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PA UC misconduct appeal victory after termination - what worked for me?

I'm at my wits end trying to win an appeal for misconduct with PA unemployment. My former employer fired me after I was late 3 times in January (company policy was 5 strikes in 12 months) but they told UC I had "excessive tardiness" and "violated company policy." My initial claim was denied for willful misconduct and I filed an appeal right away. My hearing is scheduled for next week and I'm freaking out about my chances. Has anyone here actually WON an appeal for misconduct? What evidence or arguments helped you win? I really need this money since I've been job hunting for 6 weeks with no luck. Any advice appreciated!!

I won my misconduct appeal last year! Here's what helped me succeed: 1. Documentation is EVERYTHING. Bring your employee handbook showing the exact attendance policy. 2. If you have any evidence that your latenesses were for good cause (car trouble, medical issues, childcare emergencies), bring documentation. 3. The key legal point: PA UC defines misconduct as a deliberate violation of employer rules. If your tardiness was due to circumstances beyond your control, it's NOT willful misconduct. 4. Be respectful during the hearing - the referee notices this. 5. If other employees had similar attendance issues but weren't fired, mention this (shows inconsistent enforcement). Stay calm during questioning. My employer tried to add new issues during my hearing that weren't in the original determination, but the referee only focused on what was in the written record. Good luck!

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Cole Roush

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Thank you so much!!! Im going to find my employee handbook tonight. Do you think it matters that I was only late by like 5-10 minutes each time? And 2 times it was because of the bus running late. Would text messages to my supervisor about the bus delays help as evidence?

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Arnav Bengali

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lol good luck. i tried to fight misconduct and got denied twice. the system is rigged against workers. my boss straight up lied in the hearing and the ref believed every word.

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Cole Roush

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Oh no, thats scary to hear. Did you have any documentation or witnesses to back up your side? I'm worried my former manager is going to exaggerate everything.

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Sayid Hassan

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Public transportation issues are definitely considered good cause! In PA unemployment law, misconduct requires DELIBERATE violation of rules. If you were late due to bus delays that's not deliberate. For your hearing: 1. Bring screenshots of those texts to your supervisor 2. Print out any bus schedules/service alerts if available 3. Clarify that company policy allowed 5 tardies but you only had 3 4. Stay focused on the facts - don't get emotional Also, make sure you continue filing your weekly claims during the appeal process! Many people forget this and lose benefits even if they win the appeal.

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Cole Roush

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Thanks for the advice! I didn't think about printing the bus schedules - that's really smart. And yes, I've been filing my weekly claims faithfully even with no payments coming in yet.

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Rachel Tao

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I had a similar situation in 2023 and WON my appeal!! My company fired me for "excessive absences" but I had documentation showing most were approved FMLA days. The key was PROVING my side - I had emails, doctor's notes, and witness testimony. Make sure you emphasize to the referee that 3 tardies is LESS than the 5 allowed by company policy! That's a crucial point. If they didn't follow their own policy, that works in your favor. One thing that helped me was writing down all my points beforehand so I didn't forget anything important during the hearing. I was super nervous too but it ended up being less intimidating than I expected.

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Cole Roush

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That's a good idea about writing everything down - I tend to get flustered when I'm nervous. Did your employer attend the hearing? I'm worried about facing my old boss.

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Derek Olson

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Cole Roush

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Thanks for the tip! I've been trying to get through to UC for days with no luck. I'll check out the video and maybe try this service. I really need to talk to someone before my hearing date.

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Danielle Mays

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dude ur overthinking this. just tell them u were trying ur best and buses run late sometimes. not ur fault. they cant expect perfect attendence thats crazy

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Sayid Hassan

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While having a relaxed attitude can help with stress, I have to caution that UC appeals require proper preparation. The burden of proof in misconduct cases falls on the employer, but you still need to present evidence that counters their claims. Documentation always trumps just saying "it wasn't my fault."

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One more important tip: During your hearing, make sure to clarify the definition of "willful misconduct" under PA law. It requires DELIBERATE disregard of the employer's interests or negligence that manifests "culpability, wrongful intent, or evil design." Being late because of public transportation issues doesn't meet this standard. Also, if the employer claims you violated their policy but they didn't follow their own policy (5 strikes vs. the 3 you had), that significantly weakens their case. Just be truthful, stick to the facts, and let the referee see that you're a responsible employee who had some legitimate transportation issues - not someone deliberately breaking rules.

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Cole Roush

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That's really helpful language to know about "willful misconduct" - I'll definitely mention that! I'm gathering all my documentation now and feeling more prepared. I just hope the referee is fair.

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Roger Romero

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I work in HR (not giving legal advice) but I've seen many UC cases. Here's what often gets overlooked: If your employer did not enforce their attendance policy consistently, that MATTERS. Were other people allowed to have 3+ tardies without being fired? That's important. Also, did they ever formally warn you about your attendance before termination? If they didn't follow a progressive discipline process that they use with others, mention that. Lastly, UC referees are generally fair in my experience. They follow the law, not just what employers want. I've seen plenty of employees win these appeals when the facts support their case.

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Cole Roush

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Actually now that you mention it, I know at least two coworkers who had more tardies than me and just got verbal warnings. Should I bring that up? And yes, I never received any formal written warnings about my attendance before they fired me.

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Yes, absolutely mention both of those points! Inconsistent enforcement of rules and lack of progressive discipline are both factors that can help your case. PA unemployment referees often consider these elements when determining if there was actual misconduct. Document the names of coworkers with similar or worse attendance who weren't fired if you can. The more specific details you can provide, the stronger your case will be. Best of luck with your hearing!

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Cole Roush

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Update: I WON MY APPEAL!!! The referee agreed that 3 tardies when policy allowed 5 wasn't willful misconduct, especially since two were due to documented bus delays. They're releasing all my back benefits now. Thanks everyone for your help and encouragement! This group was a lifesaver!

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