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Washington ESD unemployment eligibility for 1099 contractors - can I get benefits?

I've been working as a freelance web developer for the past 2 years, getting paid via 1099s from various clients. My main client just terminated our contract unexpectedly and I'm scrambling to find new work. I know contractors typically can't get unemployment but I'm seeing conflicting information online. Has anyone successfully applied for Washington ESD benefits as a contractor? I've been paying into the system through my previous W2 jobs but not sure if that matters. Really need to know if it's worth applying or if I'll just waste time.

Generally speaking, 1099 contractors can't collect unemployment benefits because you're considered self-employed. Washington ESD requires you to be an employee (W2) to be eligible. However, there are some exceptions if you can prove you were misclassified as a contractor when you should have been an employee.

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How do I prove misclassification? The client controlled my hours and provided equipment, but I signed a 1099 agreement.

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You'd need to show things like: they controlled when/where you worked, provided training, integrated you into their business operations, etc. The IRS has a 20-factor test for this. But it's an uphill battle.

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I tried applying as a contractor last year and got denied immediately. Washington ESD was pretty clear that 1099 income doesn't count for unemployment eligibility. You might want to look into other options like emergency assistance programs.

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Did you appeal the denial or just accept it? I'm wondering if it's worth the fight.

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I didn't appeal because my situation was clearly 1099 work. But if you think you were misclassified, it might be worth trying.

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Thanks, I'll check that out. Getting through to Washington ESD seems impossible otherwise.

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It worked for me when I needed to resolve an adjudication issue. Sometimes it's worth it to actually talk to someone instead of being stuck in phone hell.

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The key question is whether you have sufficient W2 wages in your base period to establish a claim. If all your recent work was 1099, you probably don't have enough qualifying wages. But if you had W2 employment within the last 18 months, you might still be eligible for benefits based on that work.

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I had a W2 job until about 18 months ago, then went full freelance. Would that count?

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It depends on your base period. Washington ESD looks at the first 4 of the last 5 completed calendar quarters. If your W2 wages fall within that timeframe, you might qualify.

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This is confusing. Can someone explain the base period thing in simple terms?

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omg this is exactly my situation! I was doing contract work for a startup and they basically treated me like an employee but kept me as 1099 to avoid benefits. when they laid me off I had no idea about unemployment

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Did you end up applying? What happened?

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still trying to figure it out tbh. the washington esd website is so confusing

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For clarification on base periods: Washington ESD uses your wages from the first 4 of the last 5 completed calendar quarters before you file your claim. So if you file in January 2025, they'd look at wages from January 2024 through September 2024. You need at least $1,000 in wages during the base period to qualify.

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Thank you! That makes way more sense than the way they explain it on the website.

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So my W2 wages from early 2023 wouldn't count if I apply now?

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Probably not, but Washington ESD also has an alternate base period option if you don't qualify under the standard one.

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The whole contractor vs employee thing is such a mess. Companies abuse the 1099 classification to avoid paying into unemployment insurance, then workers get screwed when they lose the gig. It's not fair but that's the current system.

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Exactly! I feel like I'm being punished for the client's decision to classify me as a contractor.

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This is why I always try to negotiate W2 status when possible, even if it means slightly lower pay.

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I've heard that some people have success appealing contractor denials if they can show they were economically dependent on one client. Like if 90% of your income came from one source and they controlled your work, that might qualify as misclassification.

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This client was about 80% of my income and they definitely controlled my schedule and deliverables.

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You should document everything - emails about schedules, work assignments, any control they had over your methods.

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Just apply anyway. The worst they can say is no, and you might be surprised. I know someone who got approved after initially being told contractors couldn't get benefits. There might be some nuance to your situation that works in your favor.

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That's encouraging. I guess there's no harm in trying.

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Agreed. Don't let internet advice stop you from trying. Every situation is different.

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Update on the Claimyr thing - I used it again last week to get through to Washington ESD about a different issue. Took about 20 minutes to connect me with an agent who could actually answer my questions. Might be worth it for your situation since contractor eligibility can be complex.

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How much does it cost? At this point I'm desperate enough to pay for help.

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I think it's reasonable for what you get - actually talking to someone instead of being on hold for hours. Check their website for current pricing.

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washington esd is so backed up right now, good luck getting through to anyone. ive been trying to resolve an issue for weeks

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Same here. The whole system is overwhelmed.

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This is exactly why I'm hesitant to even try. Seems like a nightmare to deal with.

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One more thing to consider - if you do have qualifying W2 wages in your base period, you'd still need to meet the ongoing eligibility requirements. This includes being able and available for work, actively seeking employment, and potentially job search activities. Just because you qualify initially doesn't mean you'll continue to qualify if you're only looking for contractor work.

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I'm definitely willing to take W2 positions. The contracting thing wasn't really by choice, it was just what was available.

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That's good because Washington ESD requires you to be available for suitable work, which usually means W2 employment.

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Has anyone tried the gig worker provisions that were added during COVID? I'm not sure if those are still in effect but there might be some expanded coverage for contractor situations.

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Those were temporary pandemic programs (PUA) that expired in 2021. Regular unemployment rules apply now.

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Ah, that's too bad. Those programs helped a lot of contractors during the pandemic.

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My brother was in a similar situation - contractor for years then suddenly needed unemployment. He ended up having to prove he was an employee in all but name to get benefits. Took months and lots of documentation but he eventually won his appeal.

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What kind of documentation did he need? I want to start gathering everything now.

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Email chains showing they controlled his schedule, evidence they provided equipment, proof he worked exclusively for them, training materials they provided - basically anything showing they treated him like an employee.

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This thread is making me realize how screwed contractors are in the unemployment system. We pay taxes but can't get benefits when we need them. It's completely unfair.

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Yep, it's one of the downsides of contractor work that people don't think about until it's too late.

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I definitely didn't consider this when I started freelancing. Live and learn I guess.

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Bottom line - if you think you were misclassified as a contractor, it's worth fighting for. Washington ESD has specific criteria for determining employee vs contractor status. Don't let them dismiss your claim without a proper review.

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Thanks everyone for all the advice. I'm going to apply and see what happens. Worst case, I get denied and I'm in the same position I'm in now.

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Good luck! Hope it works out for you.

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Definitely try calling Washington ESD if you get denied. Use Claimyr if you need help getting through - it's worth it to talk to someone who can review your specific situation.

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