Won TWC appeal after employer contested my already-approved benefits - seeking similar stories
I'm in a weird situation with my TWC benefits and could use some reassurance. I was laid off in February from my sales job, applied for unemployment, got approved and started receiving weekly payments about $485 for almost 2 months. Then out of nowhere, I got a notice that my former employer filed an appeal claiming I was fired for misconduct (completely untrue - we had documented performance targets I missed after they changed the territory boundaries). TWC sent me a letter saying I had to attend a telephone hearing next week. I'm freaking out because I've already spent this money on rent and bills thinking everything was fine! Has anyone gone through an employer appeal AFTER already getting benefits and actually won their case? What kind of evidence helped you? Did you have to pay back benefits if you lost? My determination letter says I was eligible because of "reduction in hours due to lack of work" but my employer is now saying different.
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Kristian Bishop
Yes, I won an appeal in a similar situation last year. My employer tried to claim I was fired for excessive absences, but I was able to prove I had approved FMLA leave for those dates. Most important advice: PREPARE THOROUGHLY. Have all your documentation ready - emails about the lay off, performance reviews, anything that supports your version. Write down a timeline of events. Practice explaining your side concisely. During the hearing, stay calm and only answer what's asked - don't ramble or get emotional. The hearing officer just wants facts. If you win, you keep your benefits. If you lose, yes, you'll probably have to pay back what you received, though you can usually set up a payment plan. But focus on winning! With documentation about those territory changes and performance targets, you have a strong case.
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Eva St. Cyr
•Thank you SO MUCH for this advice! I have emails showing when they changed my territory and how my sales numbers were fine before that. Would text messages with my manager count as evidence? I'm worried because it's just my word against theirs about why I was really let go.
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Kaitlyn Otto
omg this EXACT same thing happened to me!!! my boss said layoff then changed his story to misconduct on the appeal!! so stressful im still waiting on my hearing date tho
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Axel Far
•Same here! Seems like some companies do this hoping people won't fight back. My hearing is tomorrow and I'm nervous as heck.
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Jasmine Hernandez
This happens a lot more than you'd think. Companies initially don't protest the claim, then their unemployment insurance rates increase and suddenly they find "reasons" you shouldn't get benefits. Here's what helps: 1. Any written documentation about your termination being due to territory changes/performance after those changes 2. Text messages ARE admissible - screenshot everything 3. Names of witnesses who can verify your account 4. A written timeline of events to reference during the hearing 5. Your previous performance reviews if they were positive Be aware the hearing officer will ask specific questions - answer only what they ask, don't volunteer extra information. If you don't know something, say "I don't recall" rather than guessing. If you lose, you'll get an overpayment determination, but you can appeal that too or request a waiver if repayment would cause financial hardship.
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Eva St. Cyr
•Thank you for the detailed advice! Should I have my former teammates as witnesses? Two of them know about the territory changes. Also, do I need to submit my evidence before the hearing or just have it ready to discuss?
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Luis Johnson
Went through this last summer. My manager even ADMITTED during the hearing that they changed their story after they saw their unemployment insurance rates going up!!! The hearing officer wasn't impressed. I won because I had documentation showing I was meeting expectations before a policy change. One weird thing: I expected a formal courtroom type thing but it was just a conference call with me, employer, and the hearing officer asking questions. Much less intimidating than I thought. FYI if you lose and get an overpayment notice, you can apply for a waiver so you don't have to pay it all back at once. I've heard they're pretty reasonable if you show financial hardship.
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Eva St. Cyr
•That's reassuring! I think I've been imagining it way worse than it actually is. I've barely slept thinking about possibly owing TWC thousands of dollars I don't have anymore. Did you have a lawyer or just represented yourself?
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Kristian Bishop
For the hearing, you need to submit evidence beforehand - usually 24-48 hours prior. There should be instructions on your hearing notice about how to submit documents. And yes, former coworkers who can verify the territory changes would be excellent witnesses, especially if they've seen how it affected your performance metrics.
