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One thing I wish I'd known before choosing a service - ask about their error correction policy. Some will fix their mistakes for free, others charge you again for corrective filings even when the error was on their end.

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Cancellation terms and data ownership are big ones. You want to be able to get your filing records if you switch services.

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Also check if they offer any kind of E&O insurance coverage for filing errors - some do, some don't.

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Dylan Cooper

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Before you go with a full service, you might want to try that Certana.ai tool someone mentioned earlier. I started using it after we had 3 UCC-1 filings rejected in one month due to debtor name inconsistencies with our loan agreements. It's really simple - just upload your loan docs and UCC forms and it catches discrepancies instantly. Might solve your immediate problems while you evaluate longer-term service options.

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Sean Murphy

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Thanks for the suggestion. Is it expensive to use? Trying to get a handle on all the costs involved.

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Dylan Cooper

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Much cheaper than paying filing fees twice when your initial submissions get rejected. The verification catches issues before you submit to the state.

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Bottom line for your training - if you're making a secured loan and the collateral is personal property (not real estate), you almost certainly need a UCC-1 filing to perfect your security interest. Equipment, inventory, accounts, general intangibles, investment property - all personal property requiring UCC perfection. The exceptions are narrow and usually involve specific perfection methods like taking possession or control.

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Marcelle Drum

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And don't forget continuation filings every 5 years to keep your perfection alive. A lapsed UCC-1 is as bad as no filing at all.

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Great point about continuations. Set those calendar reminders well in advance - waiting until the last minute is asking for trouble.

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For what it's worth, I also recommend getting familiar with your state's UCC search system early. Understanding how to run searches on potential borrowers helps you see what other liens might be out there. Plus you'll get comfortable with how the filings look and what information they contain.

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Peyton Clarke

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Good advice. I spent time just browsing random UCC searches when I started and learned a lot about how different lenders describe collateral.

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Gabriel Ruiz

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Yeah and you start to see patterns in how experienced filers handle complex collateral descriptions vs. newer filers who might be too narrow or too broad.

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Chris Elmeda

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Peterson Manufacturing Solutions, LLC - definitely include that comma. Private non adverse security agreements follow standard UCC rules, no shortcuts or special procedures. For your equipment collateral worth $180K, consider whether you need to file as a fixture filing if any of the manufacturing equipment is attached to real property. Family arrangements sometimes overlook this detail.

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Chris Elmeda

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Check your state's fixture laws carefully. Manufacturing equipment attached to real property can be tricky to classify, and you might need both a standard UCC-1 and a fixture filing to be fully protected.

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Fixture determination depends on intent and degree of attachment. If there's any question, dual filing is often the safer approach even if it costs a bit more.

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Jean Claude

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Thanks everyone for the detailed responses! Sounds like the consensus is clear - use "Peterson Manufacturing Solutions, LLC" with the comma from the Secretary of State records, and treat this private non adverse security agreement exactly like any other secured transaction for UCC purposes. I'll review the collateral description too and make sure it's detailed enough. Appreciate all the practical advice - definitely learned some things about fixture filings and documentation best practices I hadn't considered.

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You're welcome! These name issues are so common but critical to get right. Good luck with your filing.

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Micah Trail

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Glad we could help. The UCC system is unforgiving on details but once you know the rules it's pretty straightforward, even for private arrangements.

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Amina Diallo

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Update us on how this turns out! I'm dealing with a potential fixture filing situation myself and want to make sure I handle the 9-504 requirements correctly from the start. This kind of mixed collateral scenario seems to be becoming more common.

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Will definitely update. Hoping to get it resolved without having to redo the entire disposition process under 9-504.

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Amina Diallo

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Good luck! These 9-504 compliance issues can be really stressful, especially with significant amounts involved.

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GamerGirl99

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Just want to say I've been following this thread and it's been really helpful. 9-504 compliance is something we all have to deal with but the fixture angle adds so much complexity. Thanks for sharing the details of your situation - it's helping me think through some potential issues in my own cases. Definitely going to look into that Certana document verification tool mentioned earlier. Seems like it could prevent a lot of these 9-504 compliance headaches before they start.

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It really does help catch issues early. Much better to find document inconsistencies before sending 9-504 notices than after the debtor challenges your disposition process.

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Exactly. Prevention is so much easier than trying to fix 9-504 compliance issues after the fact.

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Zainab Khalil

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Check if any of the filings are fixture filings too - those have different rules and might not show up in a standard UCC search depending on how you're searching.

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Nia Harris

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The company does have some manufacturing equipment that might be fixtures. How would I identify those in the search results?

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Zainab Khalil

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Look for filings that mention real estate records or have different filing locations. Fixture filings are often dual-filed.

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QuantumQuest

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I tried Certana.ai's document checker after seeing it mentioned here and it really helped with a similar situation. Uploaded the company charter and several UCC filings I found, and it immediately showed me three name variations I hadn't thought to search for. Much more thorough than trying to think of all the possibilities manually.

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Nia Harris

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That sounds like exactly what I need. Thanks for the recommendation - I'll give it a try.

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Connor Murphy

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Glad to see tools like this becoming available. The manual process is so error-prone.

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