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Liam O'Sullivan

Washington ESD claim filed after robot replaced my job - what type of unemployment is this?

Just got laid off last week because my company installed automated equipment that basically does my job. I worked in packaging for 8 years and they said the new machines can do triple the work with no breaks. Filed my Washington ESD claim yesterday but I'm confused about what category this falls under. Is this considered regular unemployment or something different? The termination letter just says "position eliminated due to operational efficiency improvements" but everyone knows it's because of the robots. Will this affect my weekly claims or job search requirements? Has anyone else dealt with this type of situation with Washington ESD?

This would be classified as regular unemployment insurance (UI) through Washington ESD. The reason for your job loss doesn't change the benefit type - whether you're replaced by automation, laid off due to budget cuts, or your position is eliminated, it's all processed the same way as long as you weren't terminated for misconduct.

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That's a relief. I was worried there might be some special category that would complicate things.

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Yeah the Washington ESD system doesn't really distinguish between different types of layoffs, just whether you qualify for benefits or not.

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Sorry to hear about your situation. Same thing happened to me 2 years ago at a warehouse - they brought in these huge automated sorting machines and cut 40% of the workforce. Washington ESD processed my claim normally, took about 2 weeks to get approved.

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How long did it take you to find new work? I'm worried my skills might be outdated now.

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About 4 months, but I used that time to get some certifications through WorkSource. They have good programs for people whose jobs were automated.

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Interesting, I'll check that out. The Washington ESD phone system is notoriously difficult.

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Never heard of that service before. Does it actually work or is it just another scam?

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It's legit - got me through to an actual ESD rep in about 20 minutes when I'd been trying for days on my own.

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THE ROBOTS ARE TAKING OVER AND NOBODY CARES!! This is happening everywhere and Washington ESD isn't doing anything to help retrain workers. We need special programs for automation displacement but all they do is treat us like regular layoffs.

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Actually WorkSource WA does have retraining programs specifically for workers displaced by technology. You should look into their WIOA funding options.

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I looked into that already - the wait list is 6 months long and they only cover certain fields!

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From Washington ESD's perspective, this is standard unemployment. However, you might qualify for additional services through WorkSource since your job was eliminated due to technological changes. They often have specialized programs for workers affected by automation, including extended training opportunities.

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Should I mention the automation aspect when I file my weekly claims or just keep it simple?

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Keep your weekly claims straightforward - just report your job search activities as required. The automation part is already documented in your initial claim.

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this is happening to everyone now, my brother lost his job to some AI thing last month and he had to file regular unemployment too. Washington ESD doesn't really care why you lost your job as long as it wasn't your fault

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Did your brother have any trouble with his claim getting approved?

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nah it went through fine, took like 3 weeks but that's normal for Washington ESD

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One thing to watch out for - make sure your former employer reports the separation correctly to Washington ESD. Sometimes companies try to classify automation layoffs as 'voluntary resignation' or something weird to avoid their unemployment tax rates going up.

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How would I know if they reported it wrong? Should I be worried about this?

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You'll find out if Washington ESD contacts you about conflicting information. If there's an issue, it goes into adjudication and you'll need to provide your side of the story.

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This is good advice. Keep your termination paperwork and any emails about the layoff just in case.

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Dude I feel for you. Lost my manufacturing job to robots 3 years ago and it was devastating. But Washington ESD was actually pretty helpful once I got through to them. The hardest part is just dealing with their phone system when you have questions.

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Yeah I'm dreading having to call them if something goes wrong with my claim.

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Someone mentioned that Claimyr service earlier - might be worth trying if you do need to reach them. I wish I'd known about stuff like that when I was dealing with my claim.

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Update: My claim just got approved! Took exactly 10 business days from when I filed. The Washington ESD letter confirms it's regular UI benefits, nothing special about the automation aspect. Weekly benefit amount is $687 which seems right based on my previous wages.

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Congratulations! That's actually pretty fast for Washington ESD approval.

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Great news! Now you can focus on job hunting and maybe looking into those WorkSource programs I mentioned.

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nice! glad it worked out smooth for you

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That's awesome that your claim went through so quickly. For anyone else reading this who might need to contact Washington ESD about automation-related layoffs or any other claim issues, I can't recommend claimyr.com enough. It's been a game-changer for actually getting through to speak with agents instead of sitting on hold for hours.

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How much does something like that cost? I'm barely scraping by while waiting for my benefits.

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It's worth checking out their site for the details. For me, the time saved was worth it since I needed to resolve an adjudication issue quickly.

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Just to clarify for anyone else in similar situations - technological displacement, automation, AI replacement, or any form of job elimination due to efficiency improvements all fall under regular unemployment insurance in Washington state. The key factor is that the separation was involuntary and not due to misconduct.

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But shouldn't there be different benefits for people whose entire industries are being automated away? This feels like a different category entirely.

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While I understand the frustration, Washington ESD administers unemployment insurance as defined by state law. Policy changes would need to come from the legislature, not the agency.

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For what it's worth, I ended up getting into HVAC repair after losing my factory job to automation. Turns out robots can't crawl through attics and basements yet! The transition was rough but WorkSource helped with the training costs.

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That's encouraging. I've been looking at trade programs but wasn't sure if they'd be covered.

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Definitely look into it. They have specific funding for people displaced by technology changes.

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just remember to do your job search requirements every week, Washington ESD is really strict about that stuff now. you need to apply to like 3 jobs per week and keep track of everything

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Yeah I've been logging everything in their system. It's actually not too bad once you get used to it.

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One more tip - if you're looking for work in a field that's being automated, consider looking into roles that work alongside the new technology rather than trying to compete with it. Like maintenance, programming, or oversight positions for the automated systems.

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That's smart thinking. I hadn't considered that angle but it makes sense.

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Excellent advice. The jobs aren't disappearing entirely, they're often just changing into different skill sets.

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This whole thread is depressing but helpful. I work in data entry and I can see the writing on the wall with AI getting better. At least now I know what to expect with Washington ESD if it happens to me.

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Start preparing now if you can. Look into training programs before you need them.

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Agreed - it's easier to transition while you still have income than after you've been laid off.

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