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Lourdes Fox

FAFSA and independent 21-year-old daughter - do I still need to be on her application?

My daughter just turned 21 and hasn't lived with me for almost 2 years now. She's applying for financial aid and I'm confused about whether I still need to contribute to her FAFSA as a parent. She pays her own rent, buys her own food, and files her own taxes. I'm currently in NY but planning to relocate to Florida in the next few months. Does my potential move affect anything? Will she need my tax info even though she's been supporting herself? I really don't want to mess up her aid by doing this wrong.

Bruno Simmons

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Unfortunately, age alone doesn't make her independent for FAFSA purposes. At 21, she's still considered a dependent student unless she meets specific criteria. The main ones are: married, veteran/military, has dependents she supports, orphan/ward of court, homeless/at risk, or has a dependency override approved by her school's financial aid office. Her living separately and supporting herself doesn't automatically qualify her as independent for FAFSA.

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Lourdes Fox

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That's frustrating! She's been on her own for 2 years. So even though she files her own taxes and pays all her own expenses, they still consider her my dependent? Does my upcoming move out of state change anything?

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I went thru this EXACT thing w/ my son!! So annoying. FAFSA doesn't care if they're financially independent in real life. My son was 22, hadn't lived with us for 3 yrs, we didn't claim him on taxes, but STILL had to provide all our info. The whole system is rigged against middle-class families!!!!

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Zane Gray

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Same situation with my daughter. She was working full-time and living on her own for 2 years but still needed my info. Had to dig up all my tax records and everything.

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To give you the most accurate information: For the 2025-2026 FAFSA, your daughter will be considered a dependent student unless she meets one of the specific criteria for independence. Simply living apart and being self-supporting is not enough. You will need to provide your financial information (including tax returns) regardless of whether you support her financially or claim her on your taxes. Regarding your move: Your state of residence doesn't affect federal aid calculations, but it could potentially impact state-based financial aid if she's applying in NY. Your daughter should check with her school's financial aid office about any state residency requirements. The specific dependency criteria are: - 24 years old or older - Married - Graduate/professional student - Veteran/active duty military - Has dependents that receive more than half their support from her - Orphaned, ward of court, in foster care after age 13 - Emancipated minor - In legal guardianship - Homeless or at risk of homelessness - Dependency override approved by financial aid administrator

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Lourdes Fox

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Thank you for laying this out so clearly. So there's no way around it - I'll need to provide my info. My daughter will be disappointed since she was hoping to qualify for more aid by being considered independent. Is there any special form we need to fill out to explain her situation, or do we just proceed with the regular FAFSA process?

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my daughter had this same problem and her financial aid offer was WAY lower because they counted my income even though I dont give her any money! we tried to get a dependency override but the school said no

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Monique Byrd

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Did you try appealing the decision? Sometimes if you can document unusual circumstances they'll reconsider. Might be worth a shot if your daughter's situation is similar.

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I work in financial aid, and unfortunately this is one of the most common and frustrating situations students face. The federal definition of independence is very strict - Congress sets these rules, not the schools. Your daughter can request a dependency override, but they're granted only in extreme circumstances (abuse, abandonment, incarceration of parents, etc.). Simply not living with or receiving financial support from parents doesn't qualify. As for your move, your state of residence doesn't affect the federal FAFSA calculation, but if your daughter is applying for NY state aid, your move could potentially impact her eligibility for state programs. She should check with her school's financial aid office. The 2025-2026 FAFSA requires contributor information from parents if the student is dependent. With the new FAFSA Simplification, you'll provide access to your tax information through the IRS Data Retrieval Tool or by manually entering information from your tax return.

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Lourdes Fox

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This is really helpful but disappointing. It seems unfair that self-supporting students still have their aid reduced because of parental income they don't have access to. Is there ANYTHING we can do to help her get more aid since I don't actually support her financially?

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If you don't financially support your daughter, there is one option: she can include a letter with her FAFSA submission explaining her situation. While this won't change her dependency status, it may help if the school does a "professional judgment" review. She should write a detailed letter explaining: 1. How long she's been self-supporting 2. Documentation of her finances (rent payments, bills, etc.) 3. A clear statement that you don't provide financial support This won't affect the SAI calculation, but some schools have institutional funds they can award at their discretion after reviewing special circumstances.

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Lourdes Fox

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Thank you - we'll definitely try this approach. Is this something she should send directly to the financial aid office at her school, or does it get submitted with the FAFSA somehow?

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Monique Byrd

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Lourdes Fox

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Thanks for this tip! I've been trying to call them for days with no luck. I'll check this out - might be worth it to get clear answers directly from FSA about our specific situation.

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Zane Gray

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wait i thought if ur kid is over 18 they r automatically independent???

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Bruno Simmons

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No, that's a common misconception. For FAFSA purposes, students are considered dependent until age 24 unless they meet specific criteria (marriage, military service, etc.). Being 18, living separately, or being financially self-sufficient don't automatically make a student independent for financial aid.

