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What is youth unemployment rate in Washington ESD - help understanding my eligibility

I'm 19 and just got laid off from my first real job at a retail store after working there for 8 months. I keep hearing about 'youth unemployment' statistics but I'm confused about what that actually means for my Washington ESD claim. Does being young affect my unemployment benefits or job search requirements? I filed my initial claim last week but haven't heard anything back yet. My friends are telling me different things about whether I qualify for the same benefits as older workers. Can someone explain what youth unemployment actually means and if there are different rules for people my age?

Youth unemployment is just a statistical category that tracks unemployment rates for people typically aged 16-24. It doesn't mean you get different benefits through Washington ESD - you follow the same rules as everyone else if you qualify. Since you worked 8 months, you should have enough work history to qualify for regular UI benefits.

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Oh okay that makes sense! I was worried there were separate youth programs or something. So I just wait for Washington ESD to process my claim like normal?

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Exactly, just follow the normal process. Make sure you're doing your weekly claims and job search activities.

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The youth unemployment rate is usually higher than the overall rate because young people often have less work experience and face more competition. But like the previous poster said, Washington ESD treats all claimants the same regardless of age as long as you meet the basic requirements.

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This is so confusing though. I'm 20 and my claim has been stuck in adjudication for two weeks. Is that normal?

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Youth unemployment is mostly just an economic indicator, not a program. The high youth unemployment rates you see in the news (usually around 10-15% compared to 4-6% overall) reflect that young people face unique challenges finding work - less experience, more likely to work in industries with high turnover, etc.

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That explains why it was so hard for me to find that retail job in the first place. Thanks for breaking down the numbers!

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Yeah the statistics can be misleading because they include students who are only looking for part-time work too.

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been there! when I was 18 I thought youth unemployment meant there was some special youth benefits program lol. nope, just means we get screwed over more often in the job market

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Haha yeah I was definitely hoping for some kind of special program for young people!

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if anything we probably have it harder because employers think we'll just quit after a few months

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One thing that might be relevant for you - make sure you understand Washington ESD's job search requirements. You need to make at least 3 job search contacts per week and keep a log. Since you're young and might not have done this before, make sure you're documenting everything properly.

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Good point, I wasn't sure about the job search log requirements. Do I need to submit it somewhere or just keep it for my records?

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Keep it for your records, but Washington ESD can ask to see it at any time. Make sure each contact includes the employer name, date, method of contact, and position applied for.

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I got audited on my job search log after 6 weeks of claims. They wanted to see everything going back to my first week.

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Wait so if I'm 22 and in college part time am I still considered 'youth unemployment' for statistics? I'm so confused about all these categories

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Yes, you'd typically be counted in youth unemployment statistics if you're actively looking for work. But for Washington ESD purposes, being a student might affect your availability requirements.

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Ugh this is getting complicated. I need to call Washington ESD but can never get through.

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The youth unemployment thing is really just about labor market statistics. Politicians and economists use it to track how well young people are transitioning into the workforce. For your actual Washington ESD claim, your age doesn't matter as long as you meet the work and wage requirements.

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That makes perfect sense. I was overthinking it because of all the news about youth unemployment being so high.

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Yeah the media coverage can make it sound like there are special programs when really it's just tracking data.

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honestly the whole youth unemployment conversation is depressing. like we already know it's harder for young people to find jobs, do we really need statistics confirming it?

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I get the frustration, but the data helps policymakers understand where to focus job training and employment programs.

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fair point, I just wish the programs actually helped instead of just tracking how bad things are

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Since you mentioned not hearing back from Washington ESD yet - that's pretty normal for initial claims to take 1-2 weeks for a determination. Just make sure you keep filing your weekly claims even if you haven't been approved yet, because you can't backdate those if you miss them.

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Oh good to know! I was worried I had to wait for approval before doing weekly claims. I'll make sure to file this week.

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Yeah definitely keep filing weekly even during adjudication. I made that mistake and lost 3 weeks of benefits.

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For what it's worth, I was 21 when I first filed for unemployment and had no issues with Washington ESD. Age really isn't a factor in the claims process - it's all about your work history and earnings. Youth unemployment is more about labor market trends than individual benefit programs.

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Thanks, that's reassuring! I keep second-guessing myself because this is all new to me.

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Totally normal to be nervous about your first unemployment claim. The system can be confusing even for people who've used it before.

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The high youth unemployment rates also reflect that young people are more likely to work in industries with seasonal layoffs or high turnover - retail, food service, etc. So even though the statistics look bad, it doesn't mean young people can't access the same unemployment benefits as everyone else.

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That makes sense - retail definitely has a lot of turnover. At least I know I'm not alone in dealing with this.

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yeah plus we're more likely to take temporary or contract jobs that don't offer much job security

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Just to clarify something that got mentioned earlier - being a student doesn't automatically disqualify you from unemployment benefits, but Washington ESD will look at whether you're available for full-time work. If you're only available for part-time work because of classes, that could affect your eligibility.

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Wait really? I'm taking 12 credits but I told them I was available for full-time work. Is that going to be a problem?

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As long as you're genuinely available for full-time work and can rearrange your schedule if offered a job, you should be fine. Just be honest about your availability.

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can we talk about how stupid it is that youth unemployment is always so much higher but nobody actually does anything about it? like great, we have statistics, now what?

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There are actually quite a few programs aimed at youth employment - WorkSource centers, apprenticeship programs, etc. The challenge is getting young people connected to them.

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maybe if the programs were better advertised more people would know about them

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For OP - since this is your first time dealing with unemployment, make sure you understand that you need to actively look for work and be ready to accept suitable employment. Washington ESD defines 'suitable work' differently based on how long you've been unemployed, so the requirements can change over time.

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What counts as 'suitable work'? Do I have to take any job or can I look for something similar to what I was doing?

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Initially you can be selective and look for work similar to your previous job. But after a few months, Washington ESD expects you to consider a broader range of opportunities.

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This thread is actually really helpful! I'm 24 so technically still in the 'youth' category for statistics but I've been working for 6 years. It's weird to think I'm lumped in with teenagers who've never had a job before.

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The age cutoffs for these statistics are pretty arbitrary. Some studies use 16-24, others use 15-29. It's all about what researchers are trying to measure.

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Makes sense. I guess having work experience definitely makes the unemployment process easier even if you're technically 'youth

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One more thing about job searching while young - don't let the high youth unemployment statistics discourage you. Yes, it might take longer to find something, but there are also advantages to being young in the job market. Employers like hiring people who are energetic and willing to learn.

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That's a good way to look at it. I was getting pretty discouraged reading about how bad youth unemployment is.

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Yeah focus on your strengths - adaptability, tech skills, willingness to work different shifts. Those are all things employers value.

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Final thought - youth unemployment is high partly because young people are more likely to quit jobs to look for better opportunities, which technically counts as 'unemployment' even if it's voluntary. So the statistics include people who are being strategic about their careers, not just people who can't find work.

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Good point! The statistics don't distinguish between involuntary job loss and people who quit to find something better.

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Interesting, I never thought about that. Makes the numbers seem less scary when you put it that way.

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