FAFSA question about orphan/ward status for 18-year-old with deceased mother and absent father
I'm helping my niece with her FAFSA application for 2025-2026 and we're stuck on a specific question. Her situation changed dramatically since her last application. Her mother passed away in November, and her father has been out of the picture for years (whereabouts unknown). She's 18 now and staying with her grandmother. I know she's considered independent for FAFSA purposes due to her circumstances, but we're confused about whether she should be classified as an "orphan, ward of the state, or in legal guardianship". Her grandmother has custody of her younger siblings (filed in another state), but since my niece is 18, we're not sure if any of these categories apply to her or if we should select "none of the above". This seems like a technicality, but I don't want to answer incorrectly and mess up her financial aid. Anyone dealt with a similar situation or know the right way to answer this for an 18-year-old with deceased/absent parents?
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Micah Trail
Since your niece is already 18, she wouldn't be considered under legal guardianship even if her grandmother has custody of the younger siblings. For FAFSA purposes, she would qualify as independent due to being an orphan (both parents deceased/absent), but the specific classification depends on when this occurred. To be classified as an orphan, both parents must be deceased, or the student must have been in foster care or a ward of the court at any time since age 13. In your niece's case, with one parent deceased and one parent's whereabouts unknown, she may not technically fit the "orphan" definition for FAFSA. I recommend selecting "None of the above" for that specific question, but make sure to answer "Yes" to the independent student questions that ask about having no living parents or being unable to locate parents. There should be a separate question addressing her specific situation.
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Kristin Frank
•Thank you for clarifying! I was worried about that orphan definition since technically her father is still alive somewhere. We'll select "None of the above" for that question and make sure to properly indicate her independent status elsewhere on the form.
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Nia Watson
Went through this with my cousin last yr. If 1 parent is dead but the other one is just missing (not legally declared dead), she's not technically an 'orphan' by FAFSA rules. She should pick 'none of above' for that question. She'll still get independent status bc of her situation but through a different question on the form.
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Kristin Frank
•That makes sense. It's confusing because the term "orphan" in everyday language often means having lost even one parent, but FAFSA has more specific definitions. Thanks for sharing your experience with your cousin!
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Alberto Souchard
This is an important distinction for FAFSA purposes. Here's exactly what she should do: 1. Answer "None of the above" for the orphan/ward/legal guardianship question 2. On the separate dependency questions, she should indicate that both parents are unavailable (one deceased, one whereabouts unknown) 3. She may need to get a dependency override from her school's financial aid office to confirm her independent status 4. She should gather documentation - death certificate for her mother and perhaps a letter from a professional (counselor, social worker, etc.) confirming her father's absence The system is designed to catch these situations, but sometimes requires additional documentation. The key is answering accurately - don't try to fit into a category if it doesn't precisely match her situation.
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Kristin Frank
•This is exactly what we needed! Thank you for the clear steps and the suggestion about gathering documentation. I'll make sure she has her mother's death certificate and we'll look into getting a professional to verify her father's absence.
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Katherine Shultz
my fafsa got messed up bcuz i checked orphan when i shoulda picked 'none of above.' got flagged for verification and had to go thru a whole process with fin aid office. trust me dont put orphan unless BOTH parents are gone
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Kristin Frank
•Wow, that sounds like a headache! Thanks for the warning - we definitely want to avoid getting flagged for verification if possible.
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Marcus Marsh
The FAFSA dependency questions are INCREDIBLY confusing! I spent 3 days trying to reach someone at Federal Student Aid to clarify a similar situation for my brother. Constant busy signals and disconnections. I finally tried Claimyr (claimyr.com) and got through to a live agent in under 10 minutes. They have this cool system that holds your place in line and calls you back when an agent is available. Saved me hours of frustration! They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/TbC8dZQWYNQ The agent confirmed that for orphan status, BOTH parents must be deceased. In your case, "None of the above" is correct, but she'll still qualify as independent through other questions.
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Kristin Frank
•Thank you for the suggestion! If we run into any more complicated questions that need clarification, I'll definitely check out that service. Waiting on hold for hours is the worst, especially with these important financial aid deadlines.