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Luis Johnson
I represented myself! No lawyer needed. Just organized my thoughts and evidence. Remember the hearing officer does these all day long - they're looking for clear facts, not emotional appeals. Stay professional even if your employer says things that aren't true.
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Axel Far
Anybody else having trouble getting through to TWC to ask questions before their hearing??? I've been calling for THREE DAYS and can't get a human!!! So frustating when something this important is happening!!!
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Ellie Kim
•I had the same issue before my appeal hearing last month. Kept getting busy signals and disconnections. I finally used Claimyr.com to get through - it basically keeps redialing for you until you get connected to an agent. Saved me hours of frustration. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/V-IMvH88P1U?si=kNxmh025COIlIzKh. I was able to get answers about the evidence submission process before my hearing, which definitely helped me win my case. Worth it just to get your questions answered when something this serious is happening.
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Fiona Sand
i lost my appeal ands now i owe $4300 back to twc 😠my employer had emails i never saw before about warnings they said they gave me. check if your company has anything like that they might surprise you with!!!!
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Eva St. Cyr
•Oh no, I'm so sorry that happened! Did you apply for a hardship waiver or payment plan? That's a lot of money to pay back all at once.
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Jasmine Hernandez
Another important tip for your hearing: You'll receive a packet with all evidence your employer submits. Review it carefully so you're not surprised. If they submit something at the last minute that you haven't seen, you can request additional time to review it. Also, don't be afraid to object if your employer makes claims without evidence or brings up issues not related to your separation. The hearing officer will only consider relevant, supported facts. Make sure you understand the exact issue in dispute. Since you were initially approved for lack of work/reduction in hours, and now they're claiming misconduct, the burden of proof is on THEM to show misconduct occurred. That works in your favor.
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Fiona Sand
yeah im on a payment plan now $120/month for like forever 😫 they do take your income into account when setting it up at least
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Eva St. Cyr
Update: Just had my hearing and I WON!!! The hearing officer agreed that missing sales targets after a territory change doesn't constitute misconduct. My former employer tried to bring up some attendance issues but had zero documentation, while I had screenshots of approved time off requests. Thank you all SO MUCH for the advice about preparation - it made all the difference. I organized all my evidence, practiced what I wanted to say, and stayed calm even when they made false claims. The hearing officer seemed to pick up pretty quick that they were changing their story from the original separation reason. Such a relief to not have to pay back over $3,800 in benefits I've already used to survive!
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Kristian Bishop
•That's fantastic news! I'm so happy for you. This is exactly why it's worth fighting these appeals - employers often try this tactic hoping people won't know how to defend themselves properly. Congratulations!
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Kaitlyn Otto
congrats!!!! gives me hope for my hearing next week!!!
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Paolo Moretti
Congratulations Eva! Your win gives me so much hope. I'm dealing with a similar situation where my employer initially said "layoff due to restructuring" but now claims I was terminated for "failure to meet expectations." It's so frustrating when they change their story after you've already been approved and receiving benefits. Your advice about staying organized and calm during the hearing is exactly what I needed to hear. I've been collecting emails and documentation about the restructuring they announced, plus my previous positive performance reviews. Did the hearing officer ask you specific questions about the timeline, or did they mostly let you and your employer present your sides? I'm scheduled for my hearing in two weeks and honestly terrified about potentially owing back $4,200 in benefits. But reading about your success makes me feel like I can actually win this if I prepare properly. Thank you for sharing your update - it really means a lot to those of us going through this stressful process!
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Amara Eze
•@Paolo Moretti Congratulations on collecting all that documentation - you re'already ahead of the game! The hearing officer asked both specific timeline questions and let us present our sides. They wanted exact dates of when the territory changes happened versus when my performance allegedly declined. Having those emails about restructuring will be huge for your case since it shows their initial reason was legitimate. The key thing that seemed to impress the hearing officer was that I could prove the sequence of events - territory change first, then performance issues, which clearly showed the performance problems were a result of circumstances beyond my control, not misconduct. Your situation sounds very similar with the restructuring timeline. You ve'got this! Just practice explaining the timeline clearly and concisely. The hearing officer really does want to get to the truth, and when employers change their story like this, it usually doesn t'look good for them. Stay calm and stick to the facts!
