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Mateo Perez

What if your employer does not show to Washington ESD unemployment hearing - do I automatically win?

I have an unemployment hearing scheduled for next Tuesday with Washington ESD because my former employer contested my claim saying I was fired for misconduct. I was actually laid off due to budget cuts but they're claiming otherwise. My question is - what happens if my employer doesn't show up to the hearing? Do I automatically win my case or does the hearing still proceed? I've been waiting 6 weeks for this hearing and really need to know what to expect. Has anyone been through this situation before?

The hearing will still proceed even if your employer doesn't show up. The administrative law judge will make a decision based on the evidence that IS presented. If you show up and your employer doesn't, that definitely works in your favor, but it's not an automatic win. You still need to present your case clearly.

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Thanks for clarifying that! So I should still prepare like they're going to be there?

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Absolutely. Bring all your documentation - termination letter, emails, anything that shows you were laid off and not fired for misconduct.

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same thing happened to me last year, employer was a no-show and I won my case but the judge still asked me tons of questions about what happened

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How long did the hearing take without them there?

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maybe 15 minutes? way shorter than I expected but still nerve wracking

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Is that legit? I've been trying to call Washington ESD for weeks with no luck.

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Your employer probably won't show because they know they don't have a case. Companies contest claims all the time hoping people will just give up, but when it comes to actually defending their position they often back down.

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That makes sense actually. They never responded to my requests for documentation either.

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Exactly! They're counting on you not following through. Stand your ground.

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Even if they don't show, you need to be prepared to explain exactly what happened when you were terminated. The judge will want details about your job performance, any warnings you received, and the circumstances of your termination. Don't assume it's going to be easy just because they're not there.

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Good point. I have my performance reviews and the layoff notice. Should I bring witness statements too?

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If you have coworkers who can verify the layoffs happened due to budget cuts, that would be very helpful. Either written statements or have them testify by phone if possible.

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OMG this is so stressful!! What if I mess up my testimony?? What if I forget important details?? I have a hearing coming up too and I'm terrified.

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Take a deep breath. Write down the key points beforehand and refer to your notes during the hearing. The judges are used to people being nervous.

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We can do this! I'm nervous too but we have to stick up for ourselves.

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The whole system is rigged anyway. Employers know they can just not show up and face no consequences while we're scrambling to prove we deserve benefits we already paid into through our taxes. It's ridiculous.

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I feel your frustration but in this case it actually works in our favor if they don't show. Shows they don't have evidence to back up their claims.

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True but they shouldn't be able to contest claims without solid evidence in the first place.

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btw make sure u have good phone connection if its a phone hearing, mine cut out twice and had to call back

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Good tip! Is it better to use a landline or cell phone?

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landline if u have one, more reliable

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Mei Liu

I went through this exact situation two months ago. Employer no-showed, I presented my case, judge ruled in my favor within a week. But like others said, I still had to prove my side of the story. The judge asked about my work history, why I thought I was laid off vs fired, and what evidence I had.

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That's encouraging! Did you get your benefits right away after the decision?

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Mei Liu

Yes, they processed the back pay within about 10 days and my regular weekly claims resumed immediately after the favorable decision.

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Quick question - if the employer doesn't show, can they still appeal the decision later?

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They have the same appeal rights as you do, typically 30 days from the decision date. But if they didn't bother showing up to the first hearing, they're unlikely to appeal.

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Makes sense, thanks for the info!

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This reminds me of when I had my hearing three years ago for a different issue. The employer's lawyer showed up but was completely unprepared and basically admitted they didn't have documentation to support their position. Sometimes showing up isn't enough if they can't prove their case.

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That's a good point. Even if they do show up, they still need actual evidence.

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Exactly. Documentation is everything in these hearings. Sounds like you're better prepared than your employer.

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The fact that you were laid off due to budget cuts should make this pretty straightforward. That's not misconduct by any definition. Do you have the layoff notice in writing?

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Yes I have the official layoff notice and emails about the budget situation. Hoping that's enough evidence.

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That should be more than enough, especially if your employer doesn't present counter-evidence.

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good luck! sounds like you have a strong case even if they do show up

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Thank you! Feeling more confident after all this advice.

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One more thing - make sure you join the hearing a few minutes early to test your connection and get familiar with the process. The judges usually do a brief explanation of how things will proceed.

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Great advice, I'll definitely log in early. Do they usually start right on time?

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In my experience yes, they stick to the schedule pretty closely. Better to be ready early than scrambling at the start time.

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Has anyone else noticed that employers seem to contest every claim these days just to delay payments? It's like they're hoping people will give up or find other work before the hearing.

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YES! It's a stalling tactic. They know most people can't afford to wait months for a hearing.

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That's why it's important to follow through with the appeal process. Don't let them win by default.

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That's the third person mentioning this service. Might be worth trying if I have more questions before Tuesday.

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Final thought - even if your employer doesn't show, stay professional and stick to the facts. Don't badmouth them or get emotional, just present your evidence clearly and answer the judge's questions directly.

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Thank you everyone for all the advice! I feel much more prepared now. Will update after the hearing on Tuesday.

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Good luck! You've got this. Sounds like you have solid documentation and a clear case.

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Mei Liu

Looking forward to your update. I'm confident you'll get a favorable decision.

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