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Hailey O'Leary
I work at a college financial aid office, and this is a common situation. Here's what we advise: 1. For the specific orphan/ward/guardianship question: select "None of the above" 2. She will still qualify as independent due to having one deceased parent and one absent parent, but through different questions 3. IMPORTANT: She should prepare for a possible Special Circumstances review. Many schools will request additional documentation for her situation, especially since it's a recent change from her previous FAFSA 4. Her SAI (Student Aid Index, formerly EFC) calculation will be based solely on her income/assets without parental information Financial aid officers have discretion in these cases, so she should contact her college's financial aid office directly once she submits her FAFSA.
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Kristin Frank
•This is incredibly helpful, especially coming from someone who works in financial aid! I'll make sure she's prepared for that Special Circumstances review and knows to connect with the financial aid office after submitting. Should she mention her changed circumstances in the additional comments section of the FAFSA as well?
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Hailey O'Leary
•Yes, absolutely! She should definitely use the comments section to briefly explain her situation. Something like: "Mother deceased November 2024, father's whereabouts unknown for X years. Currently residing with grandmother who has legal custody of siblings. Documentation available upon request." This flags the application for financial aid officers and can help streamline the process.
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Cedric Chung
dont colleges also look at ur grandparents income if ur living with them? my friend got denied more aid cuz his grandma had too much $$ even tho she wasnt giving him any
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Alberto Souchard
•That's not how FAFSA works. If a student qualifies as independent (which OP's niece does due to parental situation), only the student's income/assets are considered - not grandparents or other relatives they live with. Your friend might have had a different situation or the college was using a different formula (like CSS Profile which some private colleges use that does sometimes consider extended family).
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Cedric Chung
•oh thx for explaining! maybe it was css profile thing then
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Kristin Frank
Update: We went ahead and selected "None of the above" for the orphan/ward question and made sure to indicate that her mother is deceased and father's whereabouts unknown on the other questions. We also added details in the comments section as suggested. I'm so grateful for everyone's help! This has been an emotional process for her on top of the usual FAFSA stress. She's determined to get through college despite everything that's happened. Thank you all for the guidance - it really means a lot to both of us.
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Micah Trail
•You're doing a wonderful thing helping your niece through this difficult time. The FAFSA system can be challenging to navigate even in typical circumstances, let alone with her recent loss. Please don't hesitate to come back if you have more questions as you go through the financial aid process. Wishing her all the best with her education!
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Hailey O'Leary
•That sounds perfect! Make sure she keeps all documentation (mother's death certificate, any legal documents, etc.) readily available for when the financial aid office requests it. And remember she can always request a professional judgment review if her financial situation has changed dramatically since the tax year being used for the FAFSA.
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Teresa Boyd
I'm so glad to see this worked out for you and your niece! As someone who's helped several students navigate similar situations, I wanted to add one more tip: keep copies of everything you submit and any correspondence with the financial aid office. Sometimes schools will ask for the same documentation multiple times, and having everything organized will save you both time and stress. Also, remind your niece that she may be eligible for additional state aid programs for students in her situation. Many states have special grants or scholarships for students who have experienced parental loss or are aging out of care systems. It's worth checking with her state's higher education agency. Your niece is lucky to have such a caring advocate helping her through this process. Education can be incredibly healing and empowering after experiencing such losses. Best of luck to both of you!
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Ravi Patel
•Thank you so much for the additional advice! I hadn't thought about keeping copies of everything - that's really smart given how many different offices might request the same documents. And I definitely want to look into those state aid programs you mentioned. It's amazing how many resources are available that we might not know about otherwise. Your point about education being healing really resonates with me - I've seen how focused my niece has become on her goals despite everything she's been through. It gives her hope and purpose during such a difficult time.
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Yara Nassar
I'm really glad to see so many people helping with this situation! As someone who went through something similar a few years ago, I wanted to add that it's also worth checking if your niece's college has an emergency aid fund or hardship grants available. Many schools have these funds specifically for students dealing with unexpected family crises like loss of a parent. Also, once she gets her aid package, don't be afraid to appeal if it doesn't seem adequate given her circumstances. Financial aid offices often have more flexibility than people realize, especially for students who have experienced recent traumatic changes in their family situation. The fact that she has you advocating for her makes such a huge difference. Having a supportive adult who understands the system can be the difference between getting the help she needs and falling through the cracks. Keep being her champion!
