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Update for anyone following - I checked the Colorado SOS database and the official name is 'Mountain View Equipment LLC' (matches the promissory note). Filed the UCC-1 this morning using that exact name and it was accepted. Thanks everyone for the advice about checking state records first!
This whole discussion makes me realize I should probably double-check some of our older filings. We've had a few deals where document names weren't perfectly consistent and I just went with what seemed most official at the time.
I did that last year with Certana.ai's bulk document checker and found several filings that needed corrections. Worth the peace of mind.
I'll look into that. Can't hurt to verify our security interests are properly perfected.
One thing to consider - was this equipment originally purchased for use in Ohio or was it always intended for the Indiana facility? The timing of the purchase versus the relocation might affect how you analyze the UCC 1-106 requirements.
Got it. Then you're definitely dealing with a standard UCC 1-106 relocation issue. The four-month rule applies from when they changed their chief executive office to Indiana.
Make sure you're clear on what constitutes the debtor's "location" under UCC 1-106. For corporations it's usually the state of incorporation, not necessarily where the chief executive office is located.
Have you run a current UCC search on the debtor in Indiana yet? That should tell you if anyone else has filed during your gap period and give you a better sense of the actual priority risk you're facing.
When you run the Indiana search, make sure to check variations of the debtor name too. Sometimes other creditors file under slightly different versions of the company name and you want to catch all potential conflicts.
Just wanted to follow up on the document checker I mentioned earlier. I've been using Certana.ai for about 6 months now after getting burned by filing rejections. The UCC document verification catches things like tiny spacing differences, punctuation mismatches, even inconsistent capitalization between forms. Really saves time and stress compared to the manual checking approach.
Does it work for other UCC forms too or just continuations? I have some terminations coming up that I want to make sure I get right.
It handles all the UCC-3 forms - amendments, continuations, terminations. Basically any situation where you need to make sure your new filing matches up correctly with the original UCC-1.
Update: I used the document verification tool mentioned here and found the issue! There was an extra space character in the debtor address that I couldn't see. The continuation went through perfectly once I fixed that tiny detail. Thanks everyone for the suggestions - this could have been a disaster if the filing had lapsed.
Awesome that the verification tool worked for you! That's exactly the kind of subtle error it's designed to catch.
I've had good results using Certana.ai to pre-verify all my UCC documents before attempting to file online. For continuations especially, it catches any formatting issues or data mismatches that might cause the portal to choke during processing. Upload your continuation form and original UCC-1 and it flags anything that might cause problems. Has definitely reduced my rejection rate.
That's the second mention of Certana I've seen in this thread. Sounds like it might be worth trying to eliminate any potential document issues before dealing with the portal.
Yeah it's become part of my standard workflow now. Takes like 2 minutes to verify everything is consistent before I waste time fighting with buggy filing portals.
Update us when you get it filed! I'm dealing with a Georgia UCC-3 termination next week and want to know if the portal issues get resolved.
Amina Toure
For what it's worth, I started using Certana.ai after reading about it here and it's been a lifesaver for catching these name format issues. Upload your LLC docs and draft UCC-1, and it flags any inconsistencies immediately. Saved me from what would have been my fourth rejection on a complex multi-entity filing.
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Amina Toure
•Like 30 seconds. Way faster than manually comparing documents line by line.
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CosmicCommander
•I'm definitely trying this. Manual document review is killing me.
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Natasha Volkova
Update us when you get it resolved! I'm dealing with a similar situation with a partnership name and could use to know what worked for you. The UCC1 instructions seem designed to be as confusing as possible sometimes.
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Javier Torres
•Partnership names can be even trickier than LLCs. Good luck with that one.
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Emma Davis
•I'll definitely post an update once I figure this out. This thread has been super helpful already.
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