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One additional point: With the FAFSA Simplification Act changes, there is now a clearer process for dependency overrides. Your daughter should schedule an appointment with her school's financial aid office to discuss her specific situation. While living separately and being self-supporting typically isn't enough for an override, each school has some discretion in evaluating unusual circumstances. Also, if you have limited contact with your daughter, make sure you're listed as a contributor on her FAFSA and create your own FSA ID so you can provide your information. The system now requires contributors (typically parents) to provide their own information directly rather than the student entering it. If you're unable to reach the financial aid office or Federal Student Aid, consider requesting a virtual appointment or sending a detailed email outlining your questions.

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Lourdes Fox

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Thanks for the updated info. I'll make sure to get my FSA ID set up. I haven't had much experience with the financial aid process, so this is all new to me. We'll try the financial aid office directly and see if they can help with her situation.

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Ruby Garcia

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I'm going through something similar with my 20-year-old son. What really helped us was getting organized before starting the FAFSA process. Make sure you have your tax returns ready and create your FSA ID ahead of time like others mentioned. One thing I learned is that even though it feels unfair that your income counts when you're not supporting her, the schools do sometimes have additional aid available through their own programs. After we submitted the FAFSA, my son's school offered him a work-study position and some institutional grants that weren't based on the federal aid formula. Also, document everything about her financial independence (lease agreements, utility bills, bank statements showing she pays her own expenses) - even if it doesn't change the FAFSA dependency status, it can be helpful for appeals or institutional aid decisions later.

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This is such great advice! I hadn't thought about documenting all her financial independence proof - we definitely have lease agreements and utility bills in her name. It's reassuring to hear that schools sometimes have their own aid programs that might help even when the federal formula doesn't work in our favor. I'll make sure she asks about work-study and institutional grants when she meets with the financial aid office. Thanks for sharing your experience - it gives me hope that there might be some additional options even though the FAFSA dependency rules are so rigid.

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Leo McDonald

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I'm in a very similar situation with my 22-year-old daughter! She's been completely financially independent for over a year, has her own apartment, pays all her bills, and I don't claim her on my taxes. But we still had to include my information on her FAFSA. What really helped us was being proactive about it - we gathered all the documentation showing her independence (rent receipts, utility bills, bank statements) even though it didn't change her dependency status for federal aid. Her school's financial aid office was actually really understanding when we explained the situation and they were able to offer some additional institutional aid that wasn't tied to the federal formula. Don't lose hope - while the FAFSA rules are frustrating, many schools have their own programs to help students in these situations!

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Quinn Herbert

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This is exactly what I needed to hear! It's so frustrating that the federal rules don't reflect real-world situations, but knowing that schools have their own aid programs gives me hope. I'm definitely going to help my daughter gather all that documentation you mentioned - rent receipts, utility bills, bank statements - and have her present it to the financial aid office. It sounds like being proactive and explaining the situation clearly can make a real difference even when the FAFSA dependency status can't be changed. Thanks for sharing your success story - it really helps to know we're not alone in this situation and that there are potential solutions beyond just the federal aid formula.

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I'm dealing with this exact situation right now! My daughter is 21 and has been completely independent for almost 3 years - she has her own lease, pays all utilities, works full-time, and I haven't claimed her as a dependent on my taxes since she moved out. But we still had to include all my financial information on her FAFSA because she doesn't meet any of those specific independence criteria. What I learned through this process is that you should definitely still fill out the FAFSA with your information, even though it feels wrong. Your daughter might qualify for federal loans regardless of your income, and many schools have their own aid programs that can help bridge the gap when the federal formula doesn't reflect your actual family situation. Also, regarding your move to Florida - make sure to check if your daughter is applying for any New York state grants or scholarships that might be affected by your residency change. Some state aid programs have specific requirements about parent residency that could impact her eligibility. The whole system really needs reform, but don't let the frustration stop you from completing the process. There are often more aid opportunities available once you get through the initial FAFSA hurdle!

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Thank you so much for sharing your experience! It's reassuring to know that other families are navigating this same frustrating situation successfully. I really appreciate the tip about checking New York state aid programs - I hadn't even thought about how my move to Florida might affect any state-specific aid she might be eligible for. We'll definitely look into that before I officially change my residency. It's encouraging to hear that there are often additional aid opportunities beyond the initial FAFSA, even when the federal formula doesn't work in our favor. The system definitely needs reform, but your advice helps me feel more optimistic about moving forward with the process despite the obstacles.

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Zainab Ahmed

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I'm a financial aid counselor and I see this situation constantly - it's one of the most frustrating aspects of the current FAFSA system for families. Your daughter's age and financial independence unfortunately don't change her dependency status for federal aid purposes. However, here are some actionable steps that can help maximize her aid opportunities: 1. **Complete the FAFSA anyway** - Even with your income included, she may still qualify for federal loans and some need-based aid. 2. **Appeal for institutional aid** - Many colleges have emergency funds or special circumstance reviews for students who are truly self-supporting. Have your daughter write a detailed letter to the financial aid office explaining her situation and include documentation (lease, utility bills, employment records). 3. **Look into your state's timeline** - Since you're moving to Florida, research whether this affects any NY state aid she might be eligible for. Some programs have specific deadlines or residency requirements. 4. **Consider community college options** - If the aid doesn't work out at a 4-year institution, starting at a community college while establishing true independence (until age 24) might be more financially feasible. The system is definitely flawed, but don't give up - there are often more options available than the initial FAFSA results suggest.

