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If you get fired can you collect unemployment in Washington - need help with my claim

I got terminated from my job last Friday for what my manager called 'performance issues' but I honestly think it was just because they wanted to cut costs. I've been working there for 2 years with no write-ups or formal warnings before this. Now I'm trying to figure out if I can even apply for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD or if getting fired automatically disqualifies me. I've heard conflicting things from friends - some say you can't get UI if you're fired, others say it depends on the reason. Does anyone know how this actually works? I really need these benefits while I look for another job.

You can absolutely collect unemployment even if you were fired! Washington ESD doesn't automatically disqualify you just because you were terminated. What matters is WHY you were fired. If it was for misconduct (like stealing, violence, or willful violation of company policy), then you'll be disqualified. But if it was for performance issues, inability to do the job, or business reasons, you should be eligible.

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That's such a relief to hear! They said it was performance but I never got any formal warnings or coaching. Should I mention that when I file my claim?

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Yes, definitely include all the details about lack of warnings or progressive discipline. Washington ESD will investigate and contact your employer to get their side too.

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File your claim ASAP! Don't wait. Even if Washington ESD initially denies it, you can appeal. I got fired for 'poor performance' and it took 3 weeks but they approved my UI benefits after reviewing everything.

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How long did the whole process take from filing to getting your first payment?

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About 5 weeks total, but 2 of those were just waiting for the adjudication decision. Once approved, payments started the next week.

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I had a similar situation and couldn't get through to Washington ESD for weeks to check on my claim status. Ended up using claimyr.com to actually reach an agent - they have this system that handles the calling for you. There's a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Saved me hours of busy signals and getting hung up on.

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Interesting, I've never heard of that service. Did they actually help you get through to someone at Washington ESD?

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Yeah, got connected to an actual agent within a few hours instead of spending days trying to call myself. Was worth it just to get a real person to explain what was happening with my claim.

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Is there a cost for using that service? Sounds too good to be true tbh

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MAKE SURE YOU TELL THE TRUTH on your application!! They will find out what really happened anyway when they contact your employer. If there's any discrepancy between your story and theirs, it could hurt your case. Just stick to the facts about what happened.

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Good point. I'm just worried they'll spin it differently than what actually happened. Should I document everything I remember?

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Yes! Write down dates, what was said, who was present, any emails or documents. Keep records of everything related to your termination.

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The key distinction is 'misconduct' vs everything else. Misconduct has to be willful and substantial. Poor performance, not being a good fit, or even making mistakes usually won't disqualify you from UI benefits. Washington ESD looks at whether you intentionally violated known policies or expectations.

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What if they fired you for attendance issues? I was late a bunch of times because of childcare problems but never got written up.

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Attendance can be tricky. If you were chronically late without valid reasons and knew it violated policy, that might be misconduct. But if it was due to circumstances beyond your control and you didn't get progressive discipline, you might still qualify.

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Don't let them intimidate you either. Some employers will tell you that you can't get unemployment if you're fired, but that's not always true. They might be trying to get you to quit instead so they don't have to pay into the UI system.

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Ugh, that's probably what they were doing. They kept saying things like 'it would be better for everyone if you just resigned' during the meeting.

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Classic move. Good thing you didn't fall for it! Quitting makes it much harder to get UI benefits.

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Also remember that even if your claim goes to adjudication (which it probably will since you were terminated), keep filing your weekly claims. Don't stop filing just because the decision is pending. If you're approved later, you'll get backpay for those weeks.

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What exactly is adjudication? I keep seeing that term but don't understand what it means.

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Adjudication is when Washington ESD has to investigate your claim because there's a question about your eligibility. They'll contact you and your employer to get the facts before making a decision.

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How long does adjudication usually take? I've been waiting 3 weeks already.

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If you do end up in adjudication limbo and need to talk to someone at Washington ESD, that Claimyr service I mentioned earlier really does work. I was skeptical at first but it beats sitting on hold for hours or getting that busy signal over and over.

