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Won an ESD appeal for misconduct termination with minimal documentation?

I'm freaking out right now and could use some success stories. My employer fired me claiming 'misconduct due to carelessness' after I made a few inventory errors at the retail store I managed. They only have ONE written warning from 3 months ago documenting a previous error. My unemployment claim was denied and now I have to appeal to the OAH. The denial letter says I demonstrated 'willful disregard' for my employer's interests, but these were honest mistakes! Has anyone successfully appealed a similar misconduct disqualification with minimal documentation against them? What evidence helped your case? The hearing is scheduled for next week and I'm terrified I'll lose 4 months of benefits I desperately need.

Malik Johnson

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I won my appeal in a similar situation! My employer claimed misconduct for 'carelessness' in handling client accounts, but only had one documented warning. During my hearing, I emphasized several key points: 1. A single documented warning doesn't establish a pattern of negligence 2. I explained that I received training but the procedures were complex and errors occasionally happened (honest mistakes vs. willful disregard) 3. I brought performance reviews showing otherwise satisfactory work 4. I demonstrated I tried to improve after the warning The judge ruled that occasional errors, especially with minimal documentation of prior issues, don't constitute misconduct under ESD rules. Misconduct requires proof of willful or wanton disregard of the employer's interest - honest mistakes don't meet that threshold. Prepare to clearly explain the difference between carelessness (which may be ordinary negligence) and actual misconduct. Good luck!

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QuantumLeap

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Thank you so much for this detailed response! It gives me hope. Did you have a lawyer or did you represent yourself? I had good performance reviews until this last quarter when we got a new district manager who seemed to have it out for me. I'll definitely emphasize these were complex inventory procedures where mistakes occasionally happen.

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Isabella Santos

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my friend got denied for someting similar but he didnt appeal it. wish he did now. one write up isnt enough to prove misconduct i think. good luck!

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Ravi Sharma

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Actually, I disagree. The number of write-ups isn't what matters - it's whether the actions show deliberate disregard for the employer's interests. I've seen cases where ONE serious incident was enough to deny benefits. Not trying to be negative, just realistic about how ESD views these cases.

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QuantumLeap

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This is exactly what I'm worried about - that they'll say even one documented warning is enough if the mistake was bad enough. Though in my case, it was just a $230 inventory discrepancy that happened when we were severely understaffed.

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Freya Larsen

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I WON my appeal after being fired for "negligence" and it sounds very similar to your situation. My former employer tried to say I was being careless with safety protocols but they only had ONE documented incident. Here's what worked for me: - I brought witnesses (coworkers) who testified the expectations weren't clear - I showed the judge that what they called "misconduct" was actually common practice - I proved I never received proper training on the specific procedures - I demonstrated that they were looking for reasons to fire me because I had recently requested FMLA The whole ESD system is STACKED against workers!!! Don't let them intimidate you. The burden of proof is on THEM to prove misconduct, not on you to disprove it. They're hoping you'll just give up!

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Omar Hassan

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Were your witnesses at the actual hearing or did they just provide written statements? I'm trying to figure out the logistics for my upcoming appeal hearing.

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Freya Larsen

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My two coworkers testified by phone during the hearing. The judge called them at their scheduled times. Make sure your witnesses are PREPARED for the specific questions and have concrete examples ready. Don't let them ramble or they'll undermine your case!!!

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Chloe Taylor

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i lost my appeal for something like this last year... the judge sided with my employer even tho they only had one writeup because they had emails showing id been told about the problem before. check if they might have other evidence besides just the writeup. also i couldnt get thru to esd before my hearing to understand what evidence the employer submitted which really hurt my case

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ShadowHunter

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This is an important point. You need to request all evidence your employer submitted to ESD before your hearing. If you can't get through to ESD on the phone (which is common), I'd recommend trying Claimyr (claimyr.com). They got me connected to an ESD agent in about 20 minutes when I was preparing for my appeal. There's a short video explaining how it works: https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ?si=26TzE_zGms-DODN3 Knowing what evidence they have against you is critical for preparing your defense. In my case, I discovered my employer had submitted surveillance footage they claimed showed misconduct, but in the hearing I was able to explain the context that made it clear it wasn't misconduct at all.

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QuantumLeap

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Thank you both for this advice. I haven't been able to see what evidence they submitted yet - I'll check out Claimyr since I've been trying to reach ESD for days without success. I need to know if they have emails or anything beyond that one write-up.

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Ravi Sharma

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I work in HR and can tell you that under Washington unemployment law, misconduct is defined as a deliberate violation or disregard of standards of behavior which an employer has the right to expect. Simple negligence or good faith errors in judgment don't qualify as misconduct. For carelessness to rise to the level of misconduct, your employer would typically need to show: 1. You were clearly aware of the expectations 2. You repeatedly failed to meet those expectations despite warnings 3. Your actions showed willful disregard rather than honest mistakes One write-up alone generally isn't sufficient unless the incident was extremely serious or deliberate. Focus your appeal on demonstrating these were good faith errors despite your best efforts. The judge will be looking for evidence of your intent, not just the outcome of your actions.

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QuantumLeap

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This is incredibly helpful information. My errors were definitely not deliberate - they happened during a period when our store was understaffed and I was doing the job of three people. I'll make sure to emphasize this context and my otherwise good performance record.

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Isabella Santos

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wat happens if u lose the appeal? can u still get benefits eventually or is it just done forever?

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Malik Johnson

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If you lose at the OAH level, you can appeal to the Commissioner's Review Office within 30 days. If you lose there, you can take it to Superior Court, though that's much more complex. Even with a misconduct denial, you're only disqualified for 10 weeks and until you earn 10 times your weekly benefit amount at a new job. After that, you can requalify if you're still unemployed and otherwise eligible.

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Omar Hassan

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My hearing is next month for something similar. Anyone know if these hearings are still being done by phone because of COVID or are they in-person now? The notice wasn't clear.

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Freya Larsen

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They're still doing most hearings by phone. You'll get a call at the scheduled time. Make sure to have ALL your evidence submitted beforehand through their online portal. Have your documents in front of you during the call. And BE ON TIME - they won't reschedule if you miss it without a really good reason!

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QuantumLeap

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Update: I finally managed to get through to someone at ESD! Turns out my employer also submitted some email exchanges showing they had verbally warned me about inventory issues before the written warning. This makes my case harder, but at least now I can prepare better for the hearing. Thanks for all the advice everyone.

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Malik Johnson

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This is really good that you found this out before the hearing. Now you can prepare to address these emails specifically. Focus on whether these were actually clear warnings or just normal work communications. Also consider if there were extenuating circumstances like staff shortages, system issues, or inadequate training that contributed to the problems. Don't forget to emphasize any positive feedback or performance reviews you received during the same time period.

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