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Callum Savage

What is good cause for unemployment in Washington ESD claims?

I'm trying to understand what Washington ESD considers 'good cause' for quitting my job. My supervisor has been creating a hostile work environment and I'm thinking about leaving, but I don't want to get disqualified from unemployment benefits. Does anyone know what specific situations qualify as good cause under Washington state law? I've heard conflicting information and want to make sure I understand before making any decisions.

Good cause in Washington includes things like unsafe working conditions, harassment, significant changes to your job duties or pay, or if your employer violated labor laws. The key is having documentation to prove your case.

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Thanks! What kind of documentation would I need for harassment? I've been keeping notes but haven't filed any formal complaints yet.

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Keep detailed records with dates, times, witnesses if any. Email complaints to HR create a paper trail. The more documentation the better for your case.

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I quit my last job because they cut my hours by 50% without notice and Washington ESD approved my claim. That falls under good cause as a substantial change in working conditions.

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How long did the adjudication process take? I'm worried about how long I'd be without income while they decide.

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Mine took about 3 weeks. The waiting was stressful but worth it since I got approved.

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That's interesting, I've been trying to call for weeks but can never get through. Does it actually work?

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Yeah it worked for me. Saved me hours of calling and getting busy signals. Was able to talk to someone who explained the good cause requirements clearly.

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be careful about quitting without having everything documented properly!! i made that mistake and got denied initially. had to appeal and it was a nightmare

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What happened during your appeal? Did you eventually get approved?

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yes but it took months and I had to provide tons of evidence. make sure you have everything ready before you quit

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The Washington ESD website has a section about voluntary quit determinations that lists all the good cause reasons. Medical reasons are also considered good cause if you have doctor documentation.

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I didn't think about medical reasons. My stress levels have been through the roof because of this situation.

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If you can get documentation from a doctor that the work environment is affecting your health, that could strengthen your case.

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Domestic violence situations are also good cause. Washington has specific protections for people who need to leave jobs due to domestic violence or stalking.

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That's really important to know. I didn't realize Washington had specific protections for those situations.

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This is all really helpful information. It sounds like I need to be more strategic about documenting everything before I make any moves.

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Exactly. The more evidence you have, the stronger your case will be during adjudication.

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I was in a similar situation last year. Made the mistake of quitting without proper documentation and had to go through a long appeal process. Even though I eventually won, it would have been much easier if I had prepared better.

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What advice would you give someone in my position now?

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Document everything, try to address the issues through proper channels first, and keep copies of all communications. Also consider talking to an employment attorney if the situation is severe.

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Another thing to consider is whether you can get your employer to lay you off instead of quitting. Sometimes employers will agree to this if they know they're creating problems.

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That's an interesting idea. I hadn't thought about that approach.

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It's worth exploring. A layoff is much cleaner for unemployment purposes than trying to prove good cause for quitting.

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just wanted to add that Washington ESD takes these cases seriously but you really need solid evidence. vague complaints won't cut it

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Good point. I need to make sure I'm being specific and factual in my documentation.

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One more thing - if you do quit for good cause, make sure you apply for unemployment immediately. There are time limits on when you can file.

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How quickly do I need to apply after quitting?

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You should apply as soon as possible, ideally within the first week. The longer you wait, the more questions it raises about your reasons for quitting.

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I used that claimyr service someone mentioned earlier when I was dealing with a good cause determination. Really helped me understand what Washington ESD was looking for in my case.

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Did they help you prepare for the interview with the adjudicator?

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They helped me understand the process and what evidence I needed. Made the whole thing less stressful.

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The adjudication process can be intimidating but if you have good cause and proper documentation, you should be fine. Just be honest and stick to the facts.

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That's reassuring. I'm feeling more confident about my situation now.

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Don't forget that even if you get initially denied, you can appeal. The appeal process gives you another chance to present your case with additional evidence.

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How long do you have to file an appeal if you get denied?

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You have 30 days from the date of the determination letter to file an appeal. Don't wait until the last minute.

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workplace discrimination is also good cause. if you can show a pattern of discriminatory behavior that's creating a hostile environment, that's definitely grounds for good cause

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The harassment I'm experiencing might fall into that category. I should look into the legal definition of workplace discrimination.

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I went through this process two years ago and the key thing is being prepared for the adjudication interview. They ask very specific questions about your situation.

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What kind of questions should I expect?

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They ask about what happened, what you did to try to resolve it, why you felt you had no choice but to quit, and what documentation you have. Be ready with specific dates and details.

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Another resource is the Washington State Attorney General's office. They have information about worker rights that might help you understand if your situation qualifies as good cause.

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I'll check that out. It's good to have multiple sources of information.

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i know someone who got approved for good cause after their employer refused to follow safety protocols during covid. health and safety violations are definitely taken seriously

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That makes sense. Worker safety should be a priority for any employer.

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The bottom line is that Washington ESD wants to see that you made reasonable efforts to resolve the situation before quitting. If you can show that, and you have good documentation, you should be okay.

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That's a good way to think about it. I need to make sure I'm exploring all my options before making the decision to quit.

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Good luck with whatever you decide. It's a tough situation but it sounds like you're being smart about getting all the information first.

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Thanks everyone for all the helpful advice. I feel much more prepared to handle this situation now.

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