TWC hit me with $5,200 overpayment after my boss falsely claimed I quit - appeal advice?
I'm in a complete panic right now. Just got slapped with a $5,200 overpayment notice from TWC because my former employer told them I 'voluntarily quit' when I was actually laid off! I worked at this manufacturing plant for 3 years and was part of a group let go due to 'restructuring' - they even gave us paperwork saying it was a reduction in workforce. Now 4 months later, TWC is saying I was never eligible and want all the money back?! Has anyone fought an employer who lied about separation reason? The determination letter says I have 14 days to appeal but I'm worried I'll still have to make payments while waiting for a hearing. My savings are completely wiped out from being unemployed for so long. Anyone been through something similar with false quit claims? Did you win your appeal?
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Malik Davis
Yes, appeal this RIGHT AWAY! Don't wait the full 14 days. I went through almost the exact situation last year when my retail manager claimed I abandoned my job when I was actually told not to come back after questioning a schedule change. The good news: I won my appeal and didn't have to pay back anything. The bad news: it took almost 3 months to get my hearing. Here's what helped me win: 1) I had text messages showing my manager telling me not to come in 2) I brought a coworker as a witness who confirmed our boss regularly threatened people's jobs 3) I had documented every interaction including dates and times During the appeal process, you don't have to make payments on the overpayment until after the hearing decision. If you lose, THEN you have to start paying or appeal to the next level. Gather any evidence you have - emails, texts, the layoff paperwork showing it was a reduction in force, and names of witnesses who can confirm you were laid off.
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Emma Thompson
•Thank you so much for this! I've been freaking out thinking they'd start garnishing my new job's wages before I even got a hearing. I do have the official paperwork from HR about the layoff that specifically says "position eliminated" and mentions the restructuring. Do you think that will be enough? The only other evidence I have is some texts with coworkers where we were all discussing being shocked about the layoffs. Should I get written statements from former coworkers?
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Isabella Santos
Don't get your hopes up too high. I went thru something similar and LOST my appeal. My boss twisted everything I said during the hearing and the TWC judge believed them over me. Now I'm stuck paying back $3,700 in $100 monthly payments for the next 3+ years. The worst part is TWC wouldn't even consider texts between me and coworkers as evidence because my boss claimed they were 'fabricated after the fact.' The system is totally rigged in favor of employers.
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StarStrider
•thats awful!! the same thing hapened to my cousin and he just ignored it completely. hes still getting collections calls 2 years later but they havent garnished his wages yet. not saying thats what anyone should do but TWC is definitely not on our side!!!
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Ravi Gupta
I successfully appealed an employer's false claim that I quit. Here's what you need to know about the process: 1. The burden of proof is on the employer to show you voluntarily quit without good cause. If they say you quit, they must prove it. 2. That reduction in workforce paperwork is GOLD - make multiple copies and submit it with your appeal. 3. You can request a repayment plan or waiver while waiting for your appeal hearing, especially if repayment would cause financial hardship. 4. During the telephone hearing (most are by phone now), the hearing officer will swear everyone in and take testimony from both sides. Be prepared with specific dates and facts. 5. Gather statements from coworkers who were laid off at the same time - TWC does consider this evidence. 6. Be very clear and concise during the hearing. Focus on the facts: "I did not quit. I was laid off with X number of other employees on [date] due to a reduction in workforce, as shown in the documentation I've submitted." I won my appeal because I had documentation contradicting my employer's story and spoke clearly during the hearing. Don't let them intimidate you.
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Emma Thompson
•This is incredibly helpful, thank you. One question - the letter says my hearing will be by phone. Should I send all my evidence beforehand or can I email it during the hearing? I'm worried about them not having my paperwork when it's time to make a decision.
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Freya Pedersen
I'VE BEEN THRU THIS NIGHTMARE!!!! My manager LIED and said I no-called no-showed for 3 days when I was actually in the HOSPITAL!! TWC sided with them initially and hit me with a $4,200 overpayment. I filed the appeal and waited FIFTEEN WEEKS for a hearing!!!! During that time I couldn't get any more benefits and nearly got evicted. The system is COMPLETELY BROKEN! Texas employers can say WHATEVER THEY WANT with no consequences!!!
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Emma Thompson
•Fifteen weeks!? I can't wait that long! Did you eventually win your appeal at least?
