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Giovanni Martello

Washington ESD unemployment if fired for poor performance - am I eligible?

Got let go from my retail job last week after 8 months. Manager said it was due to poor performance - missing sales targets and being late a few times. I wasn't given any formal warnings or write-ups, just verbal coaching. Can I still get unemployment benefits from Washington ESD? I've been paying into the system and really need the income while I look for something new. Has anyone been in a similar situation?

You can definitely apply! Washington ESD distinguishes between misconduct and poor performance. Being fired for inability to meet job requirements isn't the same as willful misconduct. File your claim online at esd.wa.gov and let them make the determination.

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That's encouraging! I was worried they'd automatically deny me. Should I mention the tardiness issues when I file?

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Be honest but focus on the performance aspect. A few late arrivals without formal discipline usually won't disqualify you from UI benefits.

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I got fired for performance last year and Washington ESD approved my claim. The key is that it wasn't willful misconduct - I was trying my best but just wasn't a good fit for the role.

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How long did the adjudication process take? I'm worried about bills piling up while they decide.

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Mine took about 3 weeks. They had to contact my former employer for their side of the story.

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Washington ESD looks at whether you were discharged for misconduct connected with work. Poor performance usually doesn't qualify as misconduct unless you were deliberately underperforming or violating clear policies.

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What about attendance issues? I got fired for being late too much but it was because of my car breaking down.

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Attendance can be tricky. If it's due to circumstances beyond your control and you made efforts to resolve it, you might still qualify.

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File ASAP! Even if they deny you initially, you can appeal. I've seen plenty of performance-related terminations get approved for UI benefits after the employer couldn't prove misconduct.

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Good point about appealing. How long do you have to file an appeal if they deny you?

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30 days from the date of the determination letter. Don't wait - appeals can take a while to process.

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ugh washington esd is so backed up right now, took me forever to get through when i had questions about my weekly claim. anyone know if theyre still doing the callback thing?

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The callback system is still available but wait times are long. Better to call early morning or use their online chat if available.

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tried calling at 8am sharp and still waited 2 hours. this system is broken

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Your employer will get a chance to respond to your claim. They'll need to provide documentation showing misconduct, not just poor performance. Most retail employers don't keep detailed performance records unless it's serious.

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That makes sense. My manager was pretty disorganized so I doubt they have much paperwork on me.

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Exactly. Without proper documentation of progressive discipline, it's hard for employers to prove misconduct.

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I was denied initially for performance issues but won my appeal. The hearing officer said being unable to meet job requirements isn't the same as willful misconduct. Don't give up if they deny you!

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How was the appeal hearing? Was it intimidating with your employer there?

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It was actually pretty straightforward. Done by phone and the hearing officer asked fair questions to both sides.

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Make sure you're actively looking for work while your claim is processing. Washington ESD requires 3 job search activities per week and you need to keep records.

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What counts as a job search activity? Just applying online or do I need to do more?

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Applications, networking events, job fairs, informational interviews - they have a list on WorkSource WA. Keep detailed records!

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Been through this exact situation. Filed my weekly claims religiously and eventually got approved after adjudication. The key is being honest about why you were terminated.

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How long did your adjudication take? Mine's been pending for 2 weeks now.

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About a month total. They had to interview both me and my supervisor. Just be patient and keep filing your weekly claims.

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Is there a cost for using Claimyr? I'm already tight on money.

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The Washington ESD website has good info about misconduct vs poor performance. Look under the 'Eligibility' section - it explains the difference pretty clearly.

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Thanks! I'll check that out before I finish my application.

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That section is really helpful. Saved me from worrying unnecessarily about my own performance-related termination.

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whatever you do dont lie on your application!!! washington esd will find out and then youll be in real trouble. better to be honest and maybe get denied than lie and face fraud charges

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Definitely planning to be completely honest. Not worth the risk of making things worse.

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Smart approach. Honesty is always the best policy with government benefits.

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I'm a former Washington ESD claims processor. Poor performance terminations are approved more often than people think. The burden is on the employer to prove misconduct, which is a high bar.

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That's really reassuring coming from someone who worked there! What should I focus on in my application?

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Just stick to the facts about what happened. Don't embellish or minimize - let the adjudicator make the determination based on Washington ESD guidelines.

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File your claim today if you haven't already. There's a waiting week anyway so the sooner you apply, the sooner you might start getting benefits. Good luck!

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You're right, I need to stop overthinking and just file. Thanks everyone for the advice and encouragement!

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Let us know how it goes! Always good to hear success stories for others in similar situations.

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Did they help you get your claim approved faster or just get information?

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Got information that helped me understand the process. Having actual answers made the wait much less stressful.

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