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Emma Davis

Washington ESD - dealing with chronic unemployment patterns after multiple layoffs

I've been dealing with what feels like chronic unemployment for the past 2 years. I keep finding jobs that last 6-8 months before getting laid off again, then I'm back filing with Washington ESD. This is my 4th time having to file for UI benefits since 2023. Each time I go through the whole process - weekly claims, job search requirements, the works. But I'm starting to wonder if there's something wrong with my approach or if this pattern looks bad to Washington ESD? Does anyone else deal with this cycle of short-term employment followed by unemployment claims? I'm worried they might think I'm not trying hard enough or that I'm somehow gaming the system, but these are all legitimate layoffs due to company downsizing.

Unfortunately this is becoming more common in today's job market. As long as you're meeting all the Washington ESD requirements for your weekly claims and job searches, you should be fine. The system is designed to help people between jobs, even if that happens repeatedly.

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That's reassuring to hear. I always make sure to do my weekly claims on time and keep my job search log updated.

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Yeah the gig economy has made this way more normal than it used to be.

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I've been trying to call Washington ESD for weeks without success. I'll check that out, thanks!

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Never heard of that but honestly anything that helps get through to ESD sounds worth trying.

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The term you're describing is often called chronic unemployment or cyclical unemployment. It's when someone experiences repeated periods of unemployment with short employment periods in between. Washington ESD doesn't penalize you for this as long as each job separation is legitimate and you meet all the requirements during your claim periods.

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Good to know there's actually a term for it. Makes me feel less alone in this situation.

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Is there a limit to how many times you can file for unemployment in Washington?

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There's no specific limit on the number of times you can file, but each claim period has benefit year limits and you need sufficient work history for each new claim.

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This happened to me too! Three layoffs in 18 months, all due to company restructuring. Each time I had to go through the whole Washington ESD process again. It's exhausting but you're not doing anything wrong.

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Exactly! The mental toll of constantly having to restart is probably the worst part.

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The job market is just unstable right now, especially in certain industries.

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One thing to watch out for is making sure your job search activities vary between claims. Washington ESD likes to see that you're actively trying different approaches, not just going through the motions.

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Good point. I've been using the same job sites mostly. Should probably branch out more.

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WorkSourceWA has some good resources for diversifying your job search strategies.

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honestly the whole system is broken if people have to keep cycling through unemployment like this

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I mean, at least the benefits are there when we need them. Could be worse.

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true but it shouldn't be this common

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Have you considered looking into retraining programs? Washington ESD sometimes offers additional benefits for people in chronic unemployment situations who want to learn new skills.

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I hadn't thought about that. Do you know how to find out about those programs?

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You'd need to talk to someone at Washington ESD about what's available. This is another situation where Claimyr might help you get through to ask about training opportunities.

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Keep detailed records of everything - your layoff notices, dates of employment, reasons for separation. If Washington ESD ever questions the pattern, having documentation makes everything smoother.

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Smart advice. I have most of this stuff but should organize it better.

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YES this saved me when they did a review of my multiple claims.

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What industry are you in? Some sectors are just more prone to this kind of instability right now.

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Tech sector. Seems like every company is doing layoffs every few months.

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Oh yeah tech has been brutal. Not your fault at all.

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Might be worth considering adjacent industries that are more stable?

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I was in a similar boat and ended up having to appeal a determination because Washington ESD thought one of my job separations was voluntary. Had to prove it was actually a layoff. The appeals process isn't fun but it worked out.

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Ugh, that sounds stressful. How long did the appeal take?

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About 6 weeks total, but I got backpay for the weeks I was waiting.

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At least you're getting hired! Some of us have been unemployed for months without even getting interviews.

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That's true, I should be grateful for that part. The job search grind is real.

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Different struggles but both suck in their own way

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Make sure you're not burning bridges with these short-term jobs. Sometimes the instability comes from company culture fit issues, not just market conditions.

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All of my layoffs have been company-wide cuts, not performance related. I always leave on good terms.

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That's good then. Some people don't realize how their behavior might be contributing to the pattern.

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The mental health aspect of chronic unemployment is real. Consider if you need any support there too. The constant uncertainty takes a toll.

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You're absolutely right. The stress of never knowing how long each job will last is exhausting.

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Washington state has some mental health resources that might help with this kind of stress.

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Have you tried networking more actively? Sometimes the more stable positions come through connections rather than job postings.

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I'm pretty introverted but you're probably right that I need to work on networking more.

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LinkedIn and professional meetups can be less intimidating than traditional networking events.

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Just want to echo that you're not alone in this. The current job market is creating these patterns for a lot of people. Don't let it get to your self-esteem.

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Thank you, that really helps to hear. Some days I wonder if I'm just bad at keeping jobs.

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Nah, if it was performance they wouldn't keep hiring you elsewhere. This is just the economy right now.

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One more thought - when you do get connected with Washington ESD through Claimyr or otherwise, ask about their rapid reemployment services. They have programs specifically for people who keep cycling through unemployment.

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I'll definitely ask about that. Didn't know such programs existed.

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The state has more resources than most people realize, you just have to know to ask.

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Keep your head up. This pattern is becoming the new normal for a lot of industries. As long as you're meeting Washington ESD requirements, you're doing everything right.

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Thanks everyone for all the support and advice. This thread has been really helpful.

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Good luck with everything! Hope your next job is more stable.

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Consider if there are any patterns in the types of companies or roles that keep laying you off. Maybe targeting more established companies or different sized organizations could help break the cycle.

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That's a really good point. I have been mostly targeting startups and smaller companies. Maybe it's time to look at more established organizations.

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Ava Kim

Startups are notorious for this kind of instability. Bigger companies usually have more predictable layoff patterns at least.

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Document everything about your job searches too, not just employment history. Washington ESD can ask for detailed job search logs and you want to show consistent effort across all your unemployment periods.

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I do keep my job search log updated but should probably make it more detailed.

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The more detail the better if they ever audit your claims.

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This whole thread is making me feel better about my own situation. Good to know chronic unemployment is recognized as a real thing and not just personal failure.

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Same here. The support in this community is really helpful.

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Agreed! I came here feeling pretty alone in this and now I realize it's way more common than I thought.

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