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This is incredibly helpful advice from someone who works in the field! I really appreciate you taking the time to lay out these specific action steps. The idea of appealing for institutional aid with documentation makes so much sense - we have all those records showing her independence, so it's good to know they could actually be useful even if they don't change the federal dependency status. I'm definitely going to have her write that detailed letter to the financial aid office. And thank you for the heads up about checking the timeline for NY state aid before my move - I hadn't realized that could be a factor but it makes sense that state programs might have different residency requirements. It's reassuring to hear from a professional that there really are more options beyond just the initial FAFSA results, even when the system seems stacked against families like ours.

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I'm going through this exact same situation with my 20-year-old! She's been living independently for over a year, working full-time, and paying all her own expenses, but we still had to include my financial information on her FAFSA. It's incredibly frustrating when the federal rules don't match the reality of these kids being truly self-sufficient. What helped us was being very organized and proactive. We gathered every piece of documentation showing her financial independence - lease agreements, utility bills in her name, bank statements, employment records, everything. Even though it didn't change her dependency status, her school's financial aid office was really receptive when she presented all this information along with a detailed letter explaining her situation. The good news is that many schools do have institutional aid programs that can help bridge the gap when the federal formula doesn't reflect your actual family circumstances. Her school ended up offering additional grants and a work-study position that weren't tied to the FAFSA results. Don't let the frustrating dependency rules discourage you from completing the process - there are often more opportunities available once you get through that initial hurdle!

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Thank you for sharing your experience! It's so encouraging to hear from another parent who's been through this exact situation. The documentation approach you described sounds really smart - I'm definitely going to help my daughter gather all those records (lease, utilities, bank statements, employment records) even though they won't change the federal dependency status. It gives me hope to know that schools can be receptive to these situations when you present the information well. The fact that your daughter got additional grants and work-study that weren't tied to FAFSA results is exactly what I was hoping to hear - it shows there really are other avenues for aid beyond just the federal formula. I feel much more optimistic about moving forward with the process now, knowing that the initial FAFSA hurdle isn't the end of the road. Thanks for taking the time to share what worked for your family!

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Carmen Diaz

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I'm new to this whole FAFSA process and this thread has been incredibly eye-opening! My 20-year-old is in a similar situation - she's been supporting herself for about 8 months now, has her own apartment, and works part-time while going to school. I had no idea that being financially independent didn't automatically make her independent for FAFSA purposes. Reading through everyone's experiences here, it sounds like the key is to complete the FAFSA with parent information AND then work directly with the school's financial aid office to explain the situation. I'm definitely going to start gathering all the documentation people mentioned - lease agreement, utility bills, bank statements showing she pays her own expenses. One question I have is about timing - should we submit the FAFSA first and then contact the financial aid office, or reach out to them before submitting to get guidance on the best approach for our specific situation?

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LunarLegend

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Welcome to the FAFSA maze! I'm new to this too and this thread has been a lifesaver. From what I've learned reading through everyone's experiences, it sounds like you should submit the FAFSA first - schools need that baseline federal application before they can consider any special circumstances or institutional aid. Then follow up with the financial aid office with all your documentation and a detailed letter explaining your daughter's situation. Several people here mentioned that schools were really helpful once they had the complete picture, even though the federal dependency rules couldn't be changed. It's reassuring to know we're not alone in this frustrating situation!

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Daniel Rogers

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I'm also new to navigating FAFSA with an independent-living child, and this discussion has been so helpful! My 19-year-old has been completely self-supporting for about 6 months - she has her own lease, pays utilities, works full-time, and I don't provide any financial support. Like everyone else here, I was shocked to learn that none of that matters for federal aid purposes. What I'm taking away from all these experiences is that we need to play the long game - complete the FAFSA with parent info as required, but then immediately start building a case for institutional aid. I'm going to help my daughter create a comprehensive file with lease agreements, utility bills, employment records, bank statements showing independent expenses, and a detailed timeline of her self-sufficiency. It's frustrating that the federal system is so rigid, but I'm encouraged by how many people here found success working directly with their school's financial aid offices. Even if we can't change the dependency status, it sounds like there are real opportunities for additional aid when schools understand the actual family situation. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - it's made this overwhelming process feel much more manageable!

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Zoe Gonzalez

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You've really captured the essence of what everyone's been sharing here! I'm also new to this process and feeling overwhelmed, but reading through all these experiences has given me a much clearer roadmap. The "long game" approach you mentioned makes perfect sense - work within the federal system as required, but then advocate directly with the schools for a more realistic assessment of our situations. I love your idea of creating a comprehensive file with all the documentation. It sounds like being organized and thorough when presenting the case to financial aid offices can make a real difference, even when the federal rules seem inflexible. This whole thread has transformed my understanding from "this is impossible" to "this is challenging but doable with the right strategy.

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