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Washington ESD unemployment after getting fired - do people who get fired get unemployment benefits?

I got terminated from my job last week for what my manager called 'performance issues' but I honestly think it was unfair. I've been working there for 2 years with no major problems until recently when they started nitpicking everything I did. Now I'm wondering if I can even apply for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD since I was fired instead of laid off. Do people who get fired actually qualify for UI benefits? I'm really stressed about how I'm going to pay my bills while job searching.

Yes, you can definitely get unemployment benefits even if you were fired, but it depends on the reason. Washington ESD will review your case to determine if you were terminated for 'misconduct' or not. Performance issues usually don't count as misconduct unless it was willful negligence or deliberate violation of company policy.

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That's a relief to hear. How does Washington ESD decide what counts as misconduct? I was never written up or anything formal like that.

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They look at whether you deliberately violated known policies or were just unable to meet performance standards. Being unable to do the job isn't misconduct, but repeatedly ignoring safety rules would be.

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I got fired 6 months ago for attendance issues and still got my unemployment approved by Washington ESD. The key is being honest on your application and during any adjudication interviews they might schedule.

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How long did the adjudication process take for you? I'm worried it will drag on for weeks.

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Mine took about 3 weeks but I've heard it can vary a lot depending on how busy they are.

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Definitely apply right away even if you're not sure about eligibility. The worst they can do is deny it, but you might be surprised. I had a friend who thought she wouldn't qualify after being fired but Washington ESD approved her claim because the employer couldn't prove willful misconduct.

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Good point, I guess there's no harm in applying. Do you know if the employer gets notified when I file?

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Yes they do get notified and have a chance to contest your claim if they want to. That's when adjudication happens if there's a dispute.

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THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS RIGGED AGAINST WORKERS!!! They make it so complicated and confusing on purpose. I got denied initially even though I was clearly fired for bogus reasons and had to go through the whole appeal process. Took 3 months to get my benefits.

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That sounds awful. Did you have to get a lawyer for the appeal or handle it yourself?

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Did it myself. You don't need a lawyer for most unemployment appeals but you do need to be prepared with documentation and evidence.

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Same boat here - got let go last month for 'not being a good fit' which seemed like BS to me. Filed my claim anyway and it's been in adjudication for 2 weeks now. The waiting is killing me financially.

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Have you tried calling them to check on the status? I'm dreading having to deal with their phone system.

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Tried multiple times but gave up after spending whole mornings on hold. Might try that Claimyr thing someone mentioned earlier.

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For anyone dealing with adjudication delays, remember you can still file your weekly claims even while the adjudication is pending. If you're approved, you'll get back pay for those weeks. Just make sure you're actively job searching and documenting it properly.

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Good to know! I wasn't sure if I should keep filing weekly claims or wait for the adjudication decision first.

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Yes definitely keep filing! I made that mistake and missed out on 2 weeks of benefits because I stopped filing during adjudication.

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honestly most ppl i know who got fired still got unemployment unless they did something really bad like stealing or fighting at work. performance stuff usually doesnt disqualify you

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That's reassuring. I definitely didn't do anything like that, just couldn't meet some unrealistic productivity targets they set.

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yeah that sounds like normal performance issues not misconduct. you should be fine

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The burden of proof is on the employer to show misconduct. If they can't prove you willfully violated policies or were grossly negligent, Washington ESD will typically approve your claim. Document everything about why you were fired and be prepared to explain your side during adjudication.

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Should I gather emails or performance reviews before they potentially delete my access to company systems?

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Absolutely, save anything that shows the circumstances of your termination. Email yourself copies if you still have access.

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My sister went through this exact situation 6 months ago. Fired for 'performance' but it was really because she complained about workplace safety issues. Washington ESD approved her claim after adjudication because the employer couldn't prove misconduct. Don't give up hope!

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How long did her adjudication take? I'm trying to figure out how long I need to stretch my savings.

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About a month total, but she was also dealing with the employer contesting the claim which probably added time.

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Quick update for anyone struggling to reach Washington ESD - I used that Claimyr service mentioned earlier and finally got answers about my adjudication case. Turns out there was missing paperwork I didn't even know about. Sometimes you really do need to talk to a human to sort these things out.

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That's exactly what I'm worried about - missing some requirement I don't know about. Glad you got it sorted out!

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This is why the system is so broken. You shouldn't need a third-party service just to get basic information about your own case.

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File immediately and don't let them intimidate you. I've seen too many people who were clearly eligible for benefits get scared away by employers threatening to contest their claims. Washington ESD makes the decision based on facts, not threats.

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My former employer did mention something about contesting if I applied. Should I be worried about that?

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Not at all. Let them contest - if you were fired for legitimate performance reasons and not misconduct, their contest won't hold up.

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been there done that got the tshirt. fired from 3 different jobs over the years and got unemployment every time. employers like to scare you but unless you were stealing or something major youll probably be fine

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Three times? What were the different reasons if you don't mind me asking?

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performance issues, attendance problems, and one time they said i had a bad attitude lol. still got benefits each time after adjudication

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The important thing is to be completely honest on your application. Don't try to make yourself look better or hide details about why you were fired. Washington ESD investigators can easily verify information with your employer, and lying on your application is actually misconduct that can disqualify you.

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Good point. I'll be totally honest about the performance issues even though it's embarrassing.

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Exactly. Better to be honest about performance problems than get caught in a lie that actually would disqualify you.

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Remember you also need to be actively looking for work and keep a job search log. Washington ESD requires 3 job search activities per week and they do random audits to verify compliance. Don't let this requirement catch you off guard.

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Thanks for the reminder! What counts as a job search activity besides just applying for jobs?

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Attending job fairs, networking events, creating/updating profiles on job sites, even some training activities can count. Check the Washington ESD website for the full list.

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One more thing - if you do get approved, make sure you understand when your benefits start. There's usually a waiting week, and if you had any severance pay or vacation payout, that might affect when your benefits begin. Plan your finances accordingly.

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I did get a small severance package. Will that delay my benefits even if I'm approved?

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It might depending on how much and how Washington ESD categorizes it. They'll ask about any payments you received when you file your claim.

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Bottom line: apply now, be honest, keep records of everything, and don't let anyone tell you that being fired automatically disqualifies you. Performance-related terminations are approved for benefits all the time in Washington state.

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Thank you everyone for all the advice and encouragement. I'm going to file my claim today and see what happens!

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Good luck! Hope it goes smoothly for you.

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Keep us posted on how it goes. Your experience might help someone else in a similar situation.

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