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Anastasia Fedorov

Why is a few percent unemployment not necessarily a bad thing - Washington ESD perspective?

I've been thinking about this after my recent layoff and filing with Washington ESD. Everyone talks about unemployment like it's always terrible, but I'm wondering if some level of unemployment might actually be normal or even healthy for the economy? I mean, people switch jobs, companies restructure, new industries emerge. Is there such a thing as 'good' unemployment? Just curious what others think while I'm navigating this whole Washington ESD process.

You're actually touching on something economists call 'natural unemployment' or the NAIRU (Non-Accelerating Inflation Rate of Unemployment). A certain percentage of unemployment is considered normal and healthy - usually around 3-5%. This includes frictional unemployment (people between jobs) and structural unemployment (mismatches between skills and available jobs). It allows for job mobility and prevents wage inflation from spiraling out of control.

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That's fascinating! I never thought about it preventing inflation. Makes sense that some job turnover is actually beneficial.

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Yeah I heard about this in my econ class. It's like how you need some people moving between jobs to keep the labor market flexible.

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From a practical standpoint, having some unemployment means workers have bargaining power and aren't trapped in bad jobs. It also means employers have to compete for talent with better wages and conditions. Zero unemployment would actually be a sign of a stagnant economy with no innovation or growth.

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This makes me feel better about being laid off. I was beating myself up thinking I was just a statistic dragging down the economy.

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Not at all! You're part of the natural flow of the job market. Use your Washington ESD benefits to find something better rather than jumping at the first opportunity.

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Interesting, I've been trying to reach Washington ESD for weeks about my weekly claims. How does this service work exactly?

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The unemployment rate also reflects economic transitions. When new technologies emerge, some jobs disappear while others are created. The people in between jobs represent this natural evolution. It's only problematic when unemployment stays high for extended periods or spikes suddenly.

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That's a really good point. I guess my industry (retail) is going through one of those transitions with online shopping changing everything.

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Same here with manufacturing. Automation is changing everything but new tech jobs are opening up too.

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honestly i never thought about unemployment being anything but bad until i got laid off myself. now im seeing how it gives me time to actually look for something better instead of just staying stuck in a crappy job

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Exactly! That's frictional unemployment in action. You're using the time to find a better match for your skills and interests.

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yeah and washington esd benefits are actually helping me be more selective instead of desperate

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But doesn't unemployment still cost taxpayers money through benefits and programs? How can that be good for the economy overall?

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Good question! Unemployment benefits actually act as economic stabilizers. They keep consumer spending from collapsing during downturns and help people find better job matches rather than taking any available work.

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Plus the taxes that fund unemployment insurance are paid by employers and employees during good times, so it's really a form of insurance that smooths out economic cycles.

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I'm still confused about why ANY unemployment would be good. Doesn't that mean people are suffering and struggling to pay bills?

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Think of it this way - in a healthy economy, most unemployment is temporary and voluntary. People leave jobs to find better ones, recent graduates look for their first career position, or workers retrain for new industries.

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The key is duration and cause. Short-term unemployment during job transitions is normal. Long-term unemployment due to economic collapse is the problem.

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From my experience in HR, some turnover is actually essential for companies too. It brings in fresh ideas, prevents wage stagnation, and forces businesses to stay competitive. A workforce that never changes gets complacent.

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That's interesting from the employer side. I guess it works both ways - employees and employers both benefit from some movement in the job market.

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makes sense. my old company was super stagnant until they started losing people to competitors

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The Washington ESD system actually reflects this concept - they require job search activities because they recognize that unemployment should be temporary and lead to better employment matches. It's not just about getting any job.

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True, they do emphasize finding suitable work rather than just any work. I guess that supports the idea that some unemployment serves a purpose.

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Yeah, the job search requirements make more sense now. They're encouraging quality matches, not just quick placement.

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I'm skeptical of paying for something that should be free, but I've been calling Washington ESD for three weeks about my adjudication.

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I get the skepticism, but think about the value of your time. Three weeks of daily calling vs getting through immediately? Sometimes it's worth it for peace of mind.

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Economists also talk about how unemployment acts as a labor market clearing mechanism. Without it, wages and working conditions would never improve because workers would have no leverage.

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Exactly! It's part of the natural supply and demand dynamics of labor markets. Some friction is necessary for the system to function properly.

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Never thought of it as 'leverage' but that makes total sense. If everyone was employed no matter what, employers could treat workers terribly.

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THIS IS ALL THEORETICAL NONSENSE! When you're unemployed and struggling to pay rent, it doesn't feel 'natural' or 'healthy' at all. Easy to philosophize about unemployment when you're not living it.

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I understand the frustration, but I think the point is that some unemployment is inevitable and serves a purpose, not that individual hardship isn't real.

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You're absolutely right that individual experiences matter. The economic theory doesn't diminish the personal challenges people face during unemployment.

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What about seasonal unemployment? Is that considered part of the 'good' unemployment too?

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Yes, seasonal unemployment is definitely part of natural unemployment. Industries like tourism, agriculture, and retail have predictable cycles that create temporary unemployment.

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I work in landscaping and we always have winter layoffs. It's actually nice to have a break and the unemployment helps bridge the gap until spring.

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The automation thing is really interesting. I got laid off from a factory job that was automated away, but I'm using my Washington ESD time to learn coding. Maybe I'll end up in a better career because of this 'unemployment'.

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That's a perfect example of structural unemployment leading to better outcomes! You're retraining for a growing field instead of clinging to a declining one.

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Good for you! I did something similar when my admin job was automated. Now I'm in cybersecurity and making way more money.

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so basically what you're all saying is that being unemployed right now might actually be normal and not a sign that i'm a failure? because that's what it feels like

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Absolutely not a failure! You're part of the natural flow of the job market. Use this time to find something that's actually a good fit for you.

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The fact that you're thinking about this critically shows you're using the time well. Don't let the stigma get to you - unemployment happens to everyone at some point.

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I've been thinking about this since my husband got laid off. He's been beating himself up, but maybe this is actually an opportunity for him to find something better than his toxic workplace.

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Definitely! Sometimes a layoff is exactly what's needed to escape a bad situation. The Washington ESD benefits give him time to be selective.

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Thanks everyone for this discussion. I feel a lot better about my situation now. Going to use my Washington ESD time wisely to find something that's actually a good fit instead of just any job.

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That's the spirit! You're thinking about it exactly right. Good luck with your search!

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same here. this whole thread really changed my perspective on being unemployed

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One more thing - countries with very low unemployment rates (like 1-2%) often have other problems like wage stagnation or lack of innovation. Japan went through this in the 1990s. So yeah, some unemployment really is a sign of a healthy, dynamic economy.

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Great point about Japan! It's counterintuitive but extremely low unemployment can actually indicate economic problems rather than economic health.

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Wow, I never would have thought of low unemployment as potentially problematic. This whole discussion has been eye-opening.

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The Federal Reserve actually targets around 4% unemployment as the sweet spot - low enough to indicate a strong economy but high enough to prevent inflation from spiraling out of control.

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Exactly! That's the NAIRU I mentioned earlier. It's the rate where wage inflation stays stable without triggering broader economic inflation.

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4% sounds about right based on what I've seen in my economics classes. Any lower and you get labor shortages and wage spirals.

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This has been really helpful for understanding the bigger picture. I'm going to stop feeling guilty about collecting Washington ESD benefits and start thinking of this as an investment in finding the right career path.

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Perfect attitude! That's exactly what the unemployment system is designed to support - thoughtful job matching rather than desperate job taking.

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Same here. This discussion completely reframed how I think about my current situation. Thanks everyone!

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