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Destiny Bryant

Washington ESD - what account is credited for the payment of federal unemployment taxes?

I'm trying to understand how the accounting works for federal unemployment taxes in Washington state. When employers pay their FUTA taxes, what specific account gets credited for these payments? I'm helping my small business owner friend figure out their quarterly filings and we're confused about where these federal unemployment tax payments actually go in the system. Does it go directly to Washington ESD or is there a separate federal account? Any accountants or HR folks who deal with this regularly?

Dyllan Nantx

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Federal unemployment taxes (FUTA) don't go to Washington ESD at all. They go to the federal Treasury and are credited to the Federal Unemployment Trust Fund account. This is completely separate from your state unemployment taxes that go to Washington ESD. FUTA is used to fund the federal portion of unemployment benefits and administrative costs.

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Oh that makes sense! So Washington ESD handles the state portion and the feds handle their own portion through the Treasury. Thanks for clarifying that.

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Wait so we're paying both state and federal unemployment taxes? I thought it was just one payment to Washington ESD.

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Anna Xian

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Yeah the Federal Unemployment Trust Fund is the account that gets credited. It's managed by the US Treasury, not Washington ESD. Each state has their own account within that trust fund, but the FUTA payments themselves go to the federal level first.

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This is why I hate dealing with payroll taxes. Too many different accounts and agencies to keep track of!

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Dyllan Nantx

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It is confusing at first but once you understand the federal vs state split it makes more sense. The federal portion helps fund things like extended benefits during recessions.

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To answer the original question - it's definitely the Federal Unemployment Trust Fund that gets credited when employers pay FUTA. Each state including Washington has an account in that fund, but the actual tax payments flow through the federal system first.

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Thanks! That's exactly what I needed to know for the business filing.

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Ev Luca

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wait im confused about my own taxes now. do i need to pay federal unemployment tax as a contractor or just regular employees?

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Dyllan Nantx

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FUTA only applies to employees, not independent contractors. If you're truly a contractor you don't pay into the unemployment system at all, which also means you can't collect unemployment benefits if work dries up.

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Ev Luca

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oh ok good to know thanks

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Avery Davis

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The accounting can get pretty complex but basically: FUTA taxes -> Federal Treasury -> Federal Unemployment Trust Fund -> Individual state accounts within that fund. Washington ESD then draws from Washington's portion of that fund to pay benefits.

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Collins Angel

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This explains why during the pandemic they had to create all those new federal programs like PUA. The regular state funds weren't enough.

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Marcelle Drum

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Those pandemic programs were wild. I got lost trying to figure out which one I qualified for back then.

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Tate Jensen

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I'm a CPA and deal with this regularly. The Federal Unemployment Trust Fund is definitely the correct answer. It's Treasury account symbol 20X8042 if you want to get really technical about it. Most small businesses don't need to worry about the specific account details though.

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Perfect, that's the level of detail we needed. Thank you!

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Adaline Wong

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Wow didn't know CPAs memorized account numbers like that. Impressive.

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Gabriel Ruiz

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This whole thread is making me realize I don't understand unemployment taxes at all. I thought employers just paid Washington ESD directly for everything.

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Dyllan Nantx

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That's a common misconception. Employers pay both state unemployment taxes to Washington ESD and federal unemployment taxes to the IRS/Treasury. Two separate systems.

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Gabriel Ruiz

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No wonder small business accounting is so complicated. Thanks for explaining.

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Just to add some context - the federal portion (FUTA) is currently 0.6% on the first $7,000 of wages per employee, assuming the state gets the full credit. Washington state unemployment tax rates vary by employer but are separate from the federal portion.

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Peyton Clarke

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Is that 0.6% rate the same in every state or does it vary?

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The base FUTA rate is 6.0% but most states including Washington get a 5.4% credit, bringing it down to 0.6%. States can lose that credit if they have outstanding federal loans though.

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Ezra Beard

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The Federal Unemployment Trust Fund also helps states during economic downturns when their own unemployment funds get depleted. It's like a backup system to make sure benefits can still be paid.

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That makes sense. I remember during 2008 and 2020 they had extended benefit programs that lasted way longer than normal state benefits.

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So just to summarize for the original poster - when employers pay FUTA taxes, those payments are credited to the Federal Unemployment Trust Fund, which is a Treasury account. This is completely separate from state unemployment taxes that go directly to Washington ESD.

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Yes that's exactly what I needed to understand. Federal goes to Treasury/Trust Fund, state goes to Washington ESD. Thank you everyone!

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Aria Khan

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i never knew there was a federal unemployment tax until reading this thread. thought it was all just handled by the state

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Everett Tutum

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A lot of people don't realize there are two separate systems. The federal portion helps fund administration and extended benefits during bad economic times.

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Sunny Wang

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This has been really educational. I'm bookmarking this thread for future reference when I have to explain unemployment tax accounting to clients.

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Same here. The breakdown of federal vs state portions was really clear.

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One more thing to add - the Federal Unemployment Trust Fund account doesn't just get FUTA taxes. It also receives appropriations from Congress for things like emergency unemployment programs during recessions or pandemics.

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Melissa Lin

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That explains how they funded all those extra pandemic benefits that went way beyond what normal unemployment covers.

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Thanks everyone for the detailed explanations. This thread has been way more helpful than trying to parse through IRS publications on my own!

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Romeo Quest

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Government tax publications are written to be as confusing as possible I swear. Forum discussions like this make it so much clearer.

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