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I might have to try that. I've called Washington ESD probably 50 times in the past two weeks and only got through once, then got disconnected after 10 minutes on hold.

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That's exactly why I started using it. The stress of trying to reach them was making everything worse.

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i got fired from my last job for being 'insubordinate' which was basically just me questioning why we had to work mandatory overtime every weekend. still got approved for unemployment after they investigated. employer tried to fight it but washington esd sided with me

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That gives me hope! Did you have to provide any evidence or documentation during the investigation?

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yeah i had to write a statement explaining my side and they asked for any emails or texts i had about the situation. also had to do a phone interview with the adjudicator

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Wait, so if I got fired for poor performance but I was actually doing my best and they just had unrealistic expectations, I can still get UI? I thought getting fired meant automatic disqualification.

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That's a common misconception. As long as you weren't fired for willful misconduct, you should be eligible. Unrealistic expectations or lack of skills/training usually don't count as misconduct.

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Wow, I wish I had known this 6 months ago. I didn't even apply because I thought I was automatically disqualified.

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File your claim online at esd.wa.gov as soon as possible. The sooner you file, the sooner your benefit year starts. Even if there's an investigation, you want to get the process started immediately.

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I'm going to do it tonight. Thanks everyone for the encouragement and advice!

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One more thing - if your employer contests your claim, don't panic. They often do this automatically even when they don't have a strong case. Washington ESD will still investigate fairly and make their own decision based on the evidence.

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What happens if they contest it? Does that mean I definitely won't get benefits?

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No, it just means it goes to adjudication where both sides present their case. Many contested claims still get approved if the firing wasn't for misconduct.

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Remember that misconduct has a specific legal definition in Washington. It's not just any reason for termination. It has to be a willful disregard of the employer's interests, deliberate violation of rules, or criminal activity. Poor performance, personality conflicts, or business reasons don't qualify as misconduct.

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This is such important info. Wish more people understood this distinction instead of just assuming they can't get UI if they're fired.

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also make sure you keep looking for work and document your job search once you start getting benefits. washington esd requires you to make a certain number of job contacts each week

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How many job contacts do you need per week?

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i think its 3 job search activities per week but check the requirements when you file. they're pretty specific about what counts

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Just want to add that if anyone else is struggling to reach Washington ESD like I was, that Claimyr service really is legitimate. I was hesitant about using a third-party service but it worked exactly as advertised and saved me so much frustration.

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I'm curious about this too. Did you have to give them personal information to use the service?

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No, they just handle the calling part. You still talk directly to the Washington ESD agent once they get you connected.

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Final advice: don't give up if your initial claim gets denied. You have appeal rights and many decisions get overturned on appeal, especially in termination cases where the employer can't prove actual misconduct occurred.

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How long do you have to file an appeal if they deny your claim?

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You have 30 days from the date of the determination to file an appeal. Don't wait - appeal deadlines are strict.

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Good luck with your claim! Most people who get fired for performance reasons do end up getting approved for UI benefits once Washington ESD investigates. The system is designed to help people who lose their jobs through no fault of their own.

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Thank you! I feel so much more confident about filing now. This thread has been incredibly helpful.

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Just wanted to share that I was in almost the exact same situation 8 months ago - fired for 'performance issues' after 3 years with no warnings. Got approved for full UI benefits after a 4-week investigation. Don't let them scare you into thinking you're not eligible!

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That's so encouraging to hear! Did your employer try to contest your claim?

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They did, but Washington ESD saw right through it. The lack of progressive discipline really helped my case.

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The bottom line is that Washington ESD looks at each case individually. Getting fired doesn't automatically disqualify you - what matters is the specific circumstances and whether true misconduct occurred. File your claim and let them make the decision.

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Filing my claim right now. Thanks everyone for all the support and information!

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Great decision! Make sure to be thorough and honest in your application. Include all relevant details about your termination and any lack of warnings or progressive discipline. Good luck with your claim!

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Will do. I'll update this thread once I hear back about my claim status.

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