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Mia Roberts
I'm going through something very similar right now! My employer initially said "position eliminated due to budget cuts" when I was laid off in January, but now they're claiming I was fired for "poor performance" in their appeal. It's so stressful because like you, I've already been receiving benefits for about 6 weeks and have used that money for essential expenses. Reading all these success stories gives me hope though! I've been gathering evidence - emails about the budget cuts, my last performance review which was "meets expectations," and messages from my supervisor about the department downsizing. My hearing is in 10 days and I'm trying not to panic about potentially owing back $2,800. Has anyone else noticed their former employer waiting months to file an appeal? It really feels like they're hoping we won't be prepared to defend ourselves after all this time. But seeing Eva's win and hearing about others who successfully fought these cases makes me feel like I can do this too. Thank you all for sharing your experiences - this community has been a lifeline during such a stressful situation!
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Nalani Liu
•@Mia Roberts You re'absolutely right about employers waiting to file appeals - it seems like a common tactic! I just went through this exact situation and won my hearing last month. The fact that you have emails about budget cuts and a recent meets "expectations review" puts you in a really strong position. One thing that helped me was creating a simple timeline document showing: 1 (when) the budget cuts/downsizing was announced, 2 (when) you were laid off with the reason given as position "eliminated, and" 3 (when) they suddenly changed their story to poor "performance in" the appeal. That visual really helped the hearing officer see how their story doesn t'add up. Also, if you have any coworkers who were also laid off during the same budget cuts, their contact info might be helpful as potential witnesses. The hearing officer in my case seemed very interested in the pattern of layoffs versus isolated terminations. You ve'got solid documentation and the truth on your side. Stay confident and stick to the facts during the hearing. These employers are banking on us being too intimidated to fight back properly, but when you re'prepared like you are, justice usually prevails!
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Layla Sanders
I went through this exact situation about 6 months ago and it was incredibly stressful! My employer initially said "reduction in force" when they laid me off, then suddenly filed an appeal claiming "insubordination" after I'd been getting benefits for almost 3 months. Just like you, I had already spent that money on rent and groceries. The good news is I won my appeal! What really helped was having everything documented - I had the original layoff notice in writing, plus email chains showing other people were laid off at the same time. The hearing officer seemed really unimpressed that my employer was changing their story months later. A few practical tips that made a difference: - Submit all your evidence 48 hours before the hearing (there should be instructions in your packet) - Write out a brief timeline of events to keep yourself on track during questioning - If your employer brings up anything during the hearing that wasn't in their original evidence packet, you can ask for time to respond The hearing itself was much less scary than I anticipated - just a conference call where the hearing officer asked specific questions. Stay factual, don't get emotional even if they say things that aren't true. You've got documentation about the territory changes affecting your performance - that's a strong defense against a misconduct claim. Hang in there, you can absolutely win this!
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GalacticGuru
•@Layla Sanders Thank you so much for sharing your experience! It s'really reassuring to hear from someone who went through the exact same thing with an employer changing their story months later. Your tip about writing out a timeline is brilliant - I ve'been so scattered trying to remember all the details, but having it written down will definitely help me stay focused during the hearing. I m'curious about the evidence submission process - when you submitted your documents 48 hours early, did you email them or was there a specific portal to use? My hearing notice mentions submitting evidence but doesn t'give super clear instructions on the method. Also, did your employer try to bring up other issues during the hearing that weren t'part of their original appeal? I m'worried they might try to throw in random complaints to muddy the waters, even though their official reason was about the territory changes affecting my performance. Your success story gives me so much confidence that I can fight this and win. It s'awful that employers do this to people, but knowing that the hearing officers can see through these tactics makes me feel much better about my chances!
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