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Diego Vargas
•This is such valuable advice! I hadn't even considered emergency aid funds or hardship grants - that's definitely something we should look into once she gets her financial aid package. The idea of appealing if the aid isn't adequate is also really helpful to know. Sometimes I feel like we're navigating this whole process blind, so hearing from people who've been through similar situations is incredibly reassuring. Thank you for the encouragement about advocating for her - it can feel overwhelming at times, but she deserves every opportunity to succeed despite the challenges she's facing.
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Sarah Ali
This thread has been so helpful to follow! I'm a financial aid counselor at a community college, and I see situations like your niece's more often than people might think. One thing I'd add is to make sure she applies for FAFSA renewal each year and keeps her contact information updated with the school - sometimes students in transitional living situations miss important financial aid communications. Also, if she's planning to attend a community college first, many have specific support programs for students who are independent due to family circumstances. These programs often include not just financial assistance, but also academic support, counseling services, and help with basic needs like food and housing. Your niece is incredibly fortunate to have someone like you helping her navigate this. The combination of getting her FAFSA right and connecting with the right support services at her school will set her up for success. Don't hesitate to reach out to the financial aid office early and often - we're here to help students exactly like her.
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Nia Wilson
•Thank you so much for this insight! As someone new to helping navigate financial aid, I really appreciate hearing from professionals who work with these situations regularly. The point about keeping contact information updated is especially important - with my niece staying with her grandmother temporarily, we want to make sure she doesn't miss any critical communications. I'll definitely look into the support programs you mentioned, especially since she's considering starting at a community college. It sounds like there are so many resources available that we might not even know about yet. Your encouragement means a lot during what has been a really overwhelming process for both of us.
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Abigail bergen
I'm a college student who went through a similar situation when I was 17 - lost my mom and had an absent father. Just wanted to share that while the FAFSA process can feel really overwhelming (especially during grief), getting it right is so worth it. The independent status opened up way more financial aid for me than I ever expected. One thing that really helped me was creating a simple folder with copies of all my documents - death certificate, any court papers, letters from counselors, etc. I ended up needing these same documents for multiple schools and scholarship applications, not just FAFSA. Also, don't be surprised if different colleges handle her situation slightly differently. Some were more proactive about reaching out to help, while others required me to initiate contact. The key is being persistent and not being afraid to ask questions. Your niece is so lucky to have you helping her through this. Having someone who cares enough to research and ask the right questions makes all the difference. She's going to do great!
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Aidan Percy
•Thank you so much for sharing your personal experience - it really helps to hear from someone who has actually been through this! I love the idea of creating a document folder with copies of everything. That's such practical advice, especially knowing she'll likely need the same documents for multiple schools and scholarships. Your point about different colleges handling situations differently is also really good to know - I'll make sure we stay proactive and don't just wait for them to reach out. It's encouraging to hear that the independent status ended up opening more doors for financial aid than you expected. That gives me hope that despite all the challenges, this could actually work out well for her education goals.
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Admin_Masters
I'm new to this community but wanted to chime in as someone who works with students in transitional situations. Your niece's case is actually more common than people realize, and it sounds like you're handling it exactly right by selecting "None of the above" for the orphan/ward question. One additional resource I'd suggest looking into is the National Association of Student Financial Aid Administrators (NASFAA) website - they have great explanations of dependency status rules that can help you understand exactly why certain answers are required. It might give you both more confidence in your FAFSA responses. Also, many states have "former foster youth" or "homeless/unaccompanied youth" liaisons in their education departments who can provide guidance even for students who don't fit those exact categories but are in similar transitional situations. These folks often know about additional funding sources and support programs. You're doing an incredible job advocating for your niece during such a difficult time. The thoroughness you're showing in getting this right will pay off when she starts receiving aid packages.
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