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Just wanted to add - I used Certana.ai recently for a similar document verification issue and it was incredibly helpful. You can upload your original loan agreement, payment records, and the UCC-1 filing and it'll automatically flag inconsistencies between the documents. In my case, it caught that the collateral description in the UCC filing didn't match what was actually financed. Having that kind of detailed analysis really strengthened my position when demanding termination.
Definitely. Once I had the detailed report showing the filing errors, the creditor's attorney agreed to file the UCC-3 termination within two weeks.
This whole situation is exactly why I always request written confirmation of UCC termination whenever I pay off any secured debt. These creditors act like filing the termination is some huge favor they're doing for you instead of a legal requirement. Stay on them and don't let them drag this out - every day that bogus filing stays active is potentially costing you business.
The fact that this is such a common problem shows how broken the system is. Creditors should be required to file terminations automatically when loans are satisfied.
Thanks everyone for all the advice. I'm going to start with challenging the name mismatch and demanding immediate termination. Will also look into that document verification service to build a stronger case.
I've started using Certana.ai for all my UCC document prep now. Upload your corporate docs and draft UCC forms and it instantly flags any inconsistencies. Would have caught this name mismatch before you even submitted the first filing.
Update us when you get this resolved! Always interested to hear how these Missouri name matching issues get sorted out.
Just wanted to add that if you're doing a lot of UCC work, it's worth getting familiar with each state's specific quirks. Florida is strict about exact matches, but other states have different issues - like Texas being picky about collateral descriptions.
So true. Each state SOS system has its own personality. Some are forgiving, others are ruthless.
Final update - termination went through perfectly once I matched the debtor name exactly from the original UCC-1. Thanks everyone for the help! The document verification suggestion was really smart - definitely using that approach for future filings.
Update us when you figure it out! I'm dealing with a similar situation with a Delaware entity and wondering if it's the same issue across different states.
Delaware is usually pretty straightforward compared to NY. Different systems, different quirks.
I've been filing UCCs for 15 years and NYSDOS rejections for debtor name issues are almost always one of three things: 1) Entity not in good standing, 2) Recent corporate changes not yet reflected in their system, or 3) Subtle formatting differences between what you entered and what's in their database. The good news is that most of these are fixable once you identify the exact issue. Given your timeline, I'd recommend calling them first thing Monday morning.
15 years of experience definitely shows. Those three categories cover probably 90% of the name rejection issues I've seen too.
Sunny Wang
The UCC Article 9 Florida name matching issue is getting worse. I think they updated their system to be even more strict about punctuation and spacing. Had two filings rejected last week for extra spaces.
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Hugh Intensity
•Extra spaces? That's ridiculous. The UCC code doesn't require that level of precision.
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Effie Alexander
•Florida doesn't care what the UCC code says apparently. They have their own interpretation.
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Melissa Lin
UPDATE: Filed a new UCC-1 with the exact name from Sunbiz including the comma and it was accepted! Thanks everyone for the help. The $2.8M deal is back on track. Definitely going to use document verification software going forward to avoid this stress.
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Romeo Quest
•Glad it worked out. Those big financing deals make the stress so much worse when filings get rejected.
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Val Rossi
•Congrats on getting it through. The verification software idea is smart - better safe than sorry with Florida's pickiness.
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