Washington ESD - is paid family leave considered unemployment benefits?
I'm really confused about something and hoping someone can clarify. I'm currently receiving paid family leave through Washington state to care for my newborn, and I'm wondering if this counts as unemployment benefits? My employer is asking me to fill out some paperwork about benefit coordination and I don't want to mess anything up. The paid family leave is through the state but I'm not sure if it's handled by Washington ESD or a different department. Has anyone dealt with this situation before?
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Dmitry Ivanov
No, paid family leave is completely separate from unemployment insurance. Paid family leave is administered by the Employment Security Department but it's a different program entirely. You can't collect both at the same time though.
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StarSailor
•Thank you! So they're both through Washington ESD but different programs? That makes sense why I was confused.
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Dmitry Ivanov
•Exactly. Washington ESD handles multiple programs - unemployment insurance, paid family leave, and paid medical leave. They're all separate benefit types with different eligibility requirements.
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Ava Garcia
I was on paid family leave last year and it definitely doesn't count as unemployment. The eligibility requirements are totally different too - for family leave you need to have worked and paid into the system, but you don't need to be actively looking for work like with UI.
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StarSailor
•That's really helpful to know about the job search difference. I was worried I'd have to start looking for work while caring for my baby.
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Miguel Silva
•Yeah the job search requirement is what really distinguishes unemployment from other benefits. With family leave you're expected to return to your job when your leave ends.
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Zainab Ismail
Just to add some clarification - paid family leave in Washington is funded through payroll deductions (you'll see it on your paystub as 'FML' usually), while unemployment benefits are funded through employer taxes. They're administered by the same agency but operate under completely different rules and funding sources.
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StarSailor
•Oh that makes perfect sense! I do remember seeing those deductions on my paystubs. So I'm basically getting back what I paid into the system.
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Connor O'Neill
•Right, and the benefit amounts are calculated differently too. Family leave is based on your average weekly wage, while unemployment has a different formula and maximum weekly benefit amount.
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Zainab Ismail
•Exactly. And family leave can be up to 12 weeks in a year, while unemployment can potentially last much longer depending on the economic situation and your work history.
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QuantumQuester
I had to deal with this confusion when I was trying to get through to Washington ESD about my family leave claim. Spent hours on hold trying to reach someone. Finally found this service called Claimyr that helped me get connected to an actual person at the ESD. You can check them out at claimyr.com - they even have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works.
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StarSailor
•That sounds really useful! I haven't had any issues with my family leave claim yet but good to know there's help available if I need to reach someone.
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Yara Nassar
•I've heard of Claimyr before. Did they actually help you get through or is it just another call service?
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QuantumQuester
•They actually got me connected within a few hours. I was able to get my questions answered about benefit coordination when I had both family leave and some worker's comp issues. Much better than trying to call on my own.
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Ava Garcia
Just want to emphasize that you definitely cannot collect both unemployment and paid family leave at the same time. The state systems are designed to prevent that. If you're on family leave, you're not considered unemployed since you have a job to return to.
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StarSailor
•That makes total sense. I'm planning to return to my job after my leave ends anyway.
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Keisha Williams
•What happens if your employer eliminates your position while you're on family leave though? Can you then apply for unemployment?
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Dmitry Ivanov
•That's a more complex situation. You'd need to contact Washington ESD directly to discuss your specific circumstances. There are protections for people on family leave but every situation is different.
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Yara Nassar
wait so if I'm getting paid family leave benefits I can't also get unemployment if I lose my job? that doesn't seem right
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Zainab Ismail
•You can't collect both simultaneously, but if your employment situation changes while on family leave, you'd need to report that change to Washington ESD. They'll determine your eligibility for different benefits based on your new circumstances.
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Yara Nassar
•ok that makes more sense. so I need to report any job changes even while on family leave
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Miguel Silva
The easiest way to think about it is that paid family leave is for when you need time off work for family reasons (new baby, sick family member, etc.) but you still have a job. Unemployment is for when you don't have a job at all and are actively looking for work. Two totally different situations.
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StarSailor
•That's a really clear way to explain it. Thank you! I feel much more confident about my situation now.
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Paolo Ricci
•I wish they explained this better on the Washington ESD website. I was confused about this same thing when I had my kid.
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Connor O'Neill
For what it's worth, I've been through both programs at different times and the application processes are completely different too. Family leave requires medical documentation and employer information, while unemployment focuses on your work history and reason for separation.
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StarSailor
•Good point about the documentation differences. I did have to provide medical records for my family leave claim.
