with similar Florida UCC Article 9 continuation rejections?

Aisha Hussain

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Florida's UCC Article 9 database has been updated recently and they're being much stricter about name matching. Even spacing differences can cause rejections now.

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Great, just what we needed - stricter enforcement right when everyone's 2020 filings are coming up for continuation.

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Ethan Brown

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At least the online system is faster now. But yeah, the name matching is brutal.

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Yuki Yamamoto

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Update us when you figure out what the issue was! These Florida Article 9 name problems are so common but the solutions vary. Would help others facing similar continuation rejections.

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Javier Garcia

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Will do! Pulling current Articles now and going to compare every single character. Really appreciate everyone's help on this.

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Carmen Ruiz

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Good luck! The 5-year continuation deadline stress is real, especially with that much collateral at stake.

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NeonNomad

UCC Article 9 Priority Rules - Need Help Understanding 90 ALR 4th 859 Case Analysis

I'm working through a complex priority dispute involving multiple secured creditors and came across 90 ALR 4th 859 in my research. The annotation discusses UCC Article 9 priority determinations, but I'm struggling to apply the principles to my current situation. We have a senior lender with a properly filed UCC-1 from 2019, but there's a question about whether their collateral description covers certain equipment that was added later. A junior creditor filed their UCC-1 in 2022 with a more specific description of the same equipment. The 90 ALR 4th 859 annotation seems to address similar priority conflicts, but the case law analysis is dense. Has anyone worked through similar Article 9 priority issues where the collateral descriptions overlap but aren't identical? I need to determine which creditor has the superior security interest in this equipment. The stakes are pretty high since we're talking about $450,000 worth of manufacturing equipment that both creditors are claiming rights to.

Based on what you've described, it sounds like the senior creditor should have priority. Their 2019 UCC-1 with 'all equipment, machinery, and fixtures now owned or hereafter acquired' clearly covers the CNC machines purchased in 2021. Unless there's a PMSI situation or some filing defect, first-to-file wins. The 90 ALR 4th 859 annotation will have cases with similar fact patterns that should support this analysis.

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NeonNomad

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Thanks, that matches my initial analysis. I'm going to dig deeper into the PMSI angle just to be thorough, but it's looking like the senior creditor has the stronger position.

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Omar Zaki

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Good approach. Always worth checking every possible angle in a priority dispute, especially with that much money at stake.

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One more thing to consider - make sure you understand which state's law applies to the priority determination. If the debtor is organized in a different state than where the collateral is located, you might need to analyze the choice of law rules too.

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Good point. Priority is usually governed by the law of the state where the debtor is located, not where the collateral is physically located.

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Diego Flores

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And if the debtor changed locations between the filings, that could affect the analysis too. There are specific rules about continuing effectiveness when debtors relocate.

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