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Giovanni Rossi

FAFSA for grad school - daughter has no tax forms but parents can't be included?

I'm trying to help my daughter navigate her first independent FAFSA for grad school and I'm seriously confused. She's 23, graduating with her bachelor's in December, and applying to grad programs for Fall 2025. We've claimed her as a dependent on our taxes throughout her undergrad years, and she's had only part-time campus jobs that didn't require filing taxes. Now that she's applying for grad school, I understand parent information isn't considered - but what does she submit when she has no tax returns of her own? Anyone been through this recently? The FAFSA website is super unclear about this specific situation.

For graduate school FAFSA, your daughter is automatically considered an independent student regardless of whether you claimed her on your taxes. If she hasn't filed taxes because her income was below the filing threshold, she'll just indicate this on the FAFSA. The system will ask if she filed taxes and she can select "No" and provide her actual income information from her W-2s or payment records. The FAFSA system is designed to handle this common situation.

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Thank you! So even though we claimed her, she just reports her own income? What if she doesn't have W-2s for all her campus jobs (some were under-the-table tutoring)? Will they verify this information somehow since she doesn't have tax returns on file?

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Dylan Evans

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my son went thru this last yr. they WILL ask 4 income even w/no taxes filed. he had to put all his campus job money + summer work. just have her gather all W2s or pay stubs. no parent info needed!!

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Sofia Gomez

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Do they verify the income amount if no tax return was filed? My niece is in a similar situation and now I'm worried she'll get selected for verification because she only has partial records from her side hustles...

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StormChaser

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Graduate school FAFSA processing is different from undergraduate. For 2025-2026, graduate students are considered independent regardless of tax dependency status. Here's what your daughter needs to know: 1. She'll need to report all income earned in 2023 (the base tax year for 2025-2026 FAFSA) 2. If she earned below the filing threshold (~$12,950 for single filers), she can indicate she didn't file 3. She should still report all income from W-2s and any untaxed income 4. For cash jobs without documentation, she should estimate as accurately as possible 5. Graduate FAFSA primarily determines eligibility for Federal Direct Unsubsidized Loans and Grad PLUS loans Important: If selected for verification, she would need to request a Verification of Non-filing Letter from the IRS to confirm she wasn't required to file taxes.

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This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I didn't realize 2023 would be the base year. She had more substantial income that year from a summer internship. Should she be gathering those records now to prepare for the FAFSA opening in December?

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Dmitry Petrov

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I'm going through the exact same thing with my son right now! The most frustrating part was when he tried logging into studentaid.gov and kept getting errors because he's never filed a FAFSA on his own before. We had to call the help line like 4 times and kept getting disconnected. Such a headache!

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Miguel Castro

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Wait I'm confused about the FAFSA stuff. I thought graduate students still needed parents info? When I was applying for my masters they asked for my parents tax stuff and I was 24!!

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You might be confusing the CSS Profile with FAFSA. The CSS Profile (used by private universities for institutional aid) sometimes requires parent information for graduate students, but the FAFSA treats all graduate students as independent regardless of age. FAFSA hasn't required parent information for grad students for many years now.

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Dylan Evans

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hey just want 2 add my daughter got VERIFIED after saying she didnt file taxes. HUGE PAIN!!! had to get letter from IRS saying she didnt file + submit all her W2s. took like 3 extra weeks so tell ur daughter to be ready for that!!!!

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Oh no, that's exactly what I'm worried about! Did your daughter have to visit an IRS office in person to get that letter or could she request it online?

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StormChaser

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To address some questions raised here: 1. For the original poster: Yes, your daughter should gather ALL income documentation from 2023 now (W-2s, 1099s, payment records). The FAFSA for 2025-2026 uses 2023 as the base year, not 2024. 2. Regarding verification for non-filers: Your daughter can request a Verification of Non-filing Letter from the IRS using Form 4506-T or through the IRS website. She doesn't need to visit in person. 3. For untaxed/cash income: She should make reasonable estimates and keep personal records in case of verification. 4. About graduate aid: Remember that graduate students are mostly eligible for unsubsidized loans (up to $20,500/year) and Grad PLUS loans (up to the cost of attendance). Grants are limited and usually school-specific. The key thing is to complete the FAFSA as soon as it opens in December - graduate school aid can be first-come, first-served at many institutions.

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Thank you for all this information! One last question - since she'll be finishing her bachelor's in December 2024 and starting grad school in Fall 2025, does she need to file a separate FAFSA for her final undergrad semester, or just the one for grad school that would begin Fall 2025?

