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AstroAlpha

When does ESD's 18-month base year lookback period start? Filing confusion

I'm trying to figure out when the 18-month lookback period actually starts when filing for unemployment in WA. My former employer is claiming I didn't work enough hours to qualify because they're counting from when I first applied. But I thought ESD looks back 18 months from when you file your initial claim? My layoff was Jan 15, 2025 and I filed on Jan 20. Would they look back to July 2023 or is it different? My determination letter mentions something about base year and quarters but it's super confusing. Anyone know exactly how this works?

Yara Khoury

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they look at the last 5 complete quarters before u filed... so like not the current quarter ur in when u apply

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AstroAlpha

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So if I filed in January 2025, they wouldn't count any of my January hours, right? And they'd look at Oct-Dec 2023 through Oct-Dec 2024?

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Keisha Taylor

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The 18-month lookback isn't exactly what you're thinking. ESD actually uses what's called a "base year" which is the first 4 of the last 5 completed calendar quarters before you filed your claim. Since you filed in January 2025, the 5 completed quarters before would be: - Oct-Dec 2024 (most recent completed quarter) - Jul-Sep 2024 - Apr-Jun 2024 - Jan-Mar 2024 - Oct-Dec 2023 Your base year would exclude the most recent (Oct-Dec 2024) and include the 4 quarters before that - so basically January 2024 through September 2024, plus Oct-Dec 2023. That's your "base year" where you need to have 680 hours of work. If you don't qualify under that standard base year, then they can look at an "alternate base year" which uses the 4 most recent completed quarters - so in your case, that would include Oct-Dec 2024.

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AstroAlpha

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Thank you so much for breaking this down! This makes way more sense now. So they're really looking at about 12 months worth of work, not 18 months? I definitely worked over 680 hours in those quarters you listed, so I should qualify.

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Paolo Longo

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Just to clarify something important - while the base year uses the first 4 of the last 5 completed quarters, the "alternate base year" uses the last 4 completed quarters. ESD automatically checks if you qualify under the standard base year first, and if you don't have enough hours, they'll check if you qualify under the alternate base year. So in your case, if you don't have 680 hours in the standard base year (Jan 2024-Sep 2024 plus Oct-Dec 2023), they would then check if you have 680 hours in the alternate base year (Jan 2024-Dec 2024). The determination letter should specify which base year they used to calculate your eligibility. If you think they made an error, you should appeal within 30 days of the determination date.

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AstroAlpha

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Ok, that's really helpful! My determination letter does mention they used the standard base year, but they somehow calculated only 650 hours when I know I worked full-time. I'm going to double-check my paystubs and probably file an appeal. Is there a specific form for the appeal?

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Amina Bah

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I had THE EXACT SAME PROBLEM last month!!!! ESD somehow missed almost 100 hours from my calculation. Turns out my employer reported my hours wrong on their quarterly reports. I tried calling ESD for DAYS and couldn't get through - their phone system is a nightmare!!!

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Oliver Becker

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I had success getting through to ESD using Claimyr (claimyr.com). They got me connected with an ESD agent in about 20 minutes when I'd been trying for days on my own. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ?si=26TzE_zGms-DODN3. It really helped me get my base year hours corrected when my employer had reported them incorrectly.

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CosmicCowboy

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The whole quarters thing is so confusing... I thought they just looked at the last 18 months of work before I got laid off. No wonder my claim got denied! 😫

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Keisha Taylor

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That's a really common misunderstanding. The "18 months" people often talk about is just a rough approximation of how far back they might look. The actual calculation is much more specific with those calendar quarters. If your claim was denied for lack of hours, you can appeal or consider filing a new claim after you've worked more hours.

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This base year stuff is RIDICULOUS and deliberately confusing. I worked for 8 years at my company and still got denied because I took unpaid leave during two quarters of their "base year" calculation. Meanwhile my coworker who worked there only 2 years got approved! The system is designed to deny benefits to as many people as possible. It's pure bureaucratic nonsense!

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Paolo Longo

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That sounds frustrating, but the system isn't designed to deny people - it's set up to ensure people have recent and ongoing attachment to the workforce. The quarterly calculation method is actually used by most states. Did you appeal the decision? Sometimes with longer work histories and special circumstances like unpaid leave, you can get the decision reconsidered.

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Yara Khoury

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btw if ur employer reported ur hours wrong u need to get them to fix it with ESD... happened to my cousin and took FOREVER to fix

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AstroAlpha

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Ugh, that's what I'm worried about. I'm going to check with HR tomorrow to make sure they reported everything correctly. Thanks for the heads up!

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Javier Cruz

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My husband just went through this whole process in December. For his January-filed claim, they looked at October 2023 through September 2024 for the standard base year. When he couldn't qualify with that (he had been in school part of that time), they automatically checked the alternate base year which was January 2024 through December 2024. He qualified under that one. The determination letter will tell you which calculation they used.

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AstroAlpha

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That's exactly my situation - I was in school part-time during early 2024. I'll check my determination letter more carefully to see if they considered the alternate base year. Thanks for sharing your experience!

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Paolo Longo

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To answer your question about the appeal - yes, there is a specific appeal process. You can file an appeal online through your eServices account by selecting the "Appeals" option. Make sure to upload copies of your paystubs or any documentation showing your correct hours. Appeals must be filed within 30 days of the date on your determination letter. If you call ESD, ask them specifically about the hours calculation and which quarters they used. If some of your hours are missing, they can help identify where the discrepancy is coming from.

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AstroAlpha

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Perfect, thank you! I just found the appeals section in my eServices account. I'm gathering all my paystubs now to show the correct hours. Really appreciate everyone's help!

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