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Aliyah Debovski

When fired how to get unemployment - Washington ESD eligibility questions

I was terminated from my job last week and I'm not sure if I can get unemployment benefits. My supervisor said it was due to performance issues but I feel like it was unfair - they never gave me proper training or written warnings. Can you still file for unemployment with Washington ESD when you've been fired? What do I need to know about the process?

Yes, you can definitely apply for unemployment even if you were fired. Washington ESD will investigate whether the termination was for 'misconduct' or not. Performance issues usually don't count as misconduct unless it was willful or deliberate.

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That's reassuring to hear. How do they determine if it was misconduct?

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They'll contact your employer and ask for documentation. If your employer can't prove willful misconduct, you should be approved.

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File immediately! Don't wait. Even if you're unsure about eligibility, it's better to apply and let Washington ESD make the determination. The worst they can do is deny you, but you might be surprised.

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Good point, I'll start the application today. Is there anything specific I should say about the termination?

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Be honest but stick to facts. Don't badmouth your employer but explain your side of what happened.

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I went through this exact situation last year. Got fired for 'attendance issues' but it was really because I had to take time off for medical appointments. Washington ESD approved my claim after investigating. The key is documenting everything and being truthful in your application.

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How long did the investigation take? I'm worried about how I'll pay bills while waiting.

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Mine took about 3 weeks for the adjudication to complete. You can't get payments until it's resolved unfortunately.

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If you need to talk to someone at Washington ESD about your case, I found this service called Claimyr that actually gets you through to agents. They have a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ and their site is claimyr.com. Saved me hours of calling.

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The system is so messed up. They make you jump through hoops even when you've been wrongfully terminated. Had a friend wait 2 months just to get denied because his employer lied about what happened.

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That's terrifying. Is there any way to protect yourself from employers lying?

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Keep all your employee handbook materials, any emails about your performance, and document dates of any conversations. This helps if you need to appeal.

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been there done that, got fired for 'attitude problems' which was BS. still got my UI benefits tho. just tell the truth on the application

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Thanks, that gives me some hope

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Here's what Washington ESD considers misconduct: deliberate violations of company policy, insubordination, theft, violence, or excessive absenteeism without good cause. Simple poor performance or lack of skills usually doesn't qualify as misconduct.

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What about if you were late a few times? My manager wrote me up for tardiness before firing me.

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Occasional tardiness isn't usually misconduct unless it was chronic and you ignored warnings. If you had valid reasons (transportation, childcare), mention those.

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Make sure you have all your employment documents ready when you apply. Washington ESD will want to know your last day worked, your final pay, and the reason given for termination.

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Should I include the termination letter they gave me in the application?

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You don't upload documents during the initial application, but keep everything in case they request it during adjudication.

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I'm going through this right now actually. Got fired 2 weeks ago and my claim is still in adjudication. It's nerve-wracking but my friends who've been through it say most people get approved unless it was really serious misconduct.

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How are you handling the financial stress while waiting?

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It's tough. I'm applying for jobs like crazy and asking family for help with rent. The waiting is the worst part.

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Hang in there, the adjudication process is stressful but they do backpay from your original claim date if approved.

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One thing to remember - even if Washington ESD initially denies your claim, you can appeal. I've seen plenty of cases where the appeal was successful even when the initial decision wasn't.

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How does the appeal process work?

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You have 30 days to appeal after getting a denial notice. You'll get a hearing where you can present your case to an administrative law judge.

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Also don't forget you'll need to do job searches once your claim is active. Washington ESD requires 3 job search activities per week, so start keeping track from day one.

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What counts as a job search activity?

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Applying for jobs, attending job fairs, networking events, interviews. You log them in your WorkSourceWA account.

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ugh the job search requirement is so annoying when you're already stressed about money. but ya gotta do it or they'll cut off your benefits

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How strict are they about the job search logs?

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They can audit your job search activities at any time, so keep detailed records. Better safe than sorry.

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Just want to echo what others said about applying immediately. I waited a week thinking I needed to 'figure things out' first and basically lost a week of potential benefits. The waiting week starts from when you file, not when you were terminated.

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Oh wow, I didn't know that. I'll definitely file today then.

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If you run into issues reaching Washington ESD by phone, definitely check out Claimyr. I was getting so frustrated with busy signals and dropped calls until someone recommended it to me. Worth every penny to actually talk to a human.

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How does it work exactly?

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They basically call Washington ESD for you and stay on hold, then connect you when they get through. Way better than spending your whole day redialing.

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My sister got fired from her retail job for being 'too slow' and still got unemployment. Like others said, poor performance isn't the same as misconduct. The bar for misconduct is pretty high.

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That's encouraging to hear, thanks for sharing

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One more tip - when you file weekly claims, there's a question about whether you were discharged from work. Make sure you answer honestly about the circumstances. Don't try to hide the fact that you were fired.

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Good to know. I was wondering how detailed I needed to be about that.

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They'll find out anyway when they contact your employer, so honesty is always the best policy with Washington ESD.

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The whole process is designed to be intimidating but don't let it discourage you. Most people who get fired for non-misconduct reasons do end up getting approved. Just follow the rules and be patient.

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Thanks everyone for all the advice. I feel much more prepared now.

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Good luck! Hope everything works out for you.

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I had to use Claimyr twice during my unemployment period - once when my claim got stuck in adjudication and once when I had questions about my job search requirements. Both times they got me through to someone who could actually help instead of just reading me the website info.

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I might need to look into that if I have trouble getting through

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Yeah their demo video shows exactly how it works: https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ. Pretty straightforward.

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Last thought - don't stress too much about the initial application. You can always provide additional information later if Washington ESD requests it during their investigation. The important thing is getting that claim date established.

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Alright, I'm convinced. Filing right now. Thanks everyone!

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Hope it goes smoothly for you!

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