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Caleb Stone

What disqualifies you from unemployment in Washington - need to understand my situation

I'm worried I might get disqualified from my Washington ESD unemployment claim and need to understand what could cause this. I quit my last job because my manager was creating a hostile work environment, but I'm hearing that quitting can disqualify you? I also had a part-time job for a few weeks during my claim that I reported on my weekly claims. Are there other things that could disqualify me that I should know about? I'm really stressed about this because I can't afford to lose my benefits right now.

There are several things that can disqualify you from Washington ESD unemployment. Quitting without good cause is a big one, but hostile work environment might qualify as good cause if you can document it. Other disqualifications include being fired for misconduct, refusing suitable work, not actively searching for jobs, or not being able and available to work. Did you document the hostile work environment issues?

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I have some emails from my manager but not a lot of documentation. Should I be worried about the part-time work I did? I reported it all on my weekly claims.

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Reporting part-time work is actually good - that won't disqualify you as long as you reported it correctly. The hostile work environment documentation might help if they question your quit reason.

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I got disqualified once for not doing enough job searches. Washington ESD requires 3 job search activities per week and they actually check sometimes. Make sure you're logging everything in WorkSourceWA!

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Wait, do they really check the job search log? I've been doing the searches but sometimes forget to log them right away.

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Yes they definitely check! I got caught during an audit and had to appeal. Log everything as soon as you do it.

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The main disqualifications I know about are: quitting without good cause, getting fired for misconduct, refusing a job offer that's suitable for you, not being physically able to work, not being available for work, fraud or misrepresentation, and not meeting the job search requirements. There's also stuff about not being a US citizen or not having work authorization.

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What counts as 'suitable work'? I'm in tech but would I have to take any job offered to me?

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Suitable work considers your skills, experience, and local wage rates. You don't have to take just anything, especially early in your claim, but the standards get looser over time.

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This is confusing - how do they determine what's 'suitable' exactly? Seems really subjective.

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Don't panic about every little thing! I was worried about disqualification too but most people who follow the rules are fine. Just make sure you're doing your job searches, reporting any work or income, and staying available for work. If you get disqualified you can always appeal.

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How long do you have to appeal if you do get disqualified?

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I think it's 30 days from when they send you the determination notice. Don't quote me on that though.

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ugh the washington esd system is so confusing about this stuff. they never explain things clearly and then punish you for not understanding their rules. i got disqualified once for something i didnt even know was wrong

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What did you get disqualified for? I'm trying to avoid any mistakes.

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i missed reporting some freelance work i did because i thought it was too small to matter. apparently ANY income has to be reported even if its just $20

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Here's a more complete list of disqualification reasons: 1) Voluntary quit without good cause 2) Discharge for misconduct 3) Refusing suitable work 4) Not able and available 5) Not actively seeking work 6) Fraud/misrepresentation 7) Labor dispute involvement 8) Receiving other benefits that conflict 9) Not meeting eligibility requirements. Good cause for quitting includes things like harassment, unsafe conditions, or significant changes to your job.

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This is really helpful. The harassment I experienced might count as good cause then?

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Possibly, but you'd need to show you tried to resolve it first or that it was severe enough to justify quitting immediately. Document everything you can remember.

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I had a friend who got disqualified because she went on vacation and wasn't available for work during that week. She forgot to mark herself as unavailable on her weekly claim. They're pretty strict about being available.

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So if I go out of town I need to report that? Even for just a weekend?

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I think it depends on how long and if you'd be able to take a job if offered. Better safe than sorry though.

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Another thing - if you're going to school full-time that can disqualify you because you might not be available for full-time work. There are some exceptions but it's complicated.

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I'm not in school but good to know. Are there other common situations like that?

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Yeah, like if you're caring for a family member full-time or have medical issues that prevent you from working. Anything that makes you not 'able and available'.

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The job search thing is huge. Make sure you're doing 3 activities per week and logging them properly in WorkSourceWA. Activities can include applying for jobs, attending job fairs, networking events, or even certain online training courses.

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Do they count things like updating your LinkedIn profile or resume?

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Some activities like that count but there are limits. You can't do the same type of activity every week. Best to focus on actual job applications.

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If you're worried about your specific situation, definitely try to get through to Washington ESD to ask directly. Like I mentioned before, Claimyr really helped me connect with an agent when I couldn't get through the regular way. Sometimes you need that direct clarification.

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How much does something like Claimyr cost? I'm already strapped for cash.

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They focus on the value of getting through rather than cost. When you're worried about losing benefits, it's worth checking out their demo to see if it's right for your situation.

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Don't forget about the earnings deduction rules too. If you work part-time while claiming, they deduct your earnings from your benefits. But if you earn too much in a week, you might not get any benefits for that week. It's not exactly disqualification but it affects your payments.

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How much can you earn before they stop your benefits for that week?

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It depends on your weekly benefit amount. Generally if you earn more than your weekly benefit amount plus $5, you get no benefits that week. But you still need to file your weekly claim.

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I think the key is just being honest and following the rules. Report everything, do your job searches, stay available for work, and keep good records. Most disqualifications happen because people don't understand the rules or try to hide something.

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That makes sense. I've been trying to follow all the rules but sometimes it's confusing what counts as what.

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When in doubt, report it or ask. It's better to over-report than under-report with Washington ESD.

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the whole system is designed to trick you into making mistakes so they can save money by denying claims. be super careful about everything and assume they're looking for reasons to disqualify you

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That's a bit paranoid but there's some truth to it. They do seem to look closely at claims.

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not paranoid when it happened to me! they're definitely not on your side

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One thing people don't realize is that even if you get disqualified, it might not be permanent. Some disqualifications are just for a certain number of weeks, others require you to work and earn a certain amount before you can claim again.

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Really? So if I got disqualified for quitting it wouldn't necessarily be permanent?

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Right, it depends on the reason. Misconduct disqualifications usually require you to work and earn a certain amount. Voluntary quit might be different.

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Also watch out for the overpayment issue. If you get benefits you weren't entitled to, even by mistake, they'll want that money back. That's different from disqualification but related.

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How do overpayments happen? Is it from not reporting income correctly?

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That's one way. Could also be from being disqualified retroactively, or from benefit calculation errors. Always keep good records of what you report.

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The important thing is don't panic if you do get a disqualification notice. You have appeal rights and many disqualifications get overturned if you have good documentation and representation.

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Do you need a lawyer to appeal or can you do it yourself?

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You can do it yourself but having help can make a difference, especially for complex cases. There are also free legal aid services that might help.

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just wanted to say thanks for this thread, im in a similar situation where i quit because of a toxic boss and was worried about disqualification too. sounds like i need to gather my documentation

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Good luck! At least we're not alone in dealing with this stress.

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exactly, this forum is really helpful for understanding the system

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One last thought - if anyone needs to speak with Washington ESD directly about disqualification concerns, that Claimyr service I mentioned earlier has been really reliable for getting through to agents. Sometimes you just need that human contact to understand your specific situation better.

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I might try that. The phone system is so frustrating and I really need to talk to someone about my quit reason.

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I used Claimyr too when I was worried about a potential disqualification. Worth it for the peace of mind when you can actually talk to someone who knows the rules.

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Bottom line - be honest, follow the rules, keep good records, and don't be afraid to ask questions or appeal if needed. The system is confusing but most people who follow the guidelines don't have major issues.

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Thank you everyone for all the helpful information. I feel much better informed now about what to watch out for.

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You're welcome! Hope everything works out with your claim.

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