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For your specific timeline question: Your daughter needs two separate FAFSAs. 1. For her final undergrad semester (Fall 2024): She should have already completed the 2024-2025 FAFSA (which used 2022 tax info). This would have included your parental information since she was still an undergraduate dependent. 2. For her graduate program (starting Fall 2025): She'll complete the 2025-2026 FAFSA when it opens in December 2024, using 2023 tax year information. This one will be completed as an independent student regardless of her tax dependency status. If she hasn't completed the 2024-2025 FAFSA for her final undergrad semester, she should do that immediately.

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Perfect - we did already complete her 2024-2025 FAFSA for her final semester. I'll make sure she's ready to complete the new application for grad school as soon as it opens. Thank you all for the extremely helpful information!

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Dmitry Petrov

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Just want to add something nobody mentioned - tell your daughter to check with each grad school's financial aid office directly! My son's program had separate fellowship applications with different deadlines than the FAFSA. We almost missed out on $12k in department funding because we only focused on the FAFSA part.

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Miguel Castro

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THIS!!!! I got a $7500 TA position that wasnt thru FAFSA at all! Its basically free money and they never even mentioned it in any of the regular financial aid stuff. I only found out bc I emailed the department directly!

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Hannah Flores

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Adding to the discussion - I work in a university financial aid office and see this situation constantly. A few practical tips for your daughter: 1) Create her FSA ID early if she hasn't already, 2) Keep detailed records of ALL 2023 income (even small amounts matter), 3) If she's selected for verification as a non-filer, the IRS Verification of Non-filing Letter can be requested online at irs.gov - no need to visit in person, 4) Many grad programs also have priority deadlines for institutional aid that are EARLIER than general admission deadlines, so check those dates carefully. The good news is that graduate FAFSA is much simpler than undergrad since no parent info is needed!

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As someone who just went through this exact process last year, I can confirm everything others have said is accurate! One thing I'd add is to make sure your daughter saves ALL her 2023 income documentation in a dedicated folder - even if amounts seem small. I had to scramble to find old pay stubs when I got selected for verification. Also, if she has any scholarships or grants from her undergrad that she received in 2023, those need to be reported too as untaxed income. The FAFSA completion time for grad students is usually much faster than undergrad since there's no parent info needed - took me maybe 30 minutes once I had everything organized. Good luck to your daughter with her grad school applications!

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Axel Bourke

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Thanks for sharing your experience! That's a great point about organizing all the 2023 documents in advance. I'm definitely going to have my daughter create a dedicated folder for everything. Quick question - when you mention scholarships/grants from undergrad needing to be reported as untaxed income, does that include merit scholarships that went directly to the school to pay tuition, or just the portions that were refunded to her as cash?

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Yara Haddad

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Great question! For FAFSA purposes, you typically only report the portions of scholarships/grants that exceeded qualified education expenses (tuition, fees, required books/supplies). So if a merit scholarship went directly to pay tuition, that usually doesn't count as taxable income that needs to be reported. However, any scholarship money that was refunded to her as cash (like for living expenses) or that covered non-qualified expenses would need to be reported as untaxed income. The school should have provided her with documentation showing how the scholarship funds were applied. When in doubt, it's always better to include it and let the financial aid office sort it out rather than accidentally omit required information!

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Keisha Brown

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Just want to emphasize something that might not be obvious - even though your daughter will be filing as an independent student for grad school, make sure she understands that her 2023 income (the base year) might affect her Expected Family Contribution differently than when she was a dependent. As an independent student with low income, she'll likely qualify for a higher loan amount, but don't be surprised if the EFC calculation looks different than what you're used to seeing on her undergrad FAFSAs. Also, I'd recommend she complete her FAFSA as early as possible in December since some grad programs have limited funding pools that get distributed on a first-come basis, even if their "priority deadline" isn't until later in the spring.

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This is really helpful advice about the EFC calculation being different for independent students! I hadn't thought about how her low income as an independent might actually work in her favor compared to when our family income was factored in. The early filing tip is especially valuable - I'll make sure she marks December on her calendar to submit right when it opens. It sounds like graduate school financial aid is much more competitive and time-sensitive than undergrad aid was.

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the Data Retrieval Tool (DRT) situation for graduate students. Since your daughter didn't file taxes, she won't be able to use the IRS DRT to automatically import tax information into her FAFSA. This actually makes the process a bit simpler in some ways since she'll just manually enter her income information from her W-2s and other records. However, make sure she's extra careful with accuracy since manual entry is more prone to errors that could trigger verification. Also, if any of her graduate programs require the CSS Profile in addition to FAFSA, that's a whole separate process with different requirements - some schools do ask for parent information on the CSS Profile even for graduate students, so definitely check each school's specific requirements beyond just the federal FAFSA.