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Omar Hassan
Try reaching TWC directly about your situation before your appeal. I was in a similar situation last year with an employer who claimed I was fired for misconduct when I was actually laid off. I tried calling TWC for weeks and kept getting busy signals or disconnected. Finally used this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to a TWC rep in about 20 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/V-IMvH88P1U?si=kNxmh025COIlIzKh When I finally talked to someone, they explained exactly what evidence I needed and even put notes in my file about the dispute. The rep told me having contemporaneous documentation (stuff created at the time of layoff, not after) is super important. Definitely helped me prepare better for my appeal hearing.
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Chloe Anderson
•Does this service actually work? I've been trying to reach TWC for over 3 weeks with no luck, and I'm getting desperate. I'd try anything at this point.
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Omar Hassan
•Yes, it worked for me. Got through to TWC in about 20 minutes after trying on my own for weeks. The rep I spoke with was able to see notes about my case and gave me advice specifically for employer separation disputes.
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Malik Davis
One more thing that's really important: During your appeal hearing, stick to FACTS only, not emotions. When I won my appeal, the hearing officer specifically mentioned that my testimony was more credible because I gave specific dates and events without embellishment, while my former employer made vague claims they couldn't back up with documentation. Also, when the hearing starts, they'll ask if you received the appeal packet. This packet includes all evidence that will be considered, so MAKE SURE you've submitted your layoff paperwork before the hearing date. If you haven't received the packet a few days before your hearing, call the appeals department immediately.
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Emma Thompson
•Good to know about the appeal packet! I haven't received anything yet but my hearing is probably still weeks away. I'll make sure to call if I don't receive it in time.
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StarStrider
my neighbor got hit with an overpayment and just ignored it lol. eventually they started taking money from his tax refunds but he says it was worth it because he needed the money at the time. probably not the best advice but just saying theres options lol
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Ravi Gupta
•This is definitely NOT recommended. TWC can and will garnish wages, intercept tax refunds, and even add significant penalties and interest to the original overpayment amount. They can also prevent you from receiving unemployment benefits in the future until the overpayment is resolved. Always appeal if you believe the determination is incorrect, but ignoring it is the worst option.
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Chloe Anderson
I work in HR (not for your company) and can tell you that in Texas, the burden of proof for a voluntary quit falls on the employer. If you have that paperwork showing it was a reduction in workforce, you have an excellent chance of winning your appeal. Make sure you upload/submit that documentation with your appeal letter. Your appeal letter should be factual and brief - simply state "I did not quit my position. I was laid off as part of a reduction in workforce on [date] as proven by the attached company documentation." Let the evidence speak for itself.
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Emma Thompson
•Thank you! Should I specifically address their claim that I quit, or just focus on proving I was laid off? I'm worried about appearing defensive if I directly call them liars.
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Ravi Gupta
Focus on proving you were laid off. You don't need to call them liars or even address their claim directly. Simply present the facts of what actually happened, backed by your documentation. The hearing officer will see the contradiction without you having to point it out directly. This approach makes you appear more professional and credible.
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Omar Hassan
Has anyone here gone through the overpayment waiver process? Even if you win the appeal, it might be worth applying for a waiver just in case. My cousin got approved for a partial waiver because of financial hardship, and it reduced what he had to pay back by almost half.
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Malik Davis
@OP - Make sure you're still doing your work search activities and requesting payments during this whole process if you're still unemployed! I made the mistake of stopping my payment requests while my appeal was pending, thinking I wasn't eligible anymore. My appeal took 11 weeks, and when I won, I couldn't get backpay for the weeks I hadn't requested payment, even though I would have been eligible.
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Emma Thompson
•I actually just started a new job last week (thank goodness), but that's a really good point for anyone else reading this thread. I almost stopped my payment requests too when I got the overpayment notice!
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Diego Vargas
u need 2 appeal right away!!! this happnd 2 me and i almost didnt appeal cuz i was so upset but my friend made me do it. took forever (like 2.5 months) but i won bcuz the company didnt even show up 2 the hearing lol. sometimes they dont bother if they know theyre lying
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Isabella Santos
•This is actually a great point. In about 40% of appeal hearings, the employer doesn't even show up, especially if they know they're in the wrong or don't have documentation to back up their claims. If they don't show, you almost automatically win as long as you present your case clearly.
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