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Washington ESD structural unemployment - which type of unemployment is the one the fed & government officials seek to avoid?

I've been on unemployment for 8 months now and just got into a discussion with my brother who works in finance about different types of unemployment. He mentioned that there's one specific type that the Federal Reserve and government officials really try to prevent because it's the most damaging to the economy long-term. I'm wondering if my situation falls into this category since I've been struggling to find work in my field (manufacturing) and most of the jobs available require completely different skills. My Washington ESD weekly claims keep getting approved but I'm starting to wonder if I should be looking at retraining programs. Does anyone know which type of unemployment they're most worried about and if Washington ESD offers help for people in my situation?

Your brother is talking about structural unemployment - that's the type economists and policymakers fear most. It happens when there's a fundamental mismatch between workers' skills and available jobs, often due to technological changes or industry shifts. Unlike cyclical unemployment (from recessions) or frictional unemployment (normal job switching), structural unemployment can persist for years.

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That sounds exactly like what's happening to me. My manufacturing plant closed and most of the new jobs are in tech or healthcare. Is this why my job search has been so difficult?

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Exactly. Manufacturing has been declining in many areas while service sectors grow. The good news is Washington ESD has retraining programs specifically for this situation.

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I've been dealing with something similar for 6 months. The frustrating part is trying to get through to Washington ESD to ask about their training programs. I've called dozens of times and either get busy signals or get disconnected after waiting on hold forever.

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OMG yes! I've wasted so many hours trying to reach someone at Washington ESD. It's like they don't want to help us transition to new careers.

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I actually found a solution for this problem. There's a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that helps you get through to Washington ESD agents quickly. They have this video demo that shows how it works: https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ. I used it to finally speak with someone about retraining options.

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Really? How does that work? I'm getting desperate here and need to know about WorkSource programs.

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The Federal Reserve definitely focuses on structural unemployment because it doesn't respond to traditional monetary policy. They can lower interest rates to help with cyclical unemployment, but structural unemployment requires education, retraining, and sometimes people relocating to different areas.

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This is why they always talk about 'full employment' being around 4-5% unemployment - that remaining percentage is mostly structural and frictional unemployment that can't be eliminated.

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So even in a perfect economy, there would still be people like me struggling to find work because our skills don't match what's needed?

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Unfortunately yes, but that's why retraining programs exist. Washington ESD partners with community colleges to offer programs in growing fields.

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I hate to be negative but I've been structurally unemployed for over a year and these 'retraining programs' are mostly a joke. Half of them are for jobs that don't actually exist in our area, and the other half pay less than unemployment benefits.

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That's not entirely true. My cousin went through a medical coding program through WorkSource and now makes $22/hour working from home.

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Medical coding is saturated now too. Everyone's been told it's the 'next big thing' for the past 5 years.

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The key is picking programs in genuinely growing fields, not just whatever sounds easy. Healthcare support, renewable energy, and certain tech fields are still expanding.

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From an economic policy perspective, structural unemployment is problematic because it reduces the economy's productive capacity permanently if not addressed. It's not just about individual hardship - it represents lost human capital that can't be recovered through normal economic cycles.

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This is exactly why the government invests in job retraining programs and why Washington ESD tries to connect people with WorkSource services early in their unemployment.

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I wish I had known about this sooner. I've been focusing on finding another manufacturing job instead of looking at retraining options.

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Wait, can someone explain the difference between all these types of unemployment? I thought unemployment was just unemployment. My Washington ESD claim has been going for 4 months and I'm just looking for any job.

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There are three main types: Frictional (normal job searching), Cyclical (from economic downturns), and Structural (skills mismatch). Your situation might be different depending on why you're unemployed and what's available in your field.

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I got laid off from retail management when my store closed. Most management jobs want experience with systems I've never used.

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That sounds like structural unemployment too. Retail is changing rapidly with automation and online shopping.

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The thing about structural unemployment is that it often requires geographical mobility too. Sometimes the jobs exist, but they're in different states or regions. That's another reason policymakers worry about it - people can't always just move for work.

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Exactly. I have family ties here and can't relocate, but most of the jobs in my field have moved to other states with lower costs.

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Same issue here. My kids are in school and my spouse has a job, so moving isn't really an option.

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I successfully transitioned from structural unemployment last year. The key was getting real information from Washington ESD about which training programs actually lead to jobs. I ended up using that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier to get through to a counselor who walked me through the options.

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What field did you transition into? I'm trying to decide between healthcare and IT support.

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I went into HVAC repair. It's not glamorous but there's consistent demand and decent pay. The program was 6 months and Washington ESD covered most of the costs.

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How long did it take you to find work after finishing the program?

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About 3 weeks. The program had job placement assistance and most graduates found work quickly.

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The scary thing about structural unemployment is that it can become permanent if you're out of work too long. Skills atrophy and employers start viewing long gaps negatively. That's why economists push for quick intervention.

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This is keeping me up at night. I'm at 8 months unemployed and starting to feel like damaged goods.

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Don't give up! Eight months isn't that long in today's job market, especially if you're dealing with industry changes.

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Quick question - does anyone know if Washington ESD counts time spent in approved training programs toward your job search requirements? I'm thinking about enrolling but don't want to mess up my weekly claims.

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Yes, approved training programs satisfy your job search requirements. You might even be eligible for extended benefits while in training.

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Make sure to get approval BEFORE starting any program though. Washington ESD has specific procedures for this.

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Thanks! I'll need to call Washington ESD to get this sorted out properly.

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I keep seeing people mention Claimyr for getting through to Washington ESD. Is this legit? I've been trying to reach them for weeks about training program approval and it's been impossible.

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It's definitely legit. I was skeptical at first too, but it actually worked. Much better than spending hours on hold or getting disconnected. Check out their demo video - it explains exactly how they help you reach Washington ESD agents.

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I tried it last month and got through to someone within 20 minutes. Finally got my training program approved and started this week.

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From a policy standpoint, structural unemployment is the hardest to address because it requires coordinated efforts between education systems, employers, and government agencies. It's not just about creating jobs - it's about creating the RIGHT jobs and ensuring people have the skills for them.

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This is why you see so much focus on STEM education and community college partnerships with employers. They're trying to prevent structural unemployment before it happens.

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I wish someone had explained this to me when I first started working. I might have made different career choices knowing how industries can disappear.

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The regional aspect of structural unemployment is huge too. Some areas have been hit harder by industry changes than others. Where I live, we lost most of our manufacturing but haven't gained much in other sectors.

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Same here. Our town used to have three major employers and now it's mostly service jobs that pay half as much.

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This is why some economists support programs that help with relocation costs, not just retraining.

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One thing I learned from my Washington ESD counselor is that they track unemployment by type to help plan their services. If you're dealing with structural unemployment, they have different resources than if you're just between jobs in a stable field.

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How do they determine which category you're in? I never got asked about this when I filed my claim.

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It's based on your work history, the reason for your unemployment, and what's happening in your industry. They look at labor market data to see if your field is growing or declining.

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Bottom line - if you've been unemployed for months and can't find work in your field, you're probably dealing with structural unemployment. The sooner you recognize this and start looking at retraining options, the better off you'll be long-term.

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This thread has been really eye-opening. I think I need to stop looking for manufacturing jobs and start researching training programs.

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Good decision. The manufacturing jobs that do exist now require completely different skills than they did 10 years ago anyway.

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