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Dmitry Ivanov
•And with unemployment you have to actively search for work and report your job search activities, which obviously doesn't apply to family leave since you're not looking for a new job.
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Amina Toure
Just to throw this out there - make sure your employer understands the difference too. Some HR departments get confused about these benefits and might give you incorrect information about what you need to report or coordinate.
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StarSailor
•That's actually why I'm asking these questions! My HR department seemed unsure about some of the details.
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Zainab Ismail
•Always good to verify information with Washington ESD directly rather than relying solely on employer HR departments. They mean well but don't always have the most current information about benefit programs.
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Oliver Zimmermann
One thing to keep in mind is that both programs require you to meet certain wage and hours requirements, but they're calculated differently. For family leave, you need to have worked at least 820 hours in the qualifying period.
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StarSailor
•I think I met those requirements since I've been working full-time for over two years before having my baby.
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Oliver Zimmermann
•Yeah, if you've been working full-time for two years you definitely meet the requirements for family leave. Unemployment has its own separate work history requirements.
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Keisha Williams
This is really helpful information. I'm planning to take family leave next year and was wondering about this exact thing. Sounds like I don't need to worry about unemployment implications as long as I'm returning to my job.
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Dmitry Ivanov
•Exactly right. As long as you have a job to return to and you're taking leave for qualifying family reasons, it's a completely separate program from unemployment insurance.
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Keisha Williams
•Perfect. Thanks for all the clarification everyone!
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CosmicCommander
I actually had to contact Washington ESD about this same question last month when I was coordinating benefits. The hold times were brutal - over 2 hours just to get someone on the phone. Finally used Claimyr to get through faster. Saved me so much time and frustration.
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StarSailor
•Good to know there are options for getting through to them when needed. Hopefully I won't need to call but it's reassuring to know help is available.
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QuantumQuester
•Yeah, Claimyr really makes a difference when you need to actually talk to someone at the ESD. Their system handles all the waiting and calls you back when they get an agent on the line.
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Natasha Volkova
Does anyone know if taking paid family leave affects your unemployment benefits eligibility in the future? Like if I take family leave now and then lose my job six months later?
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Zainab Ismail
•Taking family leave shouldn't affect your future unemployment eligibility as long as you return to work after your leave ends. The work history requirements for unemployment look at your total earnings and employment, not whether you took leave.
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Natasha Volkova
•That's a relief. I was worried it might somehow count against me later.
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Dmitry Ivanov
•The only thing that could potentially affect future unemployment benefits is if taking leave somehow changes your work history or earnings, but that would be unusual. Most people return to their same job and wage after family leave.
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Javier Torres
This thread has been super helpful! I'm dealing with a similar situation and was getting different answers from different people. Nice to see it all laid out clearly.
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StarSailor
•I'm so glad I asked! I was getting confused by all the different information too.
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Miguel Silva
•Yeah, these benefit programs can be really confusing when you're dealing with them for the first time. The terminology and requirements all start to blur together.
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Emma Davis
One more thing to consider - if you're getting paid family leave, you might also be eligible for paid medical leave if you have complications related to childbirth. That's a third separate program also administered by Washington ESD.
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StarSailor
•I didn't know about paid medical leave being separate too. So there are really three different programs?
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Emma Davis
•Yep - unemployment insurance, paid family leave, and paid medical leave. All through Washington ESD but all with different rules and purposes.
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Zainab Ismail
•And you can potentially use both family leave and medical leave for the same situation, like childbirth recovery and bonding with a new baby. But again, none of them are the same as unemployment benefits.
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Malik Johnson
Thanks for asking this question OP. I've been wondering the same thing but kept forgetting to look it up. Now I know I don't need to worry about any unemployment complications while I'm on my family leave.
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StarSailor
•You're welcome! I'm glad it helped other people too. It's such a relief to finally understand how these programs work.
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Isabella Ferreira
For anyone else reading this - if you need to contact Washington ESD about any of these programs and can't get through on the phone, I've had good luck with Claimyr too. Much easier than trying to call repeatedly throughout the day.
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StarSailor
•Seems like a lot of people have had success with that service. Good to know it's a reliable option.
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CosmicCommander
•Definitely. I was skeptical at first but it really does work. Saved me hours of frustration trying to get through on my own.
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Ravi Sharma
Bottom line: paid family leave = you have a job, taking time off for family reasons. Unemployment = you don't have a job, looking for work. Completely different situations and benefit programs.
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StarSailor
•Perfect summary! That's exactly what I needed to understand. Thank you everyone for all the helpful responses!
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NebulaNomad
•Great thread, lots of good information here for anyone dealing with these questions.
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