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Ezra Beard

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Thanks for bringing up the CSS Profile - that's such an important distinction! I had no idea some grad schools might still want parent info through CSS even when FAFSA doesn't require it. We'll definitely need to check each school's requirements individually. The point about manual entry being more error-prone is also really valuable - I'll make sure my daughter double and triple checks all her income figures before submitting. It's reassuring to know that not being able to use the DRT actually simplifies things rather than complicating them!

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Sean O'Connor

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I went through this exact situation with my daughter two years ago! One thing I'd add that really helped us was creating a simple spreadsheet to track all her 2023 income sources before starting the FAFSA. We had columns for: employer name, dates worked, gross income, and whether she received a W-2 or not. This made the actual FAFSA completion much smoother and gave us confidence we weren't missing anything. Also, don't stress too much about small cash payments that might not have perfect documentation - the financial aid offices understand that students often have informal work arrangements. Just estimate as best you can and keep whatever records she does have. The most important thing is submitting the FAFSA early when it opens in December. Good luck to your daughter with her graduate applications!

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Zainab Ismail

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That spreadsheet idea is brilliant! I'm definitely going to have my daughter create something similar to organize all her 2023 income information. It'll be so much easier to reference during the FAFSA process rather than scrambling through old paperwork. I really appreciate everyone's advice in this thread - it's made what seemed like a confusing process much clearer. The early December filing reminder keeps coming up from multiple people, so that's clearly crucial. Thanks for sharing your experience and the reassurance about informal work arrangements!

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Liam McGuire

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As someone who just completed my first independent FAFSA for grad school this year, I can relate to the confusion! The process was much more straightforward than I expected once I understood the key points everyone has mentioned here. One thing that really helped me was setting up an account on the IRS website early so I could access my transcripts if needed during verification. Even though I didn't file taxes, having that account ready made me feel more prepared. Also, I'd recommend your daughter start gathering her 2023 income documentation now rather than waiting until December - it took me longer than expected to track down some of my old pay stubs from campus jobs. The independent student status for grad school is actually a relief compared to coordinating with parents for undergrad FAFSA! Best of luck to your daughter with her applications.

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This is such valuable firsthand advice! I hadn't thought about setting up the IRS account in advance - that's a really smart preparation step even for non-filers. You're absolutely right about starting to gather 2023 documents now rather than waiting. My daughter has already mentioned that some of her old campus job records might be tricky to track down, so giving ourselves extra time is definitely wise. It's encouraging to hear from someone who just went through this process successfully. Thanks for sharing your experience and confirming that the independent status actually makes things simpler!

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As a newcomer to this community, I just want to say how incredibly helpful this entire thread has been! I'm in a very similar situation with my own daughter who's applying to grad school, and I was completely overwhelmed by the FAFSA process until reading all these detailed responses. The step-by-step guidance about 2023 being the base year, the verification process for non-filers, and especially the reminders about early December filing and checking individual school requirements beyond just FAFSA - this is exactly the kind of practical advice you can't easily find elsewhere. I'm definitely going to bookmark this thread and follow the spreadsheet suggestion for organizing income documentation. Thank you all for creating such a supportive and informative discussion!

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Welcome to the community! I'm also new here and finding myself in a similar boat with graduate school FAFSA questions. This thread has been absolutely invaluable - I had no idea about so many of these details like the verification letter process or the importance of checking CSS Profile requirements separately. The community here seems incredibly knowledgeable and willing to share real experiences. I'm definitely taking notes on all the preparation steps mentioned, especially starting the document gathering process early. It's reassuring to know we're not alone in navigating this transition from dependent to independent student status!

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Lena Schultz

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Welcome to everyone who's new to this discussion! As someone who's been helping families navigate FAFSA for years, I wanted to add a few practical tips that might be useful. First, make sure your daughter creates her FSA ID using her own email address (not a family shared one) since she'll need independent access for grad school. Second, if she had any work-study positions during undergrad, those earnings should be reported as regular income on her graduate FAFSA - work-study isn't treated differently for grad students like it is for undergrads. Finally, consider having her reach out to the financial aid offices at her target grad schools in January after submitting her FAFSA - they can often provide school-specific guidance about their aid timelines and any additional forms needed. The graduate school financial aid landscape is quite different from undergrad, but with proper preparation it's definitely manageable!

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This is exactly the kind of detailed guidance I was hoping to find! The tip about creating her own FSA ID with a separate email is something I hadn't considered but makes perfect sense for the transition to independent status. I'm particularly grateful for the clarification about work-study earnings being treated as regular income for grad students - that's a nuance I definitely would have missed. The suggestion to proactively contact financial aid offices in January is also really smart; I imagine they're much more accessible then compared to the rush periods. Thank you for emphasizing how different the graduate aid landscape is - it's helping me adjust my expectations and preparation